2025-07-02.log

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minuteyoooo12:27
josch_o/12:30
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ch*wave*12:42
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grimmwarehttps://chaos.social/@grimmware/114783721721059424 my trackball is in use today, it has a lot of MNT lineage by virtue of having been designed in openSCAD on my pocket and having inherited the keyswitches14:54
grimmwareI am almost certainly going to end up looking at the pocket's firmware to replicate the scroll-button implementation14:55
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minutegrimmware: awesome :D16:23
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grimmwareminute: remember what I was saying about the lifted thermistor that I’d repaired before due to the loose battery… well it’s gone to make its own way in the world. Which is surprising because I drowned it in superglue after repairing it. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/R6lVMAu1/1751467024.JPG16:38
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grimmwareThis would explain why my battery didn’t charge last night and I keep getting brownouts.16:39
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grimmwareminute: does https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/365143453706 look like a drop-in replacement for the thermistor to you? (NCU18XH103F60RB)17:43
grimmwareI'm lucky that it's only the ground plane that's lifted17:44
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mhoyegrimmware: Digikey over ebay, every time18:08
mhoyehttps://www.digikey.co.uk/en/products/detail/murata-electronics/NCU18XH103F60RB/736302318:09
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joschmhoye: how do you avoid the steep shipping cost?18:58
bremnerorder enough toys ;)18:59
bremner(I recently ordered about EUR70 worth of cables for exactly this reason)19:02
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joschhaha okay indeed :)19:13
joschmostly i'm like "i need this small resistor for half a cent" and there is no shop in my city selling it... m.inute suggested https://www.segor.de which works most of the time19:14
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grimmwareyeah I always go to ebay first when I need a small quantity relatively soon19:18
grimmwareI ordered that part because it looks to be roughly correct and worst comes to the worst I'll just have to desolder it again, didn't want to lose a day on ordering it19:19
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chorcHello, I've noticed that updated reform-tools with shutdown fix is not showing up in apt update, is it safe to install?20:04
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joschchorc: if it does not show up in apt update how do you install it?22:43
joschchorc: what do you see for apt-cache policy reform-tools22:43
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chorcjosch: it shows 1.74-1+reform20250622T103710Z+1 version coming from https://mntre.com/reform-debian-repo23:24
chorcI thought I could add like an experimental source and apt -t experimental install that package23:27
chorcbut maybe I'm about to shoot myself in the foot here, there might be a reason it's not yet on MNT reform-debian-repo23:27
joschchorc: indeed, we need a new build23:29
joschunfortunately it's already 29 past the our23:29
josch*hour23:29
joschso the build i schedule now will only be in the repos in 1.5 hours23:29
joschthe last build was 3 days ago and that was before the 1.75 release and that's why it doesn't show up23:30
chorcno worries, I could wait, it's pretty boring here in the woods after 23:00 :-)23:30
joschchorc: do you happen to be a tuigreet user and are annoyed by the kernel messages destroying your login interface?23:31
joschyou are in the woods right now? i'm jealous -- probably muuuuch colder than in the city where i'm at XD23:31
chorcI'm not a tuigreet user, but I hate GDM, good thing I don't have to look it at it for more than 3 seconds :)23:32
joschokay!23:33
chorcit is cold(er) here, yep, but it was the hottest day today in Czech Republic, I felt it as well23:35
joschuff :/23:35
chorcBTW I was complaining here about external display issues https://community.mnt.re/t/full-system-freeze-when-plugging-in-an-extermal-monitor/3566/2 looks like a lot of goes away if I configure output explicitly for Sway, not relying on automatic config23:40
chorclike the output mode is exactly the same as Sway was showing before, but it works much better for some reason23:40
joschchorc: you have an rk3588 pocket reform?23:41
chorcjosch: yep23:41
joschthank you23:41
chorcnp23:41
joschvagrantc: have you investigated #1102690 more than what is in the bug? Otherwise I'll give it another go in the next few days23:45
chorcnope, I spoke too soon, blinking is back, and it's solved by just running a terminal alongside Firefox, how strange is that!23:46

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