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| josch_noreform | GTK 4.18 removed the GL renderer as part of a "spring cleaning": https://blog.gtk.org/2025/02/01/whats-new-in-gtk-winter-2025-edition/ | 17:57 |
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| josch_noreform | This makes clapper unusable on the imx8mq because it cannot do GLES 3.0+ | 17:58 |
| josch_noreform | "The old GL renderer has been removed. This may be unwelcome news for people stuck on very old drivers and hardware." | 17:59 |
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| minute | josch: sure this is not about gl vrs ngl? | 18:25 |
| minute | funky, no more x11 support in gtk5 :D | 18:25 |
| minute | josch: ah yeah, ngl requires at least gl core 3.2, but maybe it works anyway on imx8mq, did you check already? | 18:27 |
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| josch_noreform | minute: No luck with GSK_RENDERER=ngl either. If I read the code correctly, it's just a different name for the new opengl renderer. Software renderer works but turns the video into a slideshow. The code of the gl backend was completely dropped here: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/commit/af2aadbe9b4683b752eb2ee10776e36f3fd9f2a7 | 19:14 |
| josch_noreform | clapper upstream author recommends using the flatpak version which still builds with gtk before 4.18: https://github.com/Rafostar/clapper/issues/541 | 19:16 |
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| minute | josch_noreform: COGL_DRIVER=gles2 also not a thing anymore? | 19:20 |
| minute | josch_noreform: ah i see | 19:22 |
| minute | josch_noreform: export MESA_GLES_VERSION_OVERRIDE=3.2 and MESA_GLSL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=320? | 19:22 |
| minute | (or, GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=3.2 if GLES doesn't work) | 19:23 |
| josch_noreform | with the override it renders the first frame of the video and then quits with: MESA: error: Unhandled NIR tex type: 4 | 19:24 |
| josch_noreform | same result as before with COGL_DRIVER=gles2 and with GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=3.2 | 19:25 |
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| josch | I asked in #debian-gnome and understandably, gtk4 maintainers are not excited about the idea of re-enabling the gl backend at least for the Trixie release because it's a lot of code | 22:54 |
| josch | minute: do we want to build our own gtk4 with the gl backend re-enabled on the mntre.com CI? | 22:54 |
| josch | this "works": | 23:11 |
| josch | MESA_GLES_VERSION_OVERRIDE=3.2 MESA_GLSL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=320 GSK_RENDERER=cairo | 23:11 |
| josch | "works" as in: "it plays the video instead of immediately exiting" | 23:11 |
| josch | but it's a slideshow | 23:11 |
| josch | and looking at the cpu utilization it's probably just using a software renderer | 23:11 |
| minute | josch: well cairo is software renderer yeah | 23:19 |
| minute | josch: interesting @ tex type. maybe austriancoder can weigh in on this issue? | 23:20 |
| minute | i have trouble to believe that ngl cannot run on etnaviv with a few tweaks | 23:20 |
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| austriancoder | josch: do you know, which shader type (vertex or fragment) triggers this Unhandled NIR tex type error? | 23:36 |
| austriancoder | josch: I am going to install clapper and give it a try. maybe its easy to support it | 23:38 |
| josch | austriancoder: the important thing is not the clapper version but the gtk version you have installed. The error happens with gtk 4.18+ independent of the version of clapper | 23:38 |
| josch | (i just uploaded clapper 0.8.0 into unstable) | 23:39 |
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