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| grimmware | minute: yeah it would get stuck at the spinner for me too. I wonder if box64 has had some bug fix for this | 00:23 |
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| bkeys | My RK3588 is coming Tuesday UPS says | 02:21 |
| abortretryfail | vagrantc, if the OLED is stuck on the battery display and won't respond to the circle key, that's probably the keyboard getting stuck, not LPC. | 02:33 |
| abortretryfail | idk if kb 3.x has the reset button in the same place, but on mine i can hit the tact switch with the edge of a credit card slid up under the bezel. | 02:34 |
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| midfavila | hey, quick question, is there any plan to bring back the MNT CM4 adapter and the webcam? or are those permanently out of production? | 04:59 |
| midfavila | understandble if so given the other projects | 04:59 |
| midfavila | understandable even | 04:59 |
| spew | midfavila: you can get them on mouser | 05:06 |
| spew | https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/MNT-Research/MREFACAM10R01?qs=QpmGXVUTftF1GfhNirMpQQ%3D%3D | 05:06 |
| spew | I leave the other item as an exercise for the reader | 05:06 |
| midfavila | ohhhhhhhh | 05:07 |
| midfavila | you know what now that you mention it i'm getting deja vu | 05:07 |
| midfavila | if i already asked it prior i apologise lol | 05:07 |
| midfavila | tysm!!! | 05:07 |
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| josch | bkeys: rk3588 upgrade? | 07:13 |
| josch | minute: i'm currently in the process of selecting the SSD for the rk3588 classic reform. Since I also want to be able to swap with the future Reform Next, I'm looking for a 2242 sized drive. Do you have any brand that you know has not received much/any testing yet? I'm between corsair, transcend, samsung and have their lowest power ssds listed right now. | 07:39 |
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| minute | josch: haven't done intensive tests yet, so choosing one that i don't have would be more interesting :D | 11:44 |
| minute | 2230 could also be interesting (steam deck etc) | 11:45 |
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| josch | minute: yes, that's what i'd like to know. I want to choose one that you don't have. :) | 11:58 |
| josch | i was looking at 2242 sized drives because that size was listed on the reform next campaign page | 11:59 |
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| minute | josch: yeah. i only recently realized that there is another common form factor that's even smaller | 12:52 |
| minute | josch: the one i have is KingSpec | 12:57 |
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| josch | minute: right but if i'm reading the motherboard 3.0 schematics correctly, it only supports 2280, 2260 and 2242, no? | 13:45 |
| abortretryfail | My Reform has a SSD out of a Steam Deck. I got an adapter now but for years it was just held in with a strip of kapton tape | 13:56 |
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| andreas-e | Hello! With "apt-get update", I currently get this: | 15:57 |
| andreas-e | E: Repository 'https://reform.debian.net/debian bookworm InRelease' changed its 'Origin' value from '' to 'reform.debian.net' | 15:57 |
| andreas-e | E: Repository 'https://reform.debian.net/debian bookworm InRelease' changed its 'Label' value from 'bookworm' to 'reform.debian.net' | 15:57 |
| andreas-e | N: Repository 'https://reform.debian.net/debian bookworm InRelease' changed its 'Suite' value from '' to 'bookworm' | 15:57 |
| andreas-e | N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details. | 15:57 |
| andreas-e | What do I need to do? "man apt-secure" is not helpful at all. | 15:58 |
| josch | andreas-e: hi, sorry for the inconvenience this change caused. I have written about it here: https://community.mnt.re/t/mnt-debian-repository-changed-its-origin-value-from-to-mnt-research/3433 | 15:58 |
| josch | andreas-e: long story short: this change is intentional | 15:59 |
| josch | apt warns you in case it was not | 15:59 |
| josch | since the change was intentional you can safely accept this change and continue | 15:59 |
| andreas-e | I assumed it was intentional. | 15:59 |
| andreas-e | But "apt-get" does not allow me to accept it. It just says I have to accept, but does not tell me how. I will try with "apt" instead, as your blog post suggests. | 16:00 |
| andreas-e | "apt update" did work, thanks! | 16:05 |
| josch | oh funky | 16:09 |
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| minute | josch: ah yeah i thought you were using some kind of adapter anyway | 17:27 |
| minute | josch: the reform mortherboard has holes, but no soldered threads for those shorter ssds | 17:28 |
| josch | minute: oooh now i see why you thought i already had an adapter. Okay, there seems to be even more choices with the 2230 form factor compared to 2242. If you have KingSpec I'll try to find one that is relatively popular and get that. | 19:14 |
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| minute | hmm, the WIP pocket sysctl fw freezes for me after poweroff :0 this will be fun to investigate | 21:02 |
| minute | but, rcore r2 pcie/usb wifi/bt solution works very nicely | 21:03 |
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| josch | i had my pocket keyboard stay lit even after power off -- is that the same problem? | 22:22 |
| josch | in contrast to classic reform the keyboard oled does not seem to show the on/off status of the system, right? | 22:22 |
| josch | since the quectel modem works so nicely, i'm very much looking forward to you offering the wifi/bt solution for the pocket in the MNT shop :) | 22:23 |
| zeha | josch: there should be an "On" / "Off" text in the oled somewhere (maybe battery status) | 22:24 |
| josch | ah indeed it's in battery status not in system status | 22:24 |
| josch | that being said, i'm afraid i have to announce that i'll have to take a bit of a break from my reform related debian work, unfortunately | 22:26 |
| zeha | i'm also more on a break at the moment, sorry | 22:27 |
| josch | zeha: oh no, i hope all is well! | 22:30 |
| zeha | yes, "just" ENOTIME | 22:31 |
| zeha | hope you're doing well too | 22:32 |
| josch | ah okay, that's good | 22:32 |
| josch | yes, yes ENOTIME here as well and i blame the rk3588 | 22:32 |
| josch | look here: https://mister-muffin.de/p/E3f-.png | 22:32 |
| josch | 60 fps and barely breaking a sweat! https://mister-muffin.de/p/HEmA.png | 22:32 |
| zeha | hahaha | 22:32 |
| josch | :D | 22:32 |
| zeha | i also love the 0% battery icon | 22:32 |
| zeha | ;( | 22:32 |
| josch | not for too long :) | 22:33 |
| josch | i also have two 8200 mAh cells here that wait to be soldered and tested once the fixed board is here :) | 22:33 |
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| minute | josch: ahaha @ factorio | 23:41 |
| minute | josch: btw i would personally be terrified to solder to battery terminals | 23:42 |
| josch | i'll be taping everything to make sure nothing shorts... fingers crossed... | 23:48 |
| josch | but can you believe that factorio runs at 60 fps with lots of room to spare? that binary is x86 after all and is being emulated o0 | 23:49 |
| josch | (via box64 so only partly) | 23:49 |
| minute | josch: ah, i somehow expected you wanted to solder JST connectors to the leads | 23:50 |
| josch | i'm now 6 hours into my playthrough and nothing lags, no crashes | 23:50 |
| minute | josch: haha yes i was surprised how well factorio works | 23:50 |
| minute | i'll now play a bit of Old Skies on the reform next :D | 23:51 |
| josch | minute: i have some pre-assembled JST PH2 cables here -- somehow i need to attach those to the bare cables from the battery pack | 23:51 |
| minute | josch: yeah. i think normally those are crimped. | 23:52 |
| minute | josch: i don't actually know about the physics and safety around soldering to a positive battery lead. if i had to do it i would check some best practices on the net | 23:52 |
| josch | okay, i'll see what i can find | 23:53 |
| josch | thank you for the warning! | 23:53 |
| wickedshell | Heat into lipo == fun times? | 23:53 |
| wickedshell | That's a big part of why people use those spot welders when working with 18650's, you can get very sketchy trying to use an iron on a battery :/ | 23:54 |
| josch | wickedshell: the cell itself will be away from the heat of the soldering iron -- but the cell has bare cables coming out of it (with a protection board between the cable ends and the cell) and need some connector | 23:54 |
| wickedshell | josch: ah okay if you already have a protection board in between to act as a thermal brake it's probably fine. Direct soldering to the pouch's cell is where things get messy | 23:55 |
| josch | nonononono i'm not going to attempt that :D | 23:56 |
| wickedshell | phew! :p | 23:59 |
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