2025-05-04.log

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+ gustav28 (~gustav@c-78-82-52-75.bbcust.telenor.se)10:02
+ chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:587:7a24:7f00:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1)10:55
zehaACTION blames josch11:00
zehalending me a weird usb-c charger11:00
- jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~quassel@47-186-65-73.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net)11:04
+ jacobk (~quassel@47-186-65-73.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net)11:04
joschsome call it "a weird usb-c charger"11:05
joschothers call it "a great test case for the new pocket charger firmware" :D11:05
zeha:D11:30
zehaactually its worse11:37
zehanow that i flashed the main branch firmware again, it works with your charger, and after that it rejects -my- charger11:37
zehaor rather, my charger rejects the pocket11:37
zehasee, thats why need plugfests11:40
zehai think the fusb is now in a weird state11:40
zehaonce i plug the usb-c cable back into the pocket - but its unplugged from the charger - the fw goes into a SETUP -> UNATTACHED_SRC loop11:41
zehaok makes more sense now11:43
zehanot great tho11:43
zehaaha11:49
- xktr (QUIT: Ping timeout: 276 seconds) (~xktr@user/xktr)11:50
zehamy charger's second output is 20V/1.5A, and we request 2A for safety now11:50
zehaobv. the charger rejects this11:50
zehawe really need to answer the power envelope question :/11:50
+ xktr (~xktr@user/xktr)11:51
zehaminute: how much power can really be drawn by the pocket and how does it vary with different setups?11:51
zehahmm11:57
zehawith unscientific test i can get to 20V@1.6A11:59
zehabut i dont have good loads11:59
zehamp2650 datasheet claims 45W max12:04
- BoostisBetter (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (4a410829d7@irc.cheogram.com)12:05
- SavagePeanut (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (59eaa45ac7@irc.cheogram.com)12:05
zeharight, and we set 2A max12:05
zehawait, we set 2.4A? doh12:06
zehagotta look at this in a quiet moment12:07
- GNUmoon (QUIT: Ping timeout: 264 seconds) (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon)12:14
+ GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon)12:15
bremnerI guess for leaving a pocket reform at home for a few weeks (sorry little buddy), I should switch the standby switch to off (or however it shipped?) Just got back after 1 week "powered off" and it is down to 41% battery.12:15
+ SavagePeanut (59eaa45ac7@irc.cheogram.com)12:26
+ paperManu (~paperManu@172.93.30.55)12:57
grimmwareGiving niri window manager a go on my pocket, I think it'll likely be a good match because overflowing windows rather than tiling them down super tiny by default suits a smaller display better13:03
grimmwareI also think I'd benefit from a more spatial organizational paradigm too13:04
grimmwareI think my brain will keep track of everything a little better13:04
grimmwarehmm, trying to find a program that will allow me to till use tmux-copy-mode-like keybindings in a terminal but without having to use full tmux because I want to try to move more toward a single consistent window management paradigm13:15
grimmwareI essentially just want the persistance and the copy mode13:15
grimmwarehmm, looks like alacritty supports a vim-like copy mode13:24
grimmwarethat'll do for now13:24
+ amk (~amk@user/amk)13:37
zehabremner: yeah, until people find time to improve the 'off' power usage13:58
bremnerzeha: ok, thanks13:59
+ mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)14:42
+ BoostisBetter (4a410829d7@irc.cheogram.com)15:16
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+ vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50)20:22
vagrantcis it /dev/ttyS2 for the serial console on rk3588?20:22
vagrantcseems to be. :)20:24
minuteyep20:28
minutewith 1.5 mbaud :D20:28
vagrantcyeah. i always thoguht 115k was plenty ... until i use 1500000 for a while and then switch back to 115k20:39
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+ chorc (~chorc@user/chorc)22:03
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+ jacobk (~quassel@47-186-65-73.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net)22:18
vagrantchrm. my first attempt at a 6.14 kernel on guix ... just flickered the screen a bit22:50
vagrantcwith a reform2 rk358822:50
vagrantcdid not check if it worked from serial console... (need guix seems quiet on the console)22:51
minutevagrantc: did you include the latest dts changes?22:57
vagrantci included the latest i found :)22:57
vagrantcspecifically up to https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/merge_requests/100/diffs?commit_id=46f6a797c023540beb2570d002f2cec4c995505d23:00
vagrantcit is possible some missing kernel configs ... i have all the stuff in reform-debian-packages.git/linux/config but that is the relative to the debian packaging vs. the upstream defconfig23:01
vagrantcworked fine for 6.12 luckily ...23:02
minutevagrantc: ok you're on latest-enough state then23:02
minutebut might be that i still have a mistake there regarding the internal hdmi converter version of rk3588, will test that tomorrow23:02
vagrantci saw soemwhere that newer models do not use the hdmi adapter?23:03
vagrantcaha. yes. that. :)23:03
minutethe ones that we're gonna ship now yeah23:03
minutethat's what the -dsi variant of the dts is for23:03
vagrantcnice to not have to carry an extra adapter!23:03
minuteit's internal23:03
vagrantci mean, the hdmi adapter board23:04
minuteyeah, a piece of internal electronics less23:04
minuteunfortunately with existing rcore + motherboards you'd have to remove 1 resistor on the motherboard to migrate to this same setup23:05
minute(easy to do for people with soldering skills though)23:05
vagrantci know folks... but have never really gotten confident in my own skills ... which obviously means i don't get any better. :)23:07
minutei'll also order a new batch of rcore boards this week with a new fix for that integrated23:09

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