| BoostisBetter | minute: disregard, josch was able to help me. FYI removing the -s option when using which was the trick. This is probably just a version difference between the which on debian stable and debian unstable. I will report back if I have the kb reset and disconnect issues still. I suspect they will be fixed. | 00:11 |
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| josch | minute: the problem with using "which" is, that there are multiple implementation in Debian with incompatible interfaces. If you want to check whether a tool exists, 'command -v myprog' is the canonical way | 00:12 |
| josch | or, alternatively, you enforce a specific implementation of which | 00:13 |
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| josch | minute: more than 10k jobs now in your gitlab: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/jobs/10019 | 07:23 |
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| BoostisBetter | minute: just had my first psuspend resume after 8 hours of being psuspended with power adapter attached. It resumed perfectly. Furthermore there was no keyboard reset messages on the oled. I really think you might not need to send me the replacement kb afterall. | 08:08 |
| josch | zeha: thank you for your help! grml now boots on the MNT Reform: https://mister-muffin.de/p/ihu4.jpg | 08:09 |
| BoostisBetter | josch: woot! | 08:11 |
| josch | BoostisBetter: on your reform to be more precise ;) | 08:13 |
| BoostisBetter | excellent! teamwork makes the dream work! | 08:16 |
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| digitalrane | I solved the bizarre imx8mq + nixos + kernel 6.14 backlight power mystery (mostly) - it works now, I compiled more stuff as modules, added the simpledrm init to initcall_blacklist, made sure that all the pwm drivers were being loaded before panel dirvers & nothing for other boards was being compiled-in, and disabled deferred takeover and the backlight now enables during boot | 08:29 |
| digitalrane | i figure it was some kind of competition or multi-module situation which meant that some of the checks in bl_pwm which enable the power on boot (i.e. regulator attached, gpios attached) must have been failing | 08:30 |
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| josch | digitalrane: wow, impressive stamina on your part! | 08:31 |
| josch | congratulations! | 08:31 |
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| digitalrane | thank you ^_^ yes it was certainly a puzzle, but now I understand the kernel backlight + devicetree + drm + framebuffer relationship much better, which is a plus | 08:32 |
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| josch | digitalrane: i've been there in 2021 when i moved the mostly module-free MNT kernel for ix8mq to a patch of the Debian Linux kernel packaging... lots of fun! | 08:38 |
| josch | the good part is: once it works, you "only" need to hunt down the regressions via git bisect ;) | 08:39 |
| BoostisBetter | indeed! There is always a reward for effort in the software world. | 08:40 |
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| josch | zeha: i do have an issue with your patch https://paste.debian.net/hidden/f447da9c/ since the path to the dtbs includes the kernel version, the extlinux.conf fdtdir path must also somehow know the kernel version from inside the squashfs. I see the following ways forward: | 09:14 |
| josch | a) do this instead to make the path unversioned: cp -r "${CHROOT_OUTPUT}/boot/dtbs"/* "${BUILD_OUTPUT}/boot/dtbs" | 09:14 |
| josch | b) i do this transformation when converting the squashfs to ext4 | 09:15 |
| josch | c) i generate extlinux.conf much earlier at the point from within grml when the kernel version is still known | 09:15 |
| josch | zeha: since vmlinuz and initrd are also unversioned, maybe /boot/dtbs should also only contain unversioned content? | 09:16 |
| josch | or in other words: the content for that kernel that corresponds to whatever vmlinuz gets copied to the outside | 09:16 |
| josch | then extlinux.conf can remain static without a dynamic version in it | 09:16 |
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| josch | zeha: grml also found an interesting reform-tools bug which shows up if kernel and reform-tools are not part of the same "apt install" request. Fixed here: https://salsa.debian.org/reform-team/reform-tools/-/commit/01d934f368ebde824ae265689f804d6c4998de23 | 10:20 |
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| zeha | josch: ah good that this bug was found :) | 13:12 |
| zeha | can i copypaste your points above for the dtbs thing into a gh issue? | 13:13 |
| zeha | josch: also, do you have an extlinux.conf that i can add to that issue? maybe its easiest if grml-live generates the extlinux.conf? | 13:13 |
| zeha | josch: ^ so thats basically c) | 13:13 |
| zeha | josch: but for that i'd like to have a template to work from | 13:13 |
| zeha | josch: also, q: do the debian kernels also install dtbs there? potentially hundreds? | 13:14 |
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| zeha | https://github.com/grml/grml-live/issues/336 <- this | 13:21 |
| zeha | hm, charging off my macbook seems to -maybe- work, should also look at that | 13:25 |
| zeha | and dumb chargers, really need to get that to work | 13:25 |
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| zeha | josch: do you have a fork of grml-live.git with all your changes somewhere that i can look at? | 13:56 |
| zeha | (i should be working on something completely different) | 13:56 |
| josch | zeha: thank you, i put my script into the issue | 14:00 |
| josch | zeha: there is no fork because nothing i do changes grml-live itself | 14:00 |
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| zeha | thanks | 14:04 |
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| digitalrane | after a few more module tweaks the same 6.14 kernel + reform patches is building a working NixOS 24.11 install with display + wifi on pocket reform w/ imx8mp | 14:20 |
| digitalrane | will tidy up and post on community. | 14:20 |
| digitalrane | after some more testing and some full nvme installs I think | 14:20 |
| digitalrane | i also packaged and got the lpc driver working too which has been some nice polish for proper shutdown & being able to get battery levels etc | 14:21 |
| josch | digitalrane: nice! will your work be able to go into nixos proper? | 14:25 |
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| BoostisBetter | minute: in case you are real close to shipping me a replacement kb with the new backplate, I wanted to let you know that I don't think the replacement kb is necessary. After upgrading the sysctrl and kb yesterday both have been working flawlessly ever since. I mean I guess a bit more time could be used, but I think I am in the clear. I will say if something happens though, but I am doubtful that | 15:07 |
| BoostisBetter | it will. I think the kb is good again. | 15:07 |
| josch | BoostisBetter: I think it would be prudent to write this to support@mntre.com | 15:38 |
| BoostisBetter | 👍️ | 15:39 |
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| grimmware | josch: nice thank you. I left a comment about maybe wanting to put this in 6.13 too but it doesn't need to be a blocker to merging the rest | 16:11 |
| josch | grimmware: you need 6.13 for some reason? | 16:12 |
| grimmware | no, really just for the sake of consistency (i.e. if anyone's debugging in the future and thinks it's not in 6.13 for an undocumented reason as opposed to "forgot") | 16:13 |
| grimmware | I have no strong opinion either way, just wanted to call it out | 16:13 |
| josch | i was actually planning to rm -r all the irrelevant versions once trixie is released | 16:13 |
| grimmware | ah legit that makes sense | 16:17 |
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| elektron | with trixie frozen for release, is it a good time to update our sources.list stuff to poit to trixie if we wanna go stable? | 17:57 |
| BoostisBetter | not sure but I have been on stable on my pocket reform for a long time and it has been rock solid. | 18:07 |
| josch | elektron: yes, i think you could switch your sources.list to trixie now and, if you like, replace your MNT Debian mirror with the one from reform.d.n once trixie is released | 18:48 |
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| elektron | josch: thanks! https://reform.debian.net/repo/#step-1-adjust-apt-sources , right? | 20:28 |
| josch | elektron: except that you want trixie and not bookworm and you want to keep the MNT until the release of trixie at the very least | 20:29 |
| elektron | got it.. | 20:30 |
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