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| josch | if tablet reform becomes a thing i wish it would use a screen which can be put to super low brightness, so that i can use it as a replacement for an ebook reader and read at night... | 00:42 |
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| josch | minute: your idea with testing single vs. dual dtb on imx8mq might've been spot-on | 06:24 |
| josch | with the dual display dtb, BoostisBetter's reform now idles since sunday morning without any crash | 06:25 |
| josch | of course it's hard to say because it's random but with the single display dtb the crash was after 12-24 hours and now it's more than 48 hours | 06:25 |
| josch | i'll test more but this is looking promising | 06:25 |
| BoostisBetter | josch: that is great news! | 07:03 |
| josch | another theory: what if what I earlier identified as "dmps broken" was actually "single display broken" and since i never considered that single vs. dual display could make things buggy I did the testing for the dpms issue wrongly? | 07:29 |
| josch | i now used swaymsg "output * dpms off" with dual display and we'll see if it craps out or not | 07:29 |
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| BoostisBetter | josch: is dpms instead of brightnessctl the preferred method? | 09:38 |
| josch | BoostisBetter: it is the methods that the big DEs use to "turn off display when idle" so in KDE Plasma for example I had to turn that off or otherwise it would freeze at some point | 09:45 |
| josch | But maybe I just have to select dual display and then it works? We'll see.. | 09:45 |
| josch | Testing this will take many weeks because of how relatively rare the hang-up is | 09:45 |
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| BoostisBetter | josch: you have used kde on the Reform? | 12:36 |
| josch | BoostisBetter: yes, kde plasma in 2022 for the whole summer | 12:40 |
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| zeha | josch: are there recent builds of things with picolibc from unstable? just wondering if https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1104364 might affect more than just snek | 17:09 |
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| BoostisBetter | josch: since being on Open Mandriva I have come to really like KDE Plasma. | 18:44 |
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| minute | who wants to volunteer testing new pocket reform firmware update scripts? https://community.mnt.re/t/keyboard-and-trackball-unresponsive/3299/14 | 20:01 |
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| zeha | tomorrow :) | 20:23 |
| zeha | hm, i didnt bring a serial cable | 20:23 |
| zeha | hoping josch will have one if its necessary | 20:23 |
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| minute | zeha: my goal is to make it easy for everyone to get to the latest fw, regardless of which old or new version they have | 20:28 |
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| zeha | yeah good idea | 20:30 |
| minute | zeha: josch: i made a new repo for these scripts (and will also add more internal factory flashing/testing scripts over time) because i need a different repo to be able to pin the build versions/jobs/... of the other repo(s) https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-factory/ | 20:32 |
| chorc | minute: worked on my pocket, after reboot it didn't start, required off/on using standby switch | 20:33 |
| minute | chorc: sysctl probably? | 20:33 |
| chorc | minute: I've updated both | 20:33 |
| minute | chorc: i've noticed some flakiness when upgrading the old version yeah. also one thing that can happen during update is that if you're unlucky, the charger chip can crash and charging will cease to work, then you need to replug the batteries ;/ | 20:34 |
| minute | we should probably introduce something in sysctl fw that prepares it for an update, i.e. making sure it's not in the middle of i2c transactions to the charger things | 20:34 |
| chorc | from my experience, I think it might be good to check battery status and/or inform the user to plugin | 20:34 |
| minute | (otoh it's weird that mps2650 doesn't recover automatically) | 20:35 |
| minute | chorc: ah yeah | 20:35 |
| chorc | worst case is when power goes off during firmware flash | 20:35 |
| chorc | for less technical folks anyway | 20:35 |
| chorc | also it might be idea to write a log with determenistic name, would be easier to troubleshoot if something happens | 20:37 |
| chorc | /idea/good idea/ | 20:38 |
| chorc | sorry, getting used to pocket keeb | 20:38 |
| chorc | but if this is soon will be under fwupd - they do all those things, safety checks etc | 20:40 |
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| chorc | minute: charging still works | 20:46 |
| minute | chorc: true, good points | 20:48 |
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| chorc | this is my second week with pocket, and so far it's a dream machine; I know everybody's excited about Reform Next, but I think pocket might be more compelling for those who mainly attach ext screen / keyboard... and the best part is amount of power Rockchip provides, maybe even too much :) | 20:52 |
| chorc | thanks so much to the team, I haven't been excited about laptop this much since Sparkbook I think :) | 20:53 |
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| zeha | i figured i can do some work before going to sleep on this night train | 21:01 |
| zeha | but the clicky keys might make that a bad plan :o | 21:02 |
| minute | chorc: pocket reform is definitely our most popular product! | 21:08 |
| chorc | I'm not surprised at all, it's awesome | 21:11 |
| frickler | curl | sudo bash, rly? :( | 21:12 |
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| josch | zeha: i never leave home without a philips screwdriver and a usb uart adapter ;) | 21:22 |
| zeha | great :) | 21:22 |
| josch | zeha: i can also bring a bag of 60 kailh choc brown switches in case you consider re-soldering :D | 21:24 |
| minute | frickler: well, there's a disclaimer right there. | 21:25 |
| minute | frickler: > disclaimer: it’s dangerous to pipe stuff from the internet to sudo bash, it’s best to read the script first. These one-liners are merely for convenience | 21:25 |
| josch | can we not ship scripts like this via reform-tools? | 21:26 |
| frickler | minute: ah, that's better, but that's not in https://source.mnt.re/reform/pocket-reform/-/releases | 21:26 |
| minute | frickler: it is now! | 21:27 |
| minute | josch: at some point for sure! just wanted to have an easy beta testing period before having to mess with CI and debian packaging etc | 21:27 |
| minute | josch: this way i can make fixes very quickly | 21:28 |
| zeha | also fwupd should work | 21:28 |
| josch | if that's the plan then i guess curl | sudo bash with that disclaimer is okay for now | 21:28 |
| frickler | ok, thx, will give it a go tomorrow | 21:28 |
| minute | zeha: josch: yeah this is the kludge to get everybody with old FW to a state where they'll be able to use fwupd next time | 21:29 |
| zeha | josch: are they hard to come by otherwise? (no clue) | 21:29 |
| josch | minute: we could ship md5sums in reform-tools or something? or ship your public gpg key there and then you sign things with your key? | 21:30 |
| minute | i guess since december or so we're already shipping more modern fw, but a lot of people still have builds from early 2024 | 21:30 |
| minute | josch: is it about my comment in the script, about verifying the md5 of the fw? | 21:30 |
| zeha | some shasum check should be fine and doable, no? | 21:31 |
| zeha | just so the file isnt corrupted at transport | 21:31 |
| chorc | zena: keebart.com sells some silent chocs in the EU, I've ordered a set, not arrived yet | 21:32 |
| zeha | k | 21:32 |
| minute | zeha: yeah | 21:33 |
| minute | frickler: btw did the new backplate help? | 21:33 |
| josch | minute: i'm just throwing ideas around. I do not have any particular complaint about your curl|sudo bash thing as a) you wrote a disclaimer and b) people should know what that means in 2025, no? ;) | 21:35 |
| minute | josch: i thought so... i was weighing the pros and cons of having to help people with various types of issues... ^^ | 21:36 |
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| josch | minute: I know you just ported all the rk3588 stuff to 6.13 but that is no more in experimental. A few days ago 6.14.3 got uploaded to experimental. So you might need to rebase your patches once again... | 23:37 |
| minute | josch: uh oh! thanks for the heads up! | 23:38 |
| josch | collabora seems to have a rockchip-v6.14 branch ready though | 23:38 |
| josch | and qcacld is broken on 6.14 as well due to 7a53af85d3bbdbe06cd47b81a6d99a04dc0a3963 | 23:39 |
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