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| grimmware | josch: I've just bought the same batteries that you got :) | 12:36 |
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| grimmware | josch: did you balance yours externally before putting them in? | 12:36 |
| grimmware | I'm really looking forward to having this upgrade, the pocket's going to be an absolute powerhouse | 12:37 |
| josch | grimmware: no, when they arrived their voltage was about the same | 12:37 |
| grimmware | I'll have had my pocket for a year in about 2 weeks. I think I'll write a blog post about it because it's really not the same computer it was when it turned up. | 12:40 |
| josch | minute: stable linux v6.15.5 now includes this commit: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/commit/?id=9a0156fa088904dfb0956d114b6d20eedaae1aba | 12:50 |
| josch | minute: this conflicts with this patch of yours: rk3588-mnt-reform2/2000-drm-bridge-sn65dsi86-enable-HPD-functionality-for-eD.patch | 12:50 |
| josch | minute: can you rewrite that patch or confirm that your patch is now obsolete? | 12:50 |
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| chorc | I'm looking into an issue why OS always reports battery as "charging", even if it's at 100%, I think it never enters this else if https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/blob/main/lpc/reform2_lpc.c?ref_type=heads#L449 | 13:24 |
| chorc | is there a way to listen in on SPI talk between the driver and firmware, or I have to build a custom driver with bunch of printfs? | 13:25 |
| chorc | (sorry, I'm a newbie in OS/embedding space, been programming databases my whole life) | 13:25 |
| Zaba | you can probe it with a logic analyzer if you can physically reach the signals somehow | 13:26 |
| Zaba | but you can also probably just add some debug prints into the driver in this case | 13:27 |
| chorc | Zaba: thanks, I think building a driver will be easier for me | 13:28 |
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| minute | josch: why would it be obsolete? | 14:09 |
| minute | josch: oh ok, should have read the other patch before writing :D | 14:09 |
| minute | josch: hmm, it relies on DRM_MODE_CONNECTOR_DisplayPort | 14:10 |
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| josch | minute: indeed and as I have no clue what is going on I need you or somebody else who does have a clue to decide what to do with this. As it is right now, the reform-debian-packages pipeline will fail to build because of this until the situation is resolved. | 14:35 |
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| minute | josch: ok, will do that later | 14:57 |
| minute | josch: another issue: on classic reform, display scale in gnome defaults to 125%. this is quite bad :D | 14:57 |
| josch | it does? have i maybe thought that how it looks like is "normal"? | 15:01 |
| josch | as in, it looks like this for me on the rk3588 classic reform: https://reform.debian.net/Pics/gnome.png | 15:02 |
| josch | should it look different? | 15:02 |
| josch | uuuuh MNT orders are shipping again! \o/ | 15:04 |
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| bkeys | I'm on a train coming back from my vacation, I'll try A311D on my board either this afternoon or tomorrow | 15:29 |
| mhoye | minute: re usb_giveback_urb_bh - all I've got from lsusb is the builtin keyboard and trackball, but I think I've only updated the keyboard once ever and the trackball never. | 15:49 |
| mhoye | I'm happy to try updating them to latest, but also would like to know if there's any state or diagnostics that I could capture here that would help. | 15:50 |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Ping timeout: 276 seconds) (~Thunderbi@ip-185-104-139-74.ptr.icomera.net) | 15:52 | |
| mhoye | Unrelated: has anyone found a low-profile barrel jack? | 15:54 |
| minute | josch: looks scaled up yeah | 15:55 |
| minute | josch: check settings -> display | 15:55 |
| minute | mhoye: sorry, by now i don't remember what this discussion was about | 15:55 |
| josch | mhoye: maybe we should start using the MNT issue tracker more | 15:56 |
| josch | mhoye: i also remember some usb problems in dmesg that you've talked about but I would have to search my logs to remember what this was... | 15:56 |
| josch | minute: confirmed, default scale is at 125% on rk3588 classic reform. Should it be different? Do you have an idea what is setting this? | 15:58 |
| minute | josch: it should be 100%. scaling to 125% will just make everything unnecessarily slow | 16:02 |
| josch | okay, i'll see if i can figure out why it's 125% | 16:02 |
| minute | josch: i think gnome has a formula to calculate the DPI from the panel size and they have some target DPI | 16:02 |
| minute | josch: i think we should disable fractional scaling by default | 16:02 |
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| josch | or that :) | 16:03 |
| josch | would be an update to the schema defaults | 16:03 |
| minute | i wonder if i enabled it at some point as a default? | 16:04 |
| josch | i think i remember you having talked about why fractional scaling is bad -- that depending on the scaling factor it literally slows down rendering | 16:04 |
| josch | minute: we could ship a ~/.config/monitors.xml containing <scale>1</scale> for the classic reform and pocket monitor | 16:09 |
| josch | apparently this is not done via gsettings schemas because the setting is per monitor and not per user | 16:09 |
| minute | josch: yeah that would just be a bandaid, i think it's better to disable fractional scaling by default and if someone needs it, they can turn it on | 16:10 |
| josch | i have yet to figure out how to disable fractional scaling | 16:10 |
| josch | it used to be an experimental feature and then you just turned off the experimental features... still searching... | 16:10 |
| josch | found it | 16:16 |
| josch | now i can only choose between 100% and 200% | 16:17 |
| josch | minute: and now things are faster? | 16:18 |
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| minute | josch: should be | 16:36 |
| josch | well, i believe you :D pipeline is running, lets see if the change does what it should... | 16:36 |
| ch | josch: did you get to look at the latest changes in https://salsa.debian.org/reform-team/reform-grml/-/merge_requests/1 ? | 16:56 |
| josch | ch: thank you for the ping, good timing! i'm currently flashing sd-cards :) | 16:56 |
| ch | :) | 16:56 |
| ch | its possible i got the extlinux.conf path wrong, maybe you want to doublecheck before flashing a card | 16:57 |
| josch | minute: so i tried this but it's not working -- the list is not empty despite that setting. I have to look into it leater unless you beat me to it: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/merge_requests/131 | 17:03 |
| minute | josch: the list shouldn't be empty, just only have integer multiples | 17:09 |
| minute | josch: i.e. 100%, 200% etc | 17:09 |
| josch | but the list contains strings before | 17:09 |
| josch | as the comment above it says | 17:09 |
| josch | if i manually use gsettings to make this an empty list, then in gnome display settings i only get 100% and 200% shown | 17:10 |
| minute | josch: ahhh sorry, i thought you meant in the display scaling GUI ;D | 17:10 |
| minute | josch: ok, got it | 17:10 |
| minute | josch: hmm @ xwayland-native-scaling | 17:10 |
| minute | josch: xwayland-native-scaling sounds ok to have | 17:10 |
| josch | okay, let me amend my MR | 17:10 |
| minute | scale-monitor-framebuffer sounds not good yeah | 17:11 |
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| josch | ch: did you try running the script locally? It leaves tons of zombie processes (gzip, dpkg-reconfigure) | 17:46 |
| ch | let me run it, maybe something broke since i last tried | 17:47 |
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| josch | ch: i suspect i found what went wrong -- i'm currently trying it again with this change: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/d398772b/ | 17:55 |
| ch | that looks broken | 17:55 |
| josch | in what way? | 17:56 |
| ch | shouldnt --format ... go before < ? | 17:56 |
| josch | no, shell allows a redirect to be anywhere -- including in front of the command | 17:56 |
| ch | sigh, shell | 17:56 |
| josch | :D | 17:56 |
| ch | not sure why dpkg-reconfigure/gzip are zombies though | 17:56 |
| josch | no time to investigate that -- mmdebstrap should clean them up | 17:57 |
| ch | that seems to work, i'll push it | 18:03 |
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| josch | ch: it doesn't boot but i do not see what wrong by staring at the extlinux.conf | 18:16 |
| josch | i have to inspect via serial | 18:16 |
| ch | :/ | 18:17 |
| josch | wait what? where did the serial pins go? | 18:18 |
| bremner | j17? | 18:19 |
| josch | bremner: not pocket reform but motherboard 3.0 | 18:19 |
| bremner | oic | 18:19 |
| ch | i thought they are on the usbc? | 18:20 |
| ch | :) | 18:20 |
| josch | oh no... | 18:20 |
| josch | "Since version 3.0, the MNT Reform motherboard has an integrated USB-to-UART chip that makes one of two serial ports of the main processor (and optionally a serial port to the system controller) available on the USB-C power delivery connector." | 18:20 |
| josch | well, now i just have to find a cable :D | 18:21 |
| josch | ch: i don't have a cable at hand -- i'll can only test tomorrow or so, sorry | 18:26 |
| ch | np | 18:26 |
| josch | the pocket reform was the first device i owned with built-in usb-c -- i yet have to have the cabling everywhere XD | 18:27 |
| ch | no usbc cable from a charger that you can plug into pocket + classic? :) | 18:28 |
| bremner | josch: I guess the only downside is if you need the serial console and to bypass the charger at the same time | 18:29 |
| bremner | other than your problem ;) | 18:29 |
| josch | ch: the usbc cable from my charger has usb-c at *both* ends, so i cannot plug it into my A311D classic reform :( | 18:30 |
| ch | oh, i thought its usbc on that side too | 18:30 |
| bremner | you can never have too many cables | 18:31 |
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| ch | if you ask me, apt forgets to waitpid on dpkg-preconfigure | 18:44 |
| ch | and the locales postinst forgets to waitpid on gzip | 18:44 |
| ch | not sure where the sleep zombies come from | 18:44 |
| ^alex | missing /dev/bed | 18:46 |
| ^alex | ;) | 18:46 |
| ch | :) | 18:46 |
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| mhoye | josch: actually filing an issue if you have an issue! What a wild idea. | 18:59 |
| mhoye | Yeah, I should do that. | 18:59 |
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