2025-06-03.log

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Zabayou would usually probably just crimp a JST connector onto the wires coming out of the battery 00:24
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joschZaba: unfortunately the wires coming out of the battery are way too thick for the jst ph crimp bits00:49
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[tj]the difference between these two products in the store isn't clear to me:09:58
[tj]https://shop.mntre.com/products/mnt-pocket-reform-upgrade-bundle09:58
[tj]https://shop.mntre.com/products/mnt-reform-rcore-rk3588-processor-module09:58
[tj]ah I see one i sthe pocket and one is the mnt reform09:59
[tj]its like trying to search for the unversioned version of something and only getting thing2 results10:00
minute[tj]: the reform one has a huge heatsink, and hdmi adapter (but we have to change that now as that adapter is no longer necessary with rcore r2)10:16
[tj]maybe adding pictures to both products of the intended laptop would make it clearer which is which10:17
minute[tj]: thx, will pass this feedback along10:18
grimmwareany inclination as to when rcore2 makes it to the store?11:02
[tj]minute: have you used jtag for linux kernel debugging at any point in the mntre project?11:23
[tj]I'm trying to figure out if I should document jtag kernel debugging for a freebsd thing, but there are a lot of people who will suggest it based on their vibes rather than experience11:23
minute[tj]: nope, only gdb over network 11:25
minutegrimmware: very very soon 11:25
grimmware:o11:26
[tj]ta, I have been forced to learn a lot about console drivers this last month11:26
grimmwaresorry, typo, that undercommunicated my surprise11:26
grimmware:O11:26
[tj]:D11:26
grimmware[tj]: if you were to document that I would read it simply out of interest11:33
[tj]that is a good idea11:35
[tj]I hope one day I figure out how to close issues in addition to creating them11:35
grimmwareI realised very recently that I get paid to cause (find) problems, not to solve them11:37
grimmwareI vaguely speculate on how you might solve them and then other people get to do the fun bit :(11:37
grimmwarealthough we did have a work hackathon recently in which I yolo'd together a graph database to visualize process tree information ingested from the eBPF-based execve telemetry I wrote ages ago which is great and all but reconstructing graphs in Splunk is bullshit11:38
grimmwareI doubt I will be the one who gets to productionize it tho "P11:38
grimmware:P11:38
grimmwareminute: the other thing I was curious about by the way was the keycaps for the pocket - these are no longer stocked. Are the 3d model files available for these? I had a brief look but I may have been looking in the wrong place11:43
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minutegrimmware: tomorrow we have a meeting about restocking keycaps, those as well13:35
grimmwareSweet. And are .stl files (or similar) available?13:37
joschgrimmware: maybe ./pocket-reform-keyboard-kailh-ortho/3d-models/Kailh_keycap-switch_system_1x1.step_13:42
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grimmwareI think I checked that already and it's a model of the keyswitch and a keycap that's not the same as the one the pocket uses15:11
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joschah kk15:36
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bkeysI got my rk3588 upgrade just now!20:39
bkeysI gotta charge my Reform up, then I'll go ahead and install it and see about EDK220:39
bkeysminute, josch: Is there a more up to date image, or is the one from this blog post still the best one to try out?20:40
bkeyshttps://community.mnt.re/t/edk2-uefi-boot-on-rk3588-powered-mnt-reform-2/274520:40
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bkeysOkay, I'm trying to plug the display cable into the adapter board but the cable needs about another inch21:21
minutebkeys: eeek... cable too short?21:52
minutebkeys: but shouldn't be an inch... maybe there's some extra cable length in the display?21:53
minutethird m.2 slot for pocket reform https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/11462117328866899121:53
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joschbkeys: which one is "the one from this blog post"?22:05
joschbkeys: the latest one is this: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/jobs/1071522:05
joschwhich you should also get by following the redirect on https://mnt.re/system-image22:06
bkeysminute: I really had to squeeze it, but it works and it's booted up properly now22:06
bkeysIt booted Linux from emmc just fine, but now I want to try to get edk2 on there22:06
joschminute: do you want to add a new tag to the system image now that you named it v5 and put it on this new batch of classic reform? or do you want to wait for the sysctl/lpc fix to land?22:06
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minutejosch: oh yeah22:27
minutejosch: made a tag and forgot that tags made in the gitlab interface are not signed (?)22:29
bkeysminute: Which EDK2 image did you test on the rk3588?22:30
bkeysAIO one22:32
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