| josch | minute: call this script https://paste.debian.net/hidden/52cc305c/ with schemas/20_reform.gschema.override as the first argument and it will print which of your current settings differ from those in that file | 01:33 |
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| josch | I could add this to reform-check and also add a mode which alls reset() on those settings that do differ, restoring their default | 01:33 |
| josch | minute: then you don't need to add reform-gnome-config anymore, right? | 01:35 |
| minute | josch: great, thanks a ton, i'll test that tomorrow! | 01:36 |
| josch | okay :) | 01:36 |
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| gsora | minute: wondering if it's worth picking up a trackpad alongside the trackball for my reform, is the next's one coming to reform2? not shape-wise ofc, the new scrolling things you're working on looks nice though | 07:37 |
| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a00:8300:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 07:44 | |
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| minute | nice https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests/4459 | 11:05 |
| minute | gsora: right now trackpad for classic is on hold and not offered by us as an option :/ bringing it back will be more of a long term thing | 11:07 |
| minute | gsora: the trackpad sensor component i used for classic is EOL | 11:07 |
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| + gustav28 (~gustav@c-78-82-54-59.bbcust.telenor.se) | 13:02 | |
| josch | minute: wow, really nice find -- congrats that upstream is taking care of it now! | 13:22 |
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| gsora | minute: ah i see, good thing i chose the trackball then - hoping in a hi-res trackpad for reform2 in the future :^) | 14:39 |
| minute | josch: about !123, looks good to me, so with that i'll remove the autostart .desktop file from system-image and test that. do you think !123 could be merged? | 15:23 |
| minute | josch: the comment about the autostart should be removed then from the top of reform-gnome-config | 15:24 |
| minute | josch: also, any blockers to merge https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/merge_requests/112 ? (none from my side) | 15:26 |
| - andreas-e (QUIT: Quit: Leaving) (~Andreas@sauterelle.math.u-bordeaux1.fr) | 15:32 | |
| josch | minute: about !112 -- yes, i'm concerned about the upgrade path. The meta-package now pulls in gnome and with that gdm and I wonder what that will do to existing systems with sway and greetd/tuigreet. I didn't test that yet. | 15:39 |
| josch | minute: !123 might be fine (I didn't test very thoroughly whether the schema override does the desired thing or not) but merging reform-tools MRs poses zero risks | 15:40 |
| josch | minute: only merging reform-debian-packages stuff is risky because whatever the pipeline in main produces will be placed on the MNT mirrors an hour later | 15:40 |
| josch | minute: so if you think that reform-tools !123 is ready, press the merge button. If there are bugs, those can easily be fixed after the fact without affecting anybody. | 15:41 |
| josch | minute: and about the autostart .desktop file: yes, if everything works as we expect, then that one should not be necessary anymore. Does that also make reform-gnome-config obsolute now that reform-check contains code to show the user how to migrate their system to the MNT defaults? | 15:44 |
| minute | josch: not sure about reform-gnome-config, it could also solve/cleanup any greetd/gdm foo in the future for example | 15:49 |
| josch | okay | 15:50 |
| minute | josch: we wanna ship a batch of 30 rk3588 classic reforms this week with gnome because it would be bad UX to ship something immediately deprecated | 15:50 |
| minute | so i'm thinking how can i make a system image for them relatively safely | 15:50 |
| minute | josch: i'd like to start reinstalling those machines tomorrow | 15:52 |
| josch | okay, let me quickly do the test of installing the modified reform-desktop meta package on a system configured with sway and tuigreet | 15:52 |
| minute | josch: cool | 15:52 |
| josch | minute: did you verify already that the schema overrides do what they are supposed to? | 15:53 |
| minute | josch: no, can do it now (in 5 mins) | 15:53 |
| josch | nice -- fresh system image is getting copied on my poor victim sd-card :) | 15:56 |
| minute | trying to wrap my head around how to test this | 16:07 |
| josch | did you already schedule a system image to be built with all the new stuff in it? | 16:08 |
| minute | josch: no | 16:08 |
| minute | can do it now, i have to push the commit that removes the autostart | 16:08 |
| josch | you could for example merge the reform-tools stuff that you think is good -- as i said, if something is wrong we can fix it later | 16:08 |
| minute | ok | 16:08 |
| josch | and then you run reform-system-image and tell it to use reform-tools from the main branch | 16:09 |
| minute | josch: ok, reform-tools MR merged, gonna push reform-system-image. reform-debian-packages branch will remain as "gnome" | 16:10 |
| josch | okay | 16:11 |
| minute | https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/pipelines/3983 | 16:11 |
| minute | josch: woops, i made a huge mistake | 16:12 |
| minute | josch: clicked merge on reform-debian-packages instead of reform-tools | 16:12 |
| minute | stopping the repo auto deployments... | 16:13 |
| josch | minute: should i just rewrite history to undo that quickly? | 16:13 |
| minute | josch: if you can, that would be great yeah | 16:13 |
| josch | okay, say... | 16:13 |
| minute | josch: ok, now i clicked merge on the right thing (reform-tools !123) | 16:15 |
| josch | :) | 16:15 |
| minute | josch: i also stopped the system-image pipeline because that was too early | 16:16 |
| josch | right | 16:16 |
| - Ar|stote|is (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~linx@149.210.72.249) | 16:16 | |
| josch | minute: main does not have the top 2 commits anymore and here is 112 again: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/merge_requests/113 | 16:17 |
| minute | josch: i also stopped the pipeline of my mistaken reform-debian-packages merge that was still running | 16:17 |
| josch | okay, everything is good then :) | 16:18 |
| minute | josch: great, thank you for the quick support! | 16:18 |
| josch | no worries! | 16:18 |
| josch | it definitely *is* confusing | 16:18 |
| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a00:8300:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 16:19 | |
| josch | you are right that i should be writing up a document which describes all the interactions... | 16:19 |
| minute | yeah i had 2 browser tabs and just selected the wrong one :0 | 16:19 |
| minute | re-enabled the hourly deb deployment so i don't forget that | 16:20 |
| josch | okay, i'm now upgrading a system with sway+greetd to the new meta package | 16:20 |
| josch | Upgrading: 7, Installing: 642, Removing: 0, Not Upgrading: 0 | 16:21 |
| josch | Download size: 519 MB | 16:21 |
| josch | Space needed: 2,116 MB | 16:21 |
| josch | lets see... | 16:21 |
| minute | suspense :3 | 16:23 |
| minute | i kind of predict that gdm won't start easily | 16:23 |
| josch | it probably also helps, that those with the meta packages will only be those who very recently started a fresh system from a system image | 16:23 |
| + Ar|stote|is (~linx@149.210.74.47) | 16:24 | |
| minute | like, something is borked about the systemd unit for gdm | 16:24 |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@214.181-24.cm.ptn.tftn.dynamic.friendlycity.net) | 16:26 | |
| josch | it will still take a while -- this is just an sd-card :) | 16:28 |
| josch | in completely unrelated news: | 16:32 |
| josch | Bus 002 Device 004: ID 2c7c:0306 Quectel Wireless Solutions Co., Ltd. EG06/EP06/EM06 LTE-A modem | 16:32 |
| josch | i got a mini-scare because the thing shipped with a adapter to plug it into a usb-port and on the classic reform this resulted in "unable to enumerate USB device"... | 16:33 |
| josch | minute: okay i have results. What happens is the following. I installed the updated meta packages from the gitlab CI artifacts, pulling in gnome and gdm. After rebooting I am presented with gdm (i did not touch the greetd systemd unit or the tuigreet config) which will log me into *gnome* | 16:44 |
| josch | so i guess a forum post is in order explaining how to log into sway instead (if desired) by clickingon the small cog wheel icon on the bottom right after selecting the user name | 16:45 |
| josch | one can then choose sway from a popup menu | 16:45 |
| josch | and i'm back in sway | 16:45 |
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| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@214.181-24.cm.ptn.tftn.dynamic.friendlycity.net) | 16:49 | |
| minute | josch: ok cool. does it still work after a reboot? i.e. does gdm still come up? | 16:49 |
| minute | josch: also, in gnome, can you press super+enter and get gnome terminal? do you get brightness control with super+f1/f2? | 16:49 |
| josch | minute: i rebooted. No idea how else i would get gdm. or do you mean reboot a second time? | 16:50 |
| josch | testing... | 16:50 |
| minute | josch: ahh yeah ok. do you have a dock with icons? do you have mnt reform logo in gdm? do you have the "y2k" mnt logo background in gnome? | 16:50 |
| minute | josch: (actually, not sure if you would get those with the current state of our rollout...) | 16:51 |
| josch | no, wait | 16:51 |
| josch | i am just testing the reform tools meta package | 16:51 |
| josch | the changes you are talking about are in reform-tools upstream | 16:51 |
| minute | josch: ah right :D sorry | 16:51 |
| josch | i'd need a new system image for that | 16:51 |
| josch | but once the pipeline is complete you can shout and i pop it in | 16:51 |
| josch | (and yes, a second boot still works) | 16:52 |
| minute | josch: yes right. ok, rerunning the pipeline | 16:52 |
| minute | josch: great, thanks for confirming @ gdm | 16:53 |
| + mark_ (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 16:53 | |
| minute | i'm debugging LPC SPI stuff | 16:53 |
| josch | nice, then i'll be back to doing actual $dayjob stuff for a bit :D | 16:54 |
| minute | interestingly during boot, LPC gets a lot of wrong "0xff" bytes over spi from the rk3588 | 16:54 |
| minute | josch: about !113 (prev. !112), your concern was now alleviated, no? | 16:55 |
| minute | (reform-debian-packages) | 16:56 |
| josch | minute: yes, the thing still boots just fine | 16:57 |
| josch | minute: i'd still write a community forum post though so that nobody gets scared when their tuigreet suddenly got replaced by gdm | 16:57 |
| josch | and how to select sway instead of gnome (if they want that) | 16:57 |
| josch | (because it's a bit hidden) | 16:57 |
| + svp (~svp@host-79-7-240-189.business.telecomitalia.it) | 16:58 | |
| josch | but yes, my concerns are alleviated as at least the system does not become soft-bricked :) | 16:58 |
| minute | josch: great, ok, will do | 17:01 |
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| mhoye | How strongly do we care about protected vs. unprotected batteries, in the Reform? | 17:05 |
| mhoye | LiFePo4 batteries are... sort of unobtainium around here. | 17:06 |
| kfx | mhoye: I've used protected batteries before. they work fine but the battery gauge in the system controller gets confused | 17:08 |
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| + S0rin (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 17:10 | |
| + robin (~robin@user/terpri) | 17:11 | |
| mhoye | huh | 17:15 |
| mhoye | Thanks | 17:15 |
| mhoye | That explains some confusion | 17:16 |
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| minute | currently rewriting the SPI part of reform2-lpc-fw oof | 17:39 |
| + Gooberpatrol66 (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 17:41 | |
| josch | is that the issue that mojyack tried to fix regarding the battery voltage jumps? | 18:04 |
| josch | minute: the latest reform-system-image pipeline failed -- i'm pushing a commit fixing that into "gnome" branch, okay? | 18:06 |
| josch | ah you just did that | 18:07 |
| josch | yes, that should do that trick | 18:08 |
| minute | josch: yep @ spi, and i need some additional functionality for desktop reform | 18:25 |
| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a00:8300:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 18:26 | |
| josch | the last reform-system-image pipeline failed after a few seconds with: WARNING: Failed to pull image with policy "always": Error response from daemon: Get "https://registry-1.docker.io/v2/": net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers) (manager.go:250:15s) | 18:37 |
| josch | i pressed the retry button and now it runs | 18:37 |
| josch | succeeded -- flashing now | 18:52 |
| josch | no reform logo in gdm | 19:10 |
| josch | keybindings don't work | 19:10 |
| josch | no y2k wallpaper | 19:10 |
| josch | oh theory: after installing the new version of /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/20_reform.gschema.override we need to run glib-compile-schemas and that doesn't happen right now | 19:15 |
| josch | minute: why is the console font so super large? i didn't see that change | 19:57 |
| josch | YES! that was it! | 20:00 |
| josch | hrm... at least the wallpaper works | 20:00 |
| josch | super+enter not yet | 20:00 |
| josch | okay, the keyboard shortcuts do not work | 20:01 |
| josch | maybe the syntax in the override file is wrong | 20:01 |
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| + vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50) | 21:10 | |
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| + GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) | 21:16 | |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Ping timeout: 272 seconds) (~Thunderbi@134.22.115.162) | 21:46 | |
| josch | minute: i took the liberty of pushing my fixes directly into your "gnome" branch, okay? I fixed: run glib-compile-schemas, fix schema typo, install share/gdm/dconf/95-mnt-reform-settings, set cobalt theme for gnome editor | 21:57 |
| josch | pipeline running... | 21:57 |
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| - robin (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~robin@user/terpri) | 22:29 | |
| + robin (~robin@user/terpri) | 22:33 | |
| josch | it works! https://mister-muffin.de/p/Px3F.jpg | 22:34 |
| josch | there is still a bug in the custom shortcut super+enter -- but should be "easy" to fix because right now, gnome-control-center just crashes when one tries to edit the shortcuts | 22:44 |
| josch | and a helpful message by gsetting just told me that my path requires a trailing slash -- aha! | 23:19 |
| - chomwitt (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a00:8300:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 23:31 | |
| josch | okay, so trailing slash makes the control center not segfault anymore but the key binding is still not working... | 23:44 |
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