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| BoostisBetter | minute: would it be possible to buy the Pocket Reform trackball pcb and housing seperately? | 15:47 |
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| BoostisBetter | minute: I think you might have made the absolute best mini trackball in the whole tech world. | 15:48 |
| minute | BoostisBetter: there's a plan to offer all kinds of parts soon! | 15:50 |
| BoostisBetter | minute: OK, for the umpc that i am making i would love to use one if possible. | 15:57 |
| minute | BoostisBetter: i see, but you'll need some way to control it over i2c, or we'll also need to make a little usb adapter thing | 15:58 |
| grimmware | Shouldn't be too much work to hook it up to a pi pico and rip the appropriate parts of the code from the keyboard firmware, right? | 16:12 |
| grimmware | I mean you could probably get away with just using the full keyboard firmware as long as you hook it up to the same pins? | 16:12 |
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| BoostisBetter | Yeah, I'll need to look into it more but there really isn't a smaller optical trackball anywhere. | 16:22 |
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| minute | since ath9k cards are EOL i'm planning to upgrade the default wifi for classic reform to intel ax210 wifi 6e | 17:37 |
| BoostisBetter | minute: I wrote you on the forum (DM) to better explain what I mean with the Pocket trackball. | 17:38 |
| [tj] | BoostisBetter: have you seen the ploopy nano trackball? | 17:40 |
| [tj] | it needs buttons | 17:40 |
| minute | some people here are already using intel wifi in reforms, no? | 17:40 |
| [tj] | I can put one in my pocket if I can find a suitable antenna | 17:41 |
| [tj] | I have 8 | 17:41 |
| minute | hmm pocket doesn't have the correct slot i think | 17:42 |
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| minute | these cards are m.2 a/e key | 17:43 |
| minute | (i'll ship mpcie -> a/e adapter for classic reform) | 17:43 |
| [tj] | what is the slot in the pocket? | 17:46 |
| minute | there's m key and b key (wwan) | 17:46 |
| gordon1 | >since ath9k cards are EOL i'm planning to upgrade the default wifi for classic reform to intel ax210 wifi 6e | 17:46 |
| gordon1 | i really hope you have some left for current orders... | 17:47 |
| minute | gordon1: we'll send everyone a mail to decide this. we still have our own stock at mouser that we can buy back | 17:47 |
| gordon1 | right, sounds good | 17:47 |
| minute | https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/MNT-Research/WIFI-MP80211N?qs=doiCPypUmgG1BqM3lGHUGg%3D%3D | 17:47 |
| minute | gordon1: you prefer the old ath9k card yes? | 17:48 |
| gordon1 | i do, yes | 17:48 |
| [tj] | I am told the 9k cards are popular in research | 17:49 |
| minute | gordon1: just ooc, why? no binary fw? or other reason? | 17:49 |
| gordon1 | i mean it's more about i had very bad experience with intel, and i had zero issues with ath9k so far, but the blob thing is definitely a plus | 17:50 |
| gordon1 | *blob absence | 17:50 |
| gordon1 | reform is a big leap for me into less familiar territory so i would prefer less variables to deal with | 17:52 |
| gordon1 | minute: but all-in-all it's not a biggie, i always can find one on ebay | 17:53 |
| minute | gordon1: ahhh interesting, can you tell more about the intel wifi issues? | 17:53 |
| gordon1 | minute: it was a while ago so my memory could be murky, but i had an issue with intel wifi and openwrt when first just was dropping connections occasionally, i started to happen just as i upgraded stock fw of my router (BT hub 5e iirc? or maybe it was 4e) to openwrt | 17:55 |
| gordon1 | i mean technically it might be openwrt issue not the intel one, but after moving to ath9k the issue was gone | 17:56 |
| minute | gordon1: ok interesting, thanks | 17:56 |
| [tj] | any idea when this was? | 17:56 |
| gordon1 | i would say more than 5 years ago | 17:57 |
| gordon1 | i still have a laptop and the router tho, not sure if i can find the wifi card | 17:57 |
| gordon1 | *the laptop | 17:58 |
| gordon1 | but i since updated openwrt multiple times | 17:58 |
| [tj] | there have been 50 firmware revisions | 17:59 |
| [tj] | (a guess) | 17:59 |
| minute | i have some cards incoming so will do multiple tests | 18:00 |
| hramrach | there were some problems with ax210 especially for AP use. I have an ax210 card for a couple of years or so, and it works as a client. Cannot bridge to it, though. Some feature is needed for that that the card does not have or is not working. | 18:17 |
| hramrach | a6:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6E(802.11ax) AX210/AX1675* 2x2 [Typhoon Peak] (rev 1a) | 18:18 |
| minute | hramrach: how is stability and speed as a client? | 18:18 |
| gordon1 | oh, so ax210 is wifi6 isn't it? | 18:19 |
| hramrach | I don't care about speed, there is usually bottleneck elsewhere. When it drops out it's more often than anything NetworkManager upgrade or AP problem. | 18:19 |
| minute | gordon1: wifi 6e | 18:19 |
| minute | gordon1: ax200 is wifi 6 | 18:20 |
| minute | hramrach: ok, i care because i have 1gbit/s internet at home | 18:20 |
| gordon1 | i tempted to give it a try, though if i had to guess i would say it probably will be more sensitive to random antenna placement inside a metal case | 18:20 |
| gordon1 | ACTION still thinking about options of drilling a case and routing antenna outside | 18:21 |
| gordon1 | my openwrt one has wifi6 that i do not utilize yet with my ath9k | 18:22 |
| gordon1 | maybe i can find ax210 card for my old thinkpad to give it a test run first | 18:23 |
| hramrach | This is with a standard antenna in display assembly, or wherever they put it thesse days | 18:23 |
| gordon1 | yeah, reform classic does not have that | 18:23 |
| hramrach | before that I used some ath9k and it would occasionally lock up on resume from suspend but suspend does not work on reform anyway | 18:27 |
| gordon1 | well, i hope hibernate would... | 18:27 |
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| sad_plan | is the pocket reform compatible with LiPO4 battiers? if thats even a thing in the formfactor being used. im under the impression that LiPO4 gives better batterylife, is this actually the case? | 18:34 |
| hramrach | also see this rabid hole around ax210 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35199440 | 18:41 |
| hramrach | looks like they have firmware that tries to guess a regulatory domain based on nearby wifi traffic rather than getting the info from the kernel | 18:49 |
| BoostisBetter | [tj]: yes, cool trackball but huge in comparison. | 18:49 |
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| minute | sad_plan: it's not compatible at the moment, could be tweaked though | 18:53 |
| sad_plan | is that something you could see come to fruition in the not too distant future aswell? :p I think i also read the the reform next now comes with this aswell? I know it was mentioned in the crowdsupply page, but it said nothing about it being set, yet anyway | 18:58 |
| sad_plan | right, i opened the page, and it says a switch, which kinda answers that I suppose :p | 18:58 |
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| minute | sad_plan: yeah for next the plan is to support both | 19:51 |
| minute | lifepo4 and liion | 19:51 |
| sad_plan | right | 20:00 |
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| vagrantc | josch: eesh. lost track of time on https://bugs.debian.org/1091979 | 21:22 |
| vagrantc | there were some more permutations i wanted to test and i found a system to test them on... | 21:22 |
| vagrantc | i marked that as serious to put a fire under me ... but clearly that failed | 21:26 |
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| hairu | hey again, still thinking very strongly about a purchase; i am reconsidering between rk3588 and a311d, because i am intrigued by upgrade options that come with the rcm4 adaptor board and as mentioned before i'm currently pretty poor... my biggest question is whether this adaptor board might already be compatible with cm5 modules? | 21:32 |
| hairu | i understand it might be unsupported while compatible, like with raspberry pi cm4... but unless something will definitely not work, i am not too worried | 21:34 |
| josch | vagrantc: i use the same strategy for bad bugs on my packages and fail just the same XD | 21:50 |
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