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| josch | minute: thank you! | 08:13 |
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| bremner | I'm wondering whether it is less work to backport patches from linux master (6.16~rc6 ish) to 6.15.6, or to build 6.16~rcX with the reform patches. How hard is it to build linux master for the pocket reform? | 13:12 |
| josch | bremner: depends on your luck. Sometimes, rebasing the patch stack is really easy and sometimes it takes weeks of work. | 13:14 |
| josch | bremner: if you know you can backport the patch easy enough, maybe do that because then you know the pain that you can get instead of a random surprise? :) | 13:14 |
| josch | on the other hand i should be encouraging you to use 6.16~rcX because then you will do the work now and i can avoid doing it later when 6.16 is out :) | 13:15 |
| bremner | I guess I can try backporting the series https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/20250715-pci-port-reset-v6-0-6f9cce94e7bb@oss.qualcomm.com/; I know there are at least two prerequisite patches in 6.16 | 13:15 |
| josch | bremner: since you are using rk3588, you are relying on the collabora patches, so maybe you are lucky and collabora git is already on 6.16rcX? | 13:15 |
| josch | bremner: the collabora patch stack is on 6.16rc1, so maybe no need to backport? | 13:17 |
| josch | bremner: you want the rockchip-devel branch from https://gitlab.collabora.com/hardware-enablement/rockchip-3588/linux | 13:18 |
| bremner | josch: what's the best way to turn that into a debian package? use the upstream build system? | 13:20 |
| josch | bremner: reform-debian-packages README has the answer | 13:21 |
| bremner | ok, thanks. | 13:21 |
| josch | bremner: upstream linux kernel has a makefile target for that | 13:21 |
| josch | i don't remember what it's called but it's in the readme | 13:21 |
| josch | it's maybe makedebpkg or something like that | 13:21 |
| bremner | yes, that much I remembered. I just didn't know if I needed further reform specific package | 13:21 |
| bremner | s/package/patches/ | 13:21 |
| josch | bremner: yes, from the reform-debian-packages repo grab those patches that are *not* from the collabora stack and apply them on top of the 6.16 collabora stack | 13:22 |
| josch | they are numbered 100+ | 13:22 |
| josch | and then the kernel config parameters as usual of course | 13:22 |
| bremner | ah phew, there are not so many extra patches | 13:26 |
| josch | bremner: anymore :) | 13:32 |
| bremner | weird. git am does not detect 1000-v3-pci_dw_rockchip_add_system_pm_support.patch | 13:52 |
| bremner | same for the next patch. ugh. | 13:53 |
| bremner | ah right, missing the "From " line. | 13:55 |
| josch | bremner: vagrantc was fixing these instances -- if you find new malformed patches, please send a MR | 13:57 |
| josch | (or a git-format-patch) | 13:57 |
| bremner | josch: so the expectation is that git am should work? | 13:58 |
| josch | bremner: as far as i'm concerned, yes | 13:59 |
| josch | bremner: i also would like to git-am these patches every once in a while | 13:59 |
| bremner | ookay, I guess I finally need to apply for a gitlab account | 14:00 |
| josch | please do :D | 14:00 |
| josch | bremner: vagrantc did this for 6.12: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/merge_requests/92 | 14:02 |
| josch | maybe we should even have a quick CI check for git-am-able patch headers but maybe this would annoy minute too much when doing the next rebase :D | 14:03 |
| minute | :D | 14:15 |
| minute | josch: btw esther reported that the freezing issue happened actually on the 6.12 kernel | 14:16 |
| minute | josch: (on trixie, but the trixie is kind of downgraded from our old unstable image) | 14:16 |
| josch | minute: yes, the trixie image is what the MNT image used to be because it has reform-tools and kernel from a few months back | 14:18 |
| josch | for example, reform-desktop-full does not depend on gnome in trixie | 14:19 |
| josch | that change was only done after the freeze started | 14:19 |
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| bremner | in case anyone is curious, the 6.15 patches will need some manual work to apply to 6.16. I might ask upstream about 1000-v3-pci_dw_rockchip_add_system_pm_support | 14:42 |
| bremner | unless someone already has done the grunt work. | 14:42 |
| josch | bremner: no, please upstream, thank you! <3 | 14:42 |
| minute | josch: how could esther upgrade to the 6.15 kernel on trixie? | 14:51 |
| minute | josch: is there a recipe? | 14:51 |
| josch | minute: just edit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/reform_trixie.sources and replace trixie with trixie-backports | 15:07 |
| josch | and then apt full-upgrade | 15:07 |
| josch | I'll be able to try out a HDMI monitor again on Friday -- i'll try the latest 6.12 kernel and see if I get the same issues esther has with the latest 6.12 but it's really weird that i haven't seen these problems myself with my rk3588 pocket reform... :/ | 15:09 |
| minute | josch: ah, this is how that works, thanks | 15:13 |
| josch | minute: the detailed docs of how to add the reform.d.n repo are here: https://reform.debian.net/repo/ | 15:20 |
| josch | minute: but since esther already has 'trixie' enabled, switching that config to 'trixie-backports' is just a switch of the repo name :) | 15:20 |
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| bremner | sent a followup to about 10 linux kernel lists. It makes me nervous, but "reply all" seems to be the done thing. | 15:21 |
| josch | bremner: do you have a message-id? | 15:22 |
| bremner | mid:87zfd41eic.fsf@tethera.net | 15:22 |
| josch | thank you! | 15:22 |
| josch | this reminds me that i should also follow-up on the imx8mq cadence patch... the latest version does not work anymore on imx8mq in the reform and we keep rebasing an ancient version because of that... | 15:24 |
| minute | josch: esther has confirmed hdmi is fixed with the backports kernel | 15:29 |
| josch | \o/ | 15:29 |
| josch | wonderful | 15:29 |
| bremner | sweet | 15:30 |
| josch | vagrantc also has trouble with 6.12 on non-dsi rk3588 | 15:30 |
| josch | maybe rk3588 users should just not use it XD | 15:30 |
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| minute | josch: yes | 15:59 |
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| grimmware | bremner: I have been following along on your efforts, thank you for blogging about it :) | 16:52 |
| bremner | welcome. semi-apologies for the stream of conciousness format | 16:52 |
| grimmware | I know where you are if I need to ask questions ;) | 16:53 |
| bremner | fair enough | 16:55 |
| josch | bremner: reading your last post: you know about the "b4" utility? You just give it the email message id and it automaitcally grabs the right patch series from lore.kernel.org in a variety of formats | 17:22 |
| chorc | bremner: I'd like to join in appreciation, your blog saved me some time to have serial output | 17:22 |
| chorc | I'm still getting an occasional brownout, even when charging, I think it's that watchdog, I'm trying to build a version of fw that would report if the reboot was caused by the watchdog, but then I need some constant logging from that serial :) | 17:24 |
| josch | chorc: that (and others) are the reasons i barely get to attach the backplate to my pocket :D | 17:26 |
| bremner | josch: ah, no I did not knw, thanks | 17:27 |
| josch | bremner: thank you too for your "brain dump" -- i really appreciate that style of post because it lets me follow-along other people's 'working style' like looking over their shoulder and i can learn something new (already happened with your posts for me) | 17:28 |
| chorc | i'll join "no backplate" club after the summer, it's not a very practical while in the woods :) | 17:30 |
| josch | i'll leave the "no backplate" club in ~4 weeks when we travel to relatives for several weeks -- until then the pocket can be parked here because i don't need to move it around these days :) | 17:31 |
| chorc | i also have a new toy, picocalc, waiting for me at home; i think I can use it as a logger for that serial port | 17:32 |
| bremner | chorc: good to hear about serial console | 17:34 |
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| grimmware | I've got the rk3588's uart exposed with some dupont cables and a custom side panel (headphone jack side) from when I was fucking around with booting different kernels | 18:58 |
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