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| ch | i have the really bad sus that I implemented the DS20 stuff incorrectly | 18:16 |
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| minute | josch: i'm here with esther and debugging the problem on rk3588 pocket reform it freezes everything when connecting HDMI | 18:29 |
| minute | josch: i then realized it's because she's on your debian stable image and not on the MNT image | 18:30 |
| minute | josch: s/image/kernel | 18:30 |
| minute | josch: everything works fine booting the latest mnt CI image from sd card, hdmi dis/connects cleanly | 18:30 |
| minute | josch: did you test HDMI on the debian stable image on rk3588 pocket? | 18:30 |
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| josch | minute: yes, i am using my rk3588 pocket reform with the stable kernel (6.12) to present my lecture slides at uni and the projector is connected via hdmi | 18:46 |
| josch | minute: if it's the kernel version and if esther wants to keep using debian stable then there is also the kernel 6.15 from trixie-backports | 18:47 |
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| minute | josch: aha, i'll recommend that | 18:49 |
| minute | josch: or actually, i think it was 6.15, did you also test HDMI on that? | 18:52 |
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| josch | no, i did not test with 6.15 | 18:54 |
| bremner | isn't 6.15 the default kernel from MNT repos these days ? | 18:54 |
| josch | yes, it is | 18:55 |
| josch | and the only difference is that one is built in trixie and the other in unstable | 18:55 |
| josch | but there is barely any difference between the two | 18:55 |
| bremner | reasonably sure I tested HDMI on 6.15. Can do again if needed. | 18:55 |
| bremner | I mean I tested on the stock kernel and stock image | 18:55 |
| josch | the script building it is the same as used on MNT gitlab CI | 18:55 |
| josch | bremner: please do, i don't have a hdmi monitor at home, only at work | 18:55 |
| bremner | okie doke. Lemme find the adapter. | 18:56 |
| minute | on the stock mnt image it works fine | 18:56 |
| minute | the question is, does it work on trixie | 18:56 |
| bremner | ah, so no need for me to test | 18:56 |
| minute | esther will cross test with a clean trixie image at home on sd card also | 18:57 |
| minute | good news, looks like the mesa version in debian experimental (25.1.5) is supposed to have a backport of the gpu performance fix by mojyack https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@1ace/114857908512041580 | 18:57 |
| minute | (FF performance etc) | 18:58 |
| josch | wait, are we not building that? one sec... | 18:58 |
| josch | ah no we are explicitly *not* building that | 18:58 |
| minute | josch: you mean mesa? | 18:58 |
| josch | i put a hack into reform-debian-packages to choose unstable for mesa builds | 18:58 |
| josch | because last time we tried the version in experimental failed to build from source | 18:58 |
| josch | that probably changed with the recent upload and we could try again | 18:58 |
| minute | josch: why do we need to custom build mesa currently? | 18:59 |
| ch | in wireshark dump the DS20 descriptor looks correct. then i'm just holding libusb wrong | 19:02 |
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| josch | minute: not in main but in this MR I had to act the hack to make mojyack's patch build: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/merge_requests/117/diffs#d395267389658bbdc3c195b10597b4cad5a98599_41_43 | 19:07 |
| minute | josch: ah alright. so _supposedly_ it's now merged in the mesa from experimental | 19:08 |
| minute | ch: what did i miss here? :D | 19:09 |
| josch | minute: lets assume it is (i can check) would you like to build mesa in experimental for the MNT repos? | 19:09 |
| minute | josch: ah, is this better or easier than just shipping the deb? | 19:10 |
| minute | (probably somehow?) | 19:10 |
| josch | hrm... | 19:10 |
| josch | yes, we could also copypaste the .deb | 19:11 |
| minute | ah :D | 19:11 |
| josch | it just feels jucky :D | 19:11 |
| minute | ok, got it :D | 19:11 |
| minute | i haven't tested it yet so it probably needs some testing (also by me) before we should build+offer it | 19:11 |
| josch | but maybe ch or bremner can come up with a technical reason not to just copypaste the mesa.deb from experimental | 19:11 |
| josch | (i'm busy with family stuff for the next ~2 hours so my brain is not 100% right now) | 19:12 |
| minute | josch: no worries, mine neither | 19:12 |
| minute | i've been working on the t-shirt for the reform next backers | 19:12 |
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| bremner | btw at what CPU temperature should I worry about my rk3588 | 19:28 |
| bremner | compiling the kernel seems to be about 80C | 19:28 |
| bremner | current cooling might be suboptimal as the lid is just laying there | 19:29 |
| bremner | josch: I guess the main problem with copying artifacts (other than trust) is that they get out of date. Pinning is another potential solution, might be more flexible. | 19:37 |
| bremner | (if it works) | 19:38 |
| josch | bremner: i would download the latest version from experimental such they don't get out-of-date. The problem with pinning is, that we cannot (well can but should not) ship apt pinning settings with an apt upgrade | 19:41 |
| grimmware | minute: fyi if you decided to do the MNT logo in some form of sew-on patch (preferably an enormous back patch for battle jackets) I would be very in to that | 19:42 |
| josch | my MNT t-shirt is also already showing signs of age and needs an update | 20:12 |
| josch | grimmware: but i fear we need to back the next campaign to get one XD | 20:12 |
| jfred | seconding the sew-on patch idea haha (and a big one would be fun) | 21:03 |
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| minute | grimmware: nice, ok | 21:27 |
| minute | josch: lmao @ 225% default scale | 21:35 |
| josch | yeah, i tried to disable fractional scaling but failed :( | 21:36 |
| josch | somehow, in contrast to the other settings, that schema override didn't stick as the default | 21:36 |
| josch | maybe there is some special handling of these values similar to how the keyboard shortcuts needed special handling? | 21:37 |
| minute | quite possible | 21:37 |
| josch | and i've looked into the source code where these variables are used but couldn't find anything fishy... but i'm not familiar at all with gnome code | 21:38 |
| minute | i can say that doing this in a live session works: gsettings set org.gnome.mutter experimental-features "['xwayland-native-scaling']" | 21:42 |
| minute | and also gsettings set org.gnome.mutter experimental-features "['scale-monitor-framebuffer']" | 21:43 |
| minute | this immediately changes the UI in the display settings | 21:43 |
| minute | josch: perhaps this override is overridden later? | 21:43 |
| minute | josch: are we sure that the 10_, 20_ order works? | 21:44 |
| minute | oh interesting | 21:45 |
| minute | minute@minute-i9:/usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas$ cat 10_mutter-common.gschema.override | 21:45 |
| minute | [org.gnome.mutter:GNOME] | 21:45 |
| minute | experimental-features=['scale-monitor-framebuffer', 'xwayland-native-scaling'] | 21:45 |
| minute | i wonder what's this `:GNOME]` | 21:45 |
| josch | minute: yes, i can confirm that just running gsettings explicitly does the trick -- i just fail to set the default | 21:46 |
| josch | oh indeed | 21:46 |
| minute | also you could try patching this file (in case the sort order is not what it seems) | 21:46 |
| josch | i didn't see 10_mutter-common.gschema.override before -- i have to look into it | 21:47 |
| josch | minute: great find with the :GNOME -- i'll try that next | 21:50 |
| minute | josch: cool! | 21:51 |
| josch | hahaha funny, it turns out that the scaling default is actually a Debian-ism: https://sources.debian.org/src/mutter/48.4-2/debian/mutter-common.gsettings-override/?hl=2#L2 | 21:54 |
| minute | eek | 21:55 |
| josch | the good news: the new protections against me building custom system images in other branches than main in the reform namespace do work: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/pipelines/4317 | 21:59 |
| minute | josch: yaay, nice! | 22:00 |
| josch | minute: oh.. errm.. could you enable gitlab CI for my reform-system-image fork please? :D https://source.mnt.re/josch/reform-system-image/ | 22:08 |
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| josch | minute: specifically that project only has the x86 mntre-builder runner assigned but it needs the arm64 runner | 22:17 |
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