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| jbmorley_ | Hi folks. Can anyone give me pointers on how to restore a fresh image to my Pocket Reform's RK3588 emmc? | 05:53 |
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| jbmorley_ | I'm assuming there's some magic incantation of the built in tools, but I've not yet found one :). | 05:54 |
| josch | jbmorley_: boot an image from sd-card, connect to the internet and then run: sudo reform-flash-rescue | 06:03 |
| jbmorley_ | Cool, thank you! | 06:04 |
| jbmorley_ | I get a /boot/flash.bin doesn't exist. | 06:06 |
| jbmorley_ | In fact, I think I might have now found myself with an entirely non-booting device. | 06:09 |
| jbmorley_ | So, I guess my next question is, ... how do I recover a device that won't boot off an SD card? 🤦🏻♂️ | 06:12 |
| jbmorley_ | @josch I found this (https://community.mnt.re/t/flashing-emmc-bootloader-unbricking-imx8mp/2287/7). Is this the sort of thing I need to be doing? | 06:50 |
| jbmorley_ | (Though obviously that's for the imx8mp where I have an rk3588 so I guess there are custom tools required?) | 06:53 |
| josch | jbmorley_: if /boot/flash.bin didn't exist then no uboot was flashed and you should still be able to boot from sd-card -- can you confirm? | 07:04 |
| jbmorley_ | If I put an SD card in and power on I just get a blank screen. | 07:07 |
| jbmorley_ | Which is not the behavior I was seeing. I worry that in my flailing around before selecting the correct script I nuked the emmc somehow. | 07:08 |
| + svp (~svp@host-79-7-240-189.business.telecomitalia.it) | 07:43 | |
| jbmorley_ | Are there exact instructions for connecting to the RK3588 for refreshing the emmc in this way? I've followed what I believe are the steps to connect up the system controller USB-C port but I'm not seeing any devices appear in lsusb on my desktop when the pocket reform is connected and powered on. The imx8mp instructions I linked show a small dip switch on the module itself and I've not yet managed to identify anything related. | 07:56 |
| jbmorley_ | related... for the RK3588 board, that is. | 08:08 |
| jbmorley_ | Looking at the iCore-3588Q documentation, I see mention of a 'RECOVERY' button which appears to be on some kind of host board... | 08:12 |
| jbmorley_ | Is this broken out on the MNT carrier board / module? | 08:37 |
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| - casparvitch (QUIT: Ping timeout: 272 seconds) (~casparvit@130.102.176.235) | 09:20 | |
| minute | jbmorley_: did you try just connecting to serial console yet? | 10:24 |
| minute | jbmorley_: maybe uboot is giving you some output? | 10:24 |
| minute | jbmorley_: did you try connecting an hdmi monitor yet? | 10:24 |
| minute | jbmorley_: which image did you use for the microsd card and which command did you use to write it? | 10:26 |
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| + mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 11:16 | |
| ch | josch: if it (reform-grml) works, you'll merge it? :) | 11:33 |
| josch | jbmorley_: if you have an account you might also consider writing about your case in the forum -- in IRC, things are quick to scroll into the backlog and then it's tedious to find all the details you posted for your case. In any case, answering m.inute's questions will be crucial for somebody being able to help you. | 12:05 |
| josch | ch: you are foiling my plans to make you part of the debian-reform team and then you can press the button yourself! :D (button was just pressed, thank you!!) | 12:09 |
| ch | :D | 12:09 |
| ch | thx | 12:10 |
| josch | it's fun to make something work which gets that much attention from its upstream maintainer :) | 12:10 |
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| * Guest2770 -> mjw | 12:30 | |
| bremner | The schematics show J16, but the "serial console" part of the manual talks about J17. The motherboard diagram doesn't say. J17 in the schematics is "hard power down interface". I suppose the schematics are correct here? Just to confirm this is the 6 pins next to the left hinge? | 12:50 |
| bremner | (about pocket reform serial console) | 12:51 |
| bremner | also how are the pins numbered? left to right? right to left? some other way? | 12:51 |
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| + gustav28 (~gustav@c-78-82-54-137.bbcust.telenor.se) | 13:02 | |
| bremner | ok, from the PCB I can confirm J16 and pins numbered left (sysctl) to right | 13:32 |
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| bremner | where should I submit a manual erratum? The pin labels for the UART don't match the PCB on the pocket reform motherboard. The ones on the PCB seem correct | 14:16 |
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| josch | bremner: maybe file an issue or even a MR here? https://source.mnt.re/reform/pocket-reform-handbook/ | 14:42 |
| jbmorley_ | @josch @minute Thanks for the responses. Sorry for the delay; I'm in HST. I'll write up the current state of things in a post on the forum as it sounds like that'll be easier. | 14:44 |
| josch | hst? | 14:45 |
| josch | oh timezone? | 14:45 |
| jbmorley_ | Yup! | 14:48 |
| minute | bremner: the 6 prongs are serial. the pinout is on the silkscreen (quite small). for rk you want the right half of the pins (port 1, unlike port 2 for imx8mplus) | 14:49 |
| josch | hm? manual says that imx8mplus is S1. It says only A311D is S2 | 14:51 |
| bremner | josch: I guess I need a local account for that? | 14:57 |
| josch | bremner: yes and ping m.inute to approve it | 15:01 |
| bremner | ok, not today then... | 15:01 |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Ping timeout: 272 seconds) (~Thunderbi@173.186.16.211) | 15:01 | |
| bremner | I did post on the forum, so that's a start | 15:01 |
| bremner | apropos the forum, should I expect replies to work in mailing list mode? | 15:03 |
| minute | what's mailing list mode? | 15:03 |
| minute | i don't think we set that up | 15:04 |
| bremner | well, I get posts by email, so it's partly working (I enabled it on my account). On the other discourse instance I know (racket), I can reply to those posts via email. Not sure if that needs setup | 15:05 |
| dok | josch: just tried the new flash script for the keyboard4 and seems like my udevadm doesn't have the 'wait' command :/ | 15:06 |
| josch | dok: ah sorry i should add a version check in there | 15:06 |
| dok | nah, it's okay | 15:06 |
| josch | bremner: please try it out -- i also have it set up to send me everything by mail but i have not tried what happens if i reply | 15:07 |
| dok | i've did something like that in the past by only using lsusb in an until loop | 15:07 |
| bremner | josch: ok. I sent a reply (to myself), let's wait a while and see if it shows up at https://community.mnt.re/t/hibernate-on-rk3588/3582 | 15:08 |
| dok | josch: $ until lsusb -d 2e8a:0003; do :; done; | 15:08 |
| dok | but it doesn't wait for udevadm rules to trigger :/ | 15:09 |
| josch | dok: i'll come back to you later, i have the children for the next few hours, sorry | 15:10 |
| dok | josch: no worries, i'll likely not be available later, it's not a big deal tho. (i'll flash manually) | 15:11 |
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| jbmorley_ | @josch @minute Thanks for the encouragement to post on the forum. Here's the details: https://community.mnt.re/t/recovering-a-possibly-bricked-rk3588-pocket-reform/3592 | 15:47 |
| + jogu (~jogu@user/jogu) | 15:49 | |
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| - bkeys (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 16:09 | |
| jfred | I think I need to update some keyboard/sysctl firmware... my Pocket Reform keeps getting into a state where the keyboard thinks it's powered off while it's powered on (so every time I hit a key the OLED display pops up the hint about powering the device on) | 16:12 |
| jfred | ACTION should probably get this thing set up for LVFS firmware updates now that those are a thing | 16:13 |
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| bremner | josch: minute: these looks relevent to email replies: https://meta.discourse.org/t/configure-direct-delivery-incoming-email-for-self-hosted-sites-with-mail-receiver/49487 https://meta.discourse.org/t/set-up-reply-by-email-with-pop3-polling/14003 | 16:27 |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 17:25 | |
| minute | bremner: sorry, no time atm for forum tech stuff | 17:33 |
| minute | jfred: if you install gnome-firmware, that's enough to get sysctl update at least | 17:34 |
| jogu | Hey everyone, been lurking for a while! I recently picked up one of the V4 keyboards and have been working on porting the QMK firmware to it: | 17:42 |
| jogu | https://github.com/joguSD/qmk_firmware/tree/mntre-v4-wip | 17:42 |
| jogu | Standalone keyboard functionality is all functional, but I'm having stability issues with the USB HID -- it just randomly stops updating. | 17:42 |
| jogu | The board itself doesn't freeze, rgb animations & oled still update, inputs to reset the board, etc. still work but reporting to the host just completely dies. | 17:42 |
| jogu | Starting to wonder if it's a hardware issue. Would anyone with a V4 keyboard be interesting in helping test? | 17:42 |
| bremner | minute: ack. is there somewhere I should file an issue? | 17:43 |
| bremner | I can of course just make a forum post | 17:44 |
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| jfred | minute: oh excellent, thank you | 18:05 |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Ping timeout: 268 seconds) (~Thunderbi@66.110.201.50) | 18:21 | |
| bremner | minute: nvm, I see there is a "site feedback" category. | 18:47 |
| minute | josch: latest reform-system-image pipeline on main branch contains only "any" image | 18:56 |
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| minute | jogu: cool, thanks for working on a QMK port! | 19:09 |
| minute | jogu: could you post build instructions to community.mnt.re? my guess is that there'll be more willing testers | 19:09 |
| jfred | minute: Mine was seemingly old enough that I had to do a manual flash before the system controller would show up in gnome-firmware. (The USB IDs changed a while back right? Maybe that's why?) It's detected in gnome-firmware after the update though | 19:30 |
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| jfred | Woohoo, and it charges just fine from a USB-C charger that it had trouble with before! Thanks to everyone who's worked on USB-PD in the sysctl firmware | 19:37 |
| jfred | it's the charger my company has installed at all the desks, so this saves me from having to remember an extra AC adapter if I bring it to work :D | 19:38 |
| jogu | minute: Yep, I can definitely throw a post up with some build instructions. I'll also make a prebuilt u2f available since that will probably be easier for most. | 19:44 |
| jogu | Also did some spelunking through the irc logs and noticed some interest in zmk so I'll see if I can get that working as well. I'm actually hoping to get one of the major firmwares fully integrated with the system controller so it's good evaluate all the options | 19:46 |
| jogu | I tried circuitpython + kmk yesterday and also saw similar USB HID issues: https://github.com/joguSD/mntre_kb_kmk | 19:48 |
| grimmware | Well that looked like it was going to be a really tidy fix… https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/RTAamdpN/1752084245.JPG | 20:04 |
| minute | jogu: interesting | 20:04 |
| grimmware | … and then it wasn’t that tidy https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/5u0k2tx2/1752084269.JPG | 20:04 |
| minute | grimmware: woops! but looks done! | 20:04 |
| minute | jfred: great to hear @ charger | 20:05 |
| grimmware | Yeah, charges again now! | 20:05 |
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| minute | jfred: if you update the keyboard fw, please make sure that you've conneced an external keyboard so that you can retry the flashing immediately, don't turn off/reboot the device until you're sure the internal keyboard is functional | 20:05 |
| minute | jfred: (if there's any trouble during the upload) | 20:06 |
| jfred | yeah, I updated the keyboard fw too and thankfully that all went fine :) | 20:07 |
| grimmware | I am exceptionally pleased to have my little computer friend back in action. | 20:08 |
| jfred | and I didn't run into the issue I had the last time I did that which was that my external keyboard was also an MNT keyboard and at the time the flashing script got confused | 20:08 |
| jfred | grimmware: I like the description of it as a little computer friend haha | 20:09 |
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| minute | jfred: ok great | 20:15 |
| grimmware | jfred: it's a very accurate description! | 20:24 |
| minute | josch: as mnt.re/system-image is still pointing to the any-only build, i'll rerun the pipeline | 20:27 |
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| - bkeys (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~Thunderbi@173.186.16.211) | 21:05 | |
| ch | josch: its also good to see actual users, even more so when they (like you) redistribute the build result | 21:52 |
| ch | josch: so...thank you! | 21:53 |
| chorc | josch: I'm trying to build some patched packages on my build box, it fails on https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/blob/main/build_patched.sh?ref_type=heads#L87 saying Unknown option: date | 21:56 |
| chorc | is it some newer version of dch? I have a vanilla bookworm there... | 21:56 |
| ch | yeah, new in trixie | 22:00 |
| chorc | ch: thanks, I'll upgrade my build box | 22:01 |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@h211.16.186.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) | 22:02 | |
| josch | minute: sorry, this should've been the last time that this has happened: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/commit/5813e80aee6f667ba57644e9718f9acc525e10b0 | 22:03 |
| chorc | works like a charm on trixie, such a great works by you guys maintaining all that handy tooling | 22:12 |
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| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a3f:9300:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 22:31 | |
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