2025-03-27.log

bkeyshairu: My suggestion would be to go with rk3588 my experience with a311d hasn't been the best00:16
hairuorly00:17
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hairubkeys: and just get a completely new SoM board altogether next upgrade?00:18
bkeysWell I daily drive my Reform, so I plan on using only the rk3588 when I get it00:18
hairui suppose rpi cm5 is fewer cores and less ram... i did mean it when i said i'm pretty poor though ;)00:18
joschthe a311d classic reform is my only computer and i don't have complaints00:18
hairubkeys: i would cross-compile gentoo if i got one, and i can easily watch netflix on my 4GB pi4b, so idk00:19
hairuhmmmm00:20
hairujosch: do you know if the adaptor board for compute module form factor will support cm5?00:20
joschhairu: i do not own any raspberry pi, no idea00:21
hairuok00:21
hairuwell even bananapi00:21
hairuseems like they follow the same standard, and i am hoping it'll stay the same for upgrade purposes00:22
hairui guess i should wait for minute to not be sleeping xD00:24
joschhairu: last mention i can find of the cm5 in the irc logs: https://mntre.com/reform-irc-logs/2024-11-12.log.html#t16:26:0800:26
minutei was in desktop reform rabbithole https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/11423129995260064500:27
joschwell worth it!00:30
joschi love the idea to make the side panels actual PCBs with components on them :D00:30
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hairujosch: ah i see, thanks00:42
hairui guess it remains to be seen then00:43
hairuwhether rcm4 carrier board can be used00:43
joschhairu: yes, somebody needs to do it and as far as i know, nobody has done it yet00:44
hairuok00:44
hairuwe shall see00:44
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minutethere's also radxa cm5 that should be tried with rcm401:03
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hairuvery interesting01:17
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BoostisBetterany Pocket Reform users here who don't frequent the MNT forum here that would mind commenting on this thread here: https://community.mnt.re/t/to-psuspend-or-not-to-psuspend-that-is-the-question/323314:40
BoostisBetterReally curious about how folks are using their Pockets as it relates to battery life. 14:40
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minutewhat's the standard way to add kernel parameters without serial etc? editing /etc/default/flash-kernel ?18:52
vagrantcif you're using flash-kernel ...18:52
vagrantcalternately /etc/flash-kernel/*.d possibly18:52
minuteah yes, i just tried it and it does work18:53
vagrantcif you're using u-boot-menu, then you use u-boot-menu mechanisms18:53
vagrantcand if you'r;e using grub ...18:53
vagrantcACTION so helpful18:54
vagrantc:)18:54
josch:D18:54
minute:D18:54
joschminute: I left a comment in /boot/boot.scr which answers your question18:54
josch"Default bootargs for Linux are set here and can be overwritten using LINUX_KERNEL_CMDLINE in /etc/default/flash-kernel or by setting ${bootargs} in u-boot itself via the setenv command."18:55
joschand a few lines below that:18:55
josch"Board-specific bootargs cannot be overwritten by above methods. If you really need to overwrite below lines, create /etc/flash-kernel/ubootenv.d/00reform2_ubootenv and fill it with what you would like to replace the contents of this file with."18:55
minutejosch: thx!18:57
vagrantcon the imx8mq mnt reform(2?) ... was u-boot generally shipped on the eMMC of just on the SD card?18:57
vagrantcsomeone asked how to test my work on guix and i am so on he rk3588 now i cannnot remember :)18:58
vagrantcon the eMMC or just on the SD card?18:58
vagrantci seem to recall getting to the point on the imx8mq where my /boot was on SD card, but my rootfs was on NVMe18:59
vagrantcbut forget where u-boot lived18:59
joschvagrantc: for imx8mq it's the DIP switch that selects where it reads u-boot from: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-handbook/-/issues/219:00
vagrantcoh yeah, this is ringing a bell.19:01
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vagrantcjosch: very helpful, as always! :)19:04
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gordon1minute: you can modify u-boot env to add a kernel params using fw_setenv from u-boot tools19:15
hramrachboot selection switches are awesome19:20
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joschhramrach: completely agreed. Though if i remember correctly, rk3588 tries both sd-card and emmc and prefers the former which i guess is the next best thing if you want to experiment or restore a soft-bricked system21:37
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BoostisBetterminute: would it be possible to get a firmware update that remembers the color of the RGB lighting, such that it isn't always purple when booting? 22:27
minuteyeah the reform kbd4 fw already has this (it remembers the color you set) so this code has to be ported22:32
minutebut first i have to fix a gazillion other more pressing things22:32
BoostisBetterminute: ok, that is good to hear. Totally understand that there is a lot on your plate right now!22:33
minutejosch: do you wanna hear a reform-tools story?22:34
joschminute: i cannot promise to read it right now though :)22:34
joschbut yes of course :D22:35
minutejosch: haha no worries. just before i forget22:35
minutejosch: i tested the Desktop Reform (rk3588) today and i had a fresh system on sd card. i put a 4TB ssd in the slot. after going into sway i launched reform-setup-encrypted-disk, and it was great! then it asked me something like, booting via emmc is the default, you wanna do that? and i was like, that's _exactly_ what i want. unfortunately then it failed because the emmc was not partitioned yet22:42
minutejosch: then i thought ok i'll run reform-emmc-bootstrap. and it did the right things! and everything worked beautifully22:42
minutejosch: sooo the only little hitch was that, instead of reform-setup-encrypted-disk just aborting/exiting, it could ask me if i wanna do tabula rasa on that emmc and run reform-emmc-bootstrap for me22:43
minutejosch: or, it currently prints out a bunch of commands that i should maybe run, but reform-emmc-bootstrap would have been the best suggestion i think22:44
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minutehmm hmm i wonder if i should attempt to unify pocket + big keyboard fw22:51
joschminute: was it the thing that happened after the question "Your /boot partition will be on eMMC by default. Do you want it on the SD-Card instead?"23:27
minutejosch: yes23:27
minutejosch: i have to say that in practice this issue will rarely happen. because we usually make sure that the emmc is partitioned23:28
joschright, but users might do funny things with their emmc, so better add something23:29
joschi think this should go into reform-boot-config because that's the component that tries to mount the first partition on emmc23:29
joschand then other scripts using reform-boot-config would automatically benefit as well23:30
minutejosch: oh yeah, sounds good23:37

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