2025-05-14.log

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potatoespotatoesI'm trying to build a zfs kernel module for guix and, because of how guix works, it seems like I build the kernel /then/ the module, which the internet believes is unusual (is that unusual)? So I now have a folder for the kernel outputs (including a folder of modules), and a folder of zfs-specific kernel modules (there are two of them). Everyone in guix-land seems to build the kernel twice to merge the artifacts but that seems very 15:02
potatoespotatoesredundant. Does anyone know if I can just add these module paths to the modules.builtin or modules.order files? Or... maybe there is a better irc channel to ask this? you all are the most expert kernel hackers I know, so I'm asking here first.15:02
potatoespotatoes"so I'm asking here first." really: "I am not sure were else to ask"15:03
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hramrachpotatoespotatoes: building a kernel module requires the kernel, that's normal: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/kbuild/modules.html  When kmod is looking for modules it searches a specific directory which is named after the kernel version. Traditionally the kernel modules are in a 'kernel' subdirectory, and modules for additional extensions are put into separate directories in an 'update'16:12
hramrachsubdirectory, eg. /lib/modules/6.6.6/kernel /lib/modules/6.6.6/updates/zfs 16:12
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potatoespotatoesoooh, okay. very good to know16:37
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potatoespotatoessuper -- yeah, I did a full rebuild of what the guix folks usually do and it is exactly as you stated, they just seem to merge all of the folders.16:41
potatoespotatoesthank you hramrach!16:42
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joschanzu: the /boot contents you sent me look just fine! Here is the serial output: https://mister-muffin.de/p/Wo7m.txt16:53
joschit loads the kernel, it loads the initramfs, it loads the dtb...16:53
joschand then it tries to find an encrypted rootfs on nvme which of course doesn't exist in my case16:54
joschbut which it should find in your case16:54
joschso i think you need some serial output to get any further because as far as I can see, your /boot looks good16:56
anzujosch: Thank you a lot! That helps! Strange, but good that my /boot is fine :)16:59
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minutejosch: about the lpc battery comms work by mojyack, i'm not sure if i agree with the approach yet. i think something like CRC would be more useful (a common method), and it could be optional, so backwards compatible. also, i would like to understand better why this problem is happening at all instead of just plastering over it17:02
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zehaack17:02
zehai also dont understand what the sysctl fw changes do in the first place17:03
zeha"why does this help"17:03
minutei.e., why would SPI not be reliable? it's supposed to be more reliable than this17:03
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minuteso i guess there's just a bug somewhere17:04
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joschminute: understood. I don't want to make any call in this matter and will leave this completely up to you to decide how to proceed with all of this.17:11
minutejosch: cool!17:12
joschi only felt that i had to comment that it's a problem to update the dkms module in a way which *requires* users to also flash a new lpc firmware... i found that not quite ideal to put it mildly17:13
minuteyeah also the module works for a range of machines17:13
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hramrachthere is the thing that TPM drivers also implement cheksums and retransmits so it's not unheard of that data gets corrupted. It's probably a hardware bug if that happens often enough to notice but it can happen21:21
hramrachbut also adding the cheksumming may alter some timing or something, I recall talking to some NFC reader and it would just not respond at all but the Arduino library would work just fine, even when compiled for Linux21:24
elbIs there a way to get an update on order status from shop.mntre.com ?21:50
gordon2elb: you can drop a message on support@mntre.com including your order number and ask for estimate, it is an official way mentioned in FAQ 21:57
elbok, that felt pestersome, but maybe I'm itchy enough to do that ;-)22:00
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