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| minute | chorc: the tiny amount of clipping/phasing is known to me, but only a small number of people have noticed so far | 02:18 |
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| minute | chorc: haven't figured it out yet, could be sth with the I2S clocking | 02:18 |
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| chorc | minute: thanks, noted | 06:07 |
| josch | note to self: MRs do not get merged automatically if they are still marked as "draft"... m( | 09:09 |
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| ch | josch: big refactor triggered by your builds, still doesnt do all thats necessary - https://github.com/grml/grml-live/pull/396 | 13:09 |
| josch | ch: holy moly you have been busy! | 13:10 |
| josch | ch: can you give me a summary of what i have to change in my reform-grml build script once you have that merged? :D | 13:11 |
| ch | josch: yes i will. i also intend to land extlinux.conf upstream | 13:17 |
| josch | 👍 | 13:20 |
| bremner | josch: what do I have to run manually to have that uboot log level config take effect? I have the file but I guess I need to do something like regenerate the initrd, but for uboot? | 13:20 |
| josch | bremner: normally, reform-tools will trigger the initramfs postinst which will also run flash-kernel | 13:21 |
| josch | if that somehow did not happen, you can run "sudo flash-kernel" manually and it will rebuild your /boot/boot.scr | 13:21 |
| bremner | ok, thanks. | 13:21 |
| josch | bremner: unless you are using u-boot-menu? Do you have a file /boot/extlinux/extlinux.conf? | 13:21 |
| bremner | nope | 13:22 |
| josch | bremner: you could also check in your /var/log/apt/history.log whether flash-kernel was run after you upgraded reform-tools. It should. If it did not, then that's a bug I should fix. | 13:22 |
| josch | okay, if you don't have extlinux.conf, only boot.scr is relevant for you | 13:22 |
| bremner | well, the config file wasn't installed, so it wouldn't have helped if flash-kernel was run | 13:23 |
| josch | you can inspect the final boot.scr with a text editor but you cannot make any changes in that file manually (there is a binary checksum at the beginning) | 13:23 |
| josch | ah right you need to clean up from my botched postinst | 13:23 |
| bremner | I'm sure you already thought of this and rejected it, but couldn't tuigreet just drop the config file in? | 13:23 |
| josch | bremner: i rejected it because "too deep into the freeze" | 13:24 |
| josch | but yes, it could | 13:24 |
| bremner | ah. grmbl. | 13:24 |
| bremner | personally I'm a bit annoyed that unstable suffers from the freeze, but oh well. | 13:24 |
| bremner | I understand there are tradeoffs | 13:24 |
| josch | yes, it's always like that :/ in reform.debian.net and the MNT repo we are using packages from experimental | 13:25 |
| josch | for example the recent reform-tools is only in experimental -- i cannot upload to unstable until trixie is released :) | 13:25 |
| josch | and once trixie is released i need to undo all the experimental sources lists in my CI scripts :D | 13:26 |
| josch | but you know what, let me at least file a bug against tuigreet with a patch -- otherwise this gets lost... | 13:27 |
| josch | does somebody happen to know if there is a similar "drop file with config somewhere" mechanism for grub so that we can add loglevel=3 also for grub users? | 13:28 |
| bremner | uh, I think so, /etc/grub.d ? | 13:28 |
| josch | indeed -- i'll get inspired by the other packages dropping files there, thank you | 13:29 |
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| bremner | josch: since you were curious about consfigurator, here's my updated host definition: https://paste.debian.net/1384295 | 13:46 |
| bremner | lots of custom stuff, but the "(on-change ...)" call is all standard. | 13:46 |
| josch | bremner: thanks! Are you maybe missing apt pinning? | 13:47 |
| bremner | for the mntre.sources stuff? Could be, I just copied the files from the shipped image | 13:48 |
| josch | The MNT repositories rebuild packages in unstable (now temporarily experimental) and append a +reformXXX to the version, so they sort as higher than the versions in unstable (experimenta) -- except when a new upload happens and then there is a short time window after the upload and before the gitlab CI rebuilds with the new version where you might accidentally upgrade to the version in unstable | 13:48 |
| josch | (experimental) instead of using the MNT repo | 13:48 |
| josch | bremner: it's in /etc/apt/preferences.d/reform.pref | 13:49 |
| bremner | looking | 13:49 |
| bremner | right I have the file, but it's not managed. | 13:50 |
| bremner | OK, added (file:host-data-uploaded "/etc/apt/preferences.d/reform.pref"), thanks | 13:54 |
| josch | aaaand another screw was found rolling around on my bottom acrylic... | 14:57 |
| josch | one of these days i take this thing apart and fix *everything* with loctite... | 14:58 |
| [tj] | the captive screws in other laptops are very nice | 14:58 |
| josch | what are captive screws? | 14:59 |
| [tj] | screws which can be unscrewed to release, but not removed | 14:59 |
| [tj] | they are stuck to part of the case | 14:59 |
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| josch | but with that kind of screw, how would i ever completely remove parts? | 15:00 |
| [tj] | on my framework its attached to the bottom panel, but it bonds to the body | 15:00 |
| josch | bremner: i found out how to do it: to change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT you need to drop a file into /etc/default/grub.d/ not into /etc/grub.d :D | 15:04 |
| josch | bremner: the awkward moment when you find out that your name is actually in the Maintainer of the package you are about to file a MR for XD | 15:06 |
| josch | in my defense, the last time i touched tuigreet packaging was in january ;) | 15:07 |
| bremner | heh. "maintainer" | 15:14 |
| josch | exactly XD | 15:15 |
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| bremner | josch: I had the (apparently wrong?) impression that /etc/default was deprecated now | 15:19 |
| bremner | in some informal way | 15:19 |
| josch | i haven't heard of that | 15:20 |
| josch | i have heard that /etc was deprecated now and we should install files into /usr | 15:20 |
| josch | but grub doesn't seem to have support for /usr/grub/conf.d or similar | 15:21 |
| bremner | hrm. yeah, the /usr thing is driven by systemd and other "modern" things. | 15:21 |
| bremner | anyway, grub will always be special | 15:21 |
| josch | flash-kernel and u-boot-menu support these snippets in /usr/share | 15:22 |
| josch | i think it's nice because it allows me as the maintainer to change the contents of these files without having to worry that the user might've edited them in the meantime | 15:22 |
| bremner | yes, it's much simpler than all of Debian's "conffile" machinery, in hindsight | 15:22 |
| josch | grimmware: my Si3N4 arrived and it works perfectly in the pocket out-of-the-box o0 | 15:43 |
| josch | i got it from the same ebay seller that you recommended | 15:43 |
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| noam | Is there an ETA on mobo 3? :) | 18:03 |
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| vagrantc | so, in good news, i've managed to get 6.12.35 working on guix :) ... although in bad news 6.12.33 from reform.debian.net does not appear to boot ok on rk3588 ... :/ | 18:33 |
| vagrantc | are the 6.15.x patches working reasonably well on rk3588? i might try getting that working on guix ... | 18:34 |
| bremner | vagrantc: I'm running the 6.15 kernel from mntre.com/reform-debian-repo. It seems to work, although I'm not using it as a daily driver | 18:38 |
| bremner | (on rk3588) | 18:38 |
| vagrantc | i can only get 6.12.x working by using an old patchset and reverting a few upstream commits (which ostensibly look to be newer versions of the same patches, so bodes well long-term, at least) | 18:50 |
| bremner | as someone who hates quilt, I was kindof traumatized by the build process ;) | 18:52 |
| bremner | I'm back to running the mnt stock kernel now | 18:52 |
| vagrantc | i did at one point dgit-ify the patchsets | 18:54 |
| vagrantc | but of course going back and forth is ... tricky. | 18:54 |
| bremner | yeah. I imagined there was a reason for the current process | 18:54 |
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| josch | organic growth | 19:35 |
| josch | vagrantc: I also had success with converting the patch stack into a format that dgit likes but i've not come much farther than that yet. But I think not much is missing. I "just" need to set up a git server somewhere using dgit-infrastructure and dgit-repos-server but I have not done that yet so any help is welcome. :) | 19:38 |
| josch | For example, I cannot set up a new git server on MNT machines but I also think that a dgit workflow makes much more sense closer to Debian and I can absolutely turn reform.d.n into a dgit repo server for example. | 19:39 |
| josch | The original reform-debian-packages setup using a patch stack evolved from something that helmut wrote here: https://salsa.debian.org/helmutg/dpkg-root-demo/-/blob/master/update.sh | 19:41 |
| josch | That's why helmut's name is still at the very top of https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/blob/main/build_patched.sh?ref_type=heads | 19:41 |
| josch | bremner, vagrantc: I can easily add you to the reform-team on salsa and I gladly merge any ideas you have regarding dgitifying the work flow | 19:43 |
| josch | vagrantc: linux 6.12.35 is in unstable so soon I'll have a patch stack for you which will have RK3588 working on 6.12 | 19:45 |
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| vagrantc | josch: sorry i have not been more help with that, just whining a bit here and there :/ ... but thanks! :) | 22:11 |
| bremner | josch: probably premature to add me to the team before I submit an MR | 22:13 |
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| bremner | actually I don't really know what being added to the team means | 22:16 |
| vagrantc | probably just gives you the ability to break things more easily | 22:17 |
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| bremner | ACTION nmus tuigreet, on a dare from vagrantc | 22:18 |
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| vagrantc | ACTION wanders off before the pitchforks and torches arrive | 22:36 |
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| josch | bremner: and you expect vengence from the maintainer who forgot that they were listed in the maintainer field? ;) | 23:02 |
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