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grimmwareI just rode past NXP Semiconductor!01:55
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andypiperDiscourse is down, known issue?10:00
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zehacan confirm10:26
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minuteandypiper: zeha: works for me atm11:25
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zehaworks now, ack12:04
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wickedshelljosch: sorry, I was basically completely out for a couple weeks moving, then work trips. I have not found anything else about needing to be in the proper group (nor had I looked into it). I've just left it with the changes as last discussed here and have been using it like that since then.18:10
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elektronreally liking my rcore RK3588 upgraded reform220:07
BoostisBetterreally looking forward to a new keyboard, backplate, and the RK upgrade for my Pocket Reform. Congrats on your upgrade! 20:09
ephaseelektron: how about CPU /GPU temperatures?20:11
elektron haven't really noticed anything bad?20:14
elektron`sensors` output indicates cpu/gpu around 47C and nvme around 45C20:15
elektronephase: something else to kep an eye on?20:15
ephaseno thanks, I like my a311d because balance batween temps/CPU power. Maybe I should upgrade to RK3588 because ram upgrade20:18
elektronthe bottom of the case is warm... don't remember how it compares to the original cpu, because I didn't use it as much then :-/20:22
ephaseon a daily basis, my CPU temp is around 50°20:27
ephaseIMX was 60°20:28
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BoostisBetterTo be honest I never really understood the appeal for the A311d. But options are a great thing! 20:51
minuteBoostisBetter: it is a lot faster incl better gpu compared to imx8mq/imx8mp and relatively cheap, that was the appeal20:57
ephaseBoostisBetter: cheaper than rk and more powerfull than imx21:04
BoostisBetterfor me the fact that it has less RAM is the deal breaker. 21:04
BoostisBetterimx8mp and rk are both better options to me. but I love that there are options. The A311d is also more affordable which is a good thing. 21:05
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minuteBoostisBetter: rk wasn't around then21:30
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BoostisBetterminute: sure, but I just meant that the speed difference between the imx and a311d wasn't significant enough to me to justify the loss of RAM. 21:40
minuteBoostisBetter: well, different people, different needs i guess21:44
minutears technica wrote this really horrible review of reform with imx8mq back in the days, lamenting the slowness of the imx8mq as the main issue21:45
minutelater, osnews reviewed a mnt reform with a311d and they didn't have that issue...21:45
minuteso, it was a very important module for us21:45
BoostisBetterminute: I wouldn't sweat Arstechnica. They are focusing on pretty much everything but technology these days. To look at the OG Reform and focus on performance is miss the point. A point that the Pocket and Next aren't forgetting. Couple more years and I don't think there will be any more compromises to go full OSS hardware and software, and that is something that is only possible because of effor21:48
BoostisBetterts like MNTs. 21:48
minuteBoostisBetter: sure, but you're preaching to the choir. it was important to recognize our weaknesses and improve.21:51
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BoostisBetterminute: I am not the biggest of OSS fans, but I have been very impressed with MNT's progress. I know what you mean with the preaching of the choir. 22:06
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minuteBoostisBetter: thanks for the support in any case!22:47
minutehttps://mastodon.social/@mntmn/11434393168253023322:47
minutei managed to get ye olde dsi->edp converter on reform mb to work with rk358822:48
sigridthat's amazing22:48
minutesigrid: glad you like it :D22:49
minutethere is one downside: it requires either removal of resistor R82 on the motherboard (it pulls down the TI chip's reset line... meh) or bodge a wire on rcore to connect this reset to a gpio, or let me make a new rcore rev (i need to order another 100 anyway). i mean, the adapters only22:51
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sigridyou're mentioning dsi/edp vs dp directly. what would be needed for direct dp, skipping dsi?22:54
reform6062wow, congratulations on having figured out how to drive classic reform without the hdmi adapter!!22:54
reform6062(josch from other machine here)22:55
minutereform6062: hehe!22:56
reform6062makes me look forward to my own rk3588 much more actcually :)22:56
minutesigrid: i'll look into it, it requires adding the DP drivers from the mailinglist to the patchstack and testing them22:56
sigridwould that be the least intrusive (from HW pov) way to display? :)22:57
sigridor would I still need to hold ti chip reset line22:57
minuteno, ti would be out of the picture. it would need another type of cable though22:57
minutesomething similar to the LS1028A eDP adapter22:57
sigridah ok, I guess which is going to be a replacement for the hdmi adapter, in a way22:58
minuteyes exactly22:58
sigridyeah. I'd get that one22:58
reform6062sigrid: what's your motivation for preferring dp?23:00
sigridabsence of any hdmi-related logic in 9front, probably the ease of developing a driver for this specific way too23:01
reform6062ooooh right i see!23:01
minutesigrid: i just checked, current rcore has a pair of DNP resistors for EDP_TX0_AUXN/EDP_TX0_AUXP that need to be swapped in against HDMI2_DDC_SDA/HDMI2_DDC_SCL23:05
minutethe other edp lines are muxed with the internal hdmi lanes23:05
sigridhmmmmm :/23:06
minuteso, rcore upgrade would be in order to make use of edp easily (_if_ it works)23:07
minuteheh, the dp core is analogix dp, i had that as a standalone chip for the fpga module...23:08
minutesigrid: i mean, i can definitely donate upgraded rcore adapters for 9front23:11
minutehttps://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-rockchip/list/?series=92359323:12
sigridI'm trying to figure out a way that most people would be able to go about that would work with 9front23:13
minutesigrid: i mean, if you make DSI work then it'll also work on pocket reform23:15
sigridyeah... I think dsi is going to be the way23:15
minuteand you'll have to write the VOP2 driver anyway23:15
minutei think it's not that terrible though, as one doesn't need all the features23:16
sigridyep. I would just need a framebuffer that gets onto the screen :)23:16
minuteit can do overlays and a lot of color formats and stuff https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/drivers/gpu/drm/rockchip/rockchip_drm_vop2.c23:18
sigridthis having a gpl or mit license definitely helps23:18
minuteoh, true23:20
minutethen there's phy-rockchip-samsung-dcphy.c for the dsi phy, but that's mostly a huge timing table23:21
minuteand then there's dw-mipi-dsi2-rockchip.c which is a bit more complicated23:23
sigridseems like it's doable23:27
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