2025-05-18.log

BoostisBetterminute: disregard, josch was able to help me. FYI removing the -s option when using which was the trick. This is probably just a version difference between the which on debian stable and debian unstable. I will report back if I have the kb reset and disconnect issues still. I suspect they will be fixed. 00:11
joschminute: the problem with using "which" is, that there are multiple implementation in Debian with incompatible interfaces. If you want to check whether a tool exists, 'command -v myprog' is the canonical way00:12
joschor, alternatively, you enforce a specific implementation of which00:13
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joschminute: more than 10k jobs now in your gitlab: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/jobs/1001907:23
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BoostisBetterminute: just had my first psuspend resume after 8 hours of being psuspended with power adapter attached. It resumed perfectly. Furthermore there was no keyboard reset messages on the oled. I really think you might not need to send me the replacement kb afterall.08:08
joschzeha: thank you for your help! grml now boots on the MNT Reform: https://mister-muffin.de/p/ihu4.jpg08:09
BoostisBetterjosch: woot!08:11
joschBoostisBetter: on your reform to be more precise ;)08:13
BoostisBetterexcellent! teamwork makes the dream work! 08:16
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digitalraneI solved the bizarre imx8mq + nixos + kernel 6.14 backlight power mystery (mostly) - it works now, I compiled more stuff as modules, added the simpledrm init to initcall_blacklist, made sure that all the pwm drivers were being loaded before panel dirvers & nothing for other boards was being compiled-in, and disabled deferred takeover and the backlight now enables during boot08:29
digitalranei figure it was some kind of competition or multi-module situation which meant that some of the checks in bl_pwm which enable the power on boot (i.e. regulator attached, gpios attached) must have been failing08:30
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joschdigitalrane: wow, impressive stamina on your part!08:31
joschcongratulations!08:31
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digitalranethank you ^_^ yes it was certainly a puzzle, but now I understand the kernel backlight + devicetree + drm + framebuffer relationship much better, which is a plus08:32
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joschdigitalrane: i've been there in 2021 when i moved the mostly module-free MNT kernel for ix8mq to a patch of the Debian Linux kernel packaging... lots of fun!08:38
joschthe good part is: once it works, you "only" need to hunt down the regressions via git bisect ;)08:39
BoostisBetterindeed! There is always a reward for effort in the software world. 08:40
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joschzeha: i do have an issue with your patch https://paste.debian.net/hidden/f447da9c/ since the path to the dtbs includes the kernel version, the extlinux.conf fdtdir path must also somehow know the kernel version from inside the squashfs. I see the following ways forward:09:14
joscha) do this instead to make the path unversioned: cp -r "${CHROOT_OUTPUT}/boot/dtbs"/* "${BUILD_OUTPUT}/boot/dtbs"09:14
joschb) i do this transformation when converting the squashfs to ext409:15
joschc) i generate extlinux.conf much earlier at the point from within grml when the kernel version is still known09:15
joschzeha: since vmlinuz and initrd are also unversioned, maybe /boot/dtbs should also only contain unversioned content?09:16
joschor in other words: the content for that kernel that corresponds to whatever vmlinuz gets copied to the outside09:16
joschthen extlinux.conf can remain static without a dynamic version in it09:16
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joschzeha: grml also found an interesting reform-tools bug which shows up if kernel and reform-tools are not part of the same "apt install" request. Fixed here: https://salsa.debian.org/reform-team/reform-tools/-/commit/01d934f368ebde824ae265689f804d6c4998de2310:20
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zehajosch: ah good that this bug was found :)13:12
zehacan i copypaste your points above for the dtbs thing into a gh issue?13:13
zehajosch: also, do you have an extlinux.conf that i can add to that issue? maybe its easiest if grml-live generates the extlinux.conf?13:13
zehajosch: ^ so thats basically c)13:13
zehajosch: but for that i'd like to have a template to work from13:13
zehajosch: also, q: do the debian kernels also install dtbs there? potentially hundreds?13:14
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zehahttps://github.com/grml/grml-live/issues/336 <- this13:21
zehahm, charging off my macbook seems to -maybe- work, should also look at that13:25
zehaand dumb chargers, really need to get that to work13:25
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zehajosch: do you have a fork of grml-live.git with all your changes somewhere that i can look at?13:56
zeha(i should be working on something completely different)13:56
joschzeha: thank you, i put my script into the issue14:00
joschzeha: there is no fork because nothing i do changes grml-live itself14:00
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zehathanks14:04
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digitalraneafter a few more module tweaks the same 6.14 kernel + reform patches is building a working NixOS 24.11 install with display + wifi on pocket reform w/ imx8mp14:20
digitalranewill tidy up and post on community.14:20
digitalraneafter some more testing and some full nvme installs I think14:20
digitalranei also packaged and got the lpc driver working too which has been some nice polish for proper shutdown & being able to get battery levels etc14:21
joschdigitalrane: nice! will your work be able to go into nixos proper?14:25
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BoostisBetterminute: in case you are real close to shipping me a replacement kb with the new backplate, I wanted to let you know that I don't think the replacement kb is necessary. After upgrading the sysctrl and kb yesterday both have been working flawlessly ever since. I mean I guess a bit more time could be used, but I think I am in the clear. I will say if something happens though, but I am doubtful that 15:07
BoostisBetterit will. I think the kb is good again. 15:07
joschBoostisBetter: I think it would be prudent to write this to support@mntre.com15:38
BoostisBetter👍️15:39
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grimmwarejosch: nice thank you. I left a comment about maybe wanting to put this in 6.13 too but it doesn't need to be a blocker to merging the rest16:11
joschgrimmware: you need 6.13 for some reason?16:12
grimmwareno, really  just for the sake of consistency (i.e. if anyone's debugging in the future and thinks it's not in 6.13 for an undocumented reason as opposed to "forgot")16:13
grimmwareI have no strong opinion either way, just wanted to call it out16:13
joschi was actually planning to rm -r all the irrelevant versions once trixie is released16:13
grimmwareah legit that makes sense16:17
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elektronwith trixie frozen for release, is it a good time to update our sources.list stuff to poit to trixie if we wanna go stable?17:57
BoostisBetternot sure but I have been on stable on my pocket reform for a long time and it has been rock solid. 18:07
joschelektron: yes, i think you could switch your sources.list to trixie now and, if you like, replace your MNT Debian mirror with the one from reform.d.n once trixie is released18:48
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elektronjosch: thanks! https://reform.debian.net/repo/#step-1-adjust-apt-sources , right?20:28
joschelektron: except that you want trixie and not bookworm and you want to keep the MNT until the release of trixie at the very least20:29
elektrongot it..20:30
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