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| abortretryfail | josch: do you just ignore bug #1099655 for initramfs-tools? I've been holding off on updating because I don't have a SD card right now to fix it if it breaks. | 09:57 |
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| josch | abortretryfail: i was not aware of that bug and just read its messages. As I understand it, the problem is that the submitter of the bug is building their own kernel image and is not using the one from Debian. The Debian kernel should be able to boot just fine as it has set CONFIG_MODULE_DECOMPRESS=y | 10:01 |
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| abortretryfail | Huh that sounds silly | 10:09 |
| josch | abortretryfail: why? | 10:10 |
| abortretryfail | Building a kernel that can't decompress modules | 10:10 |
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| hramrach | It can only decompress one algorithm, anyway. kmod can decompress multiple when it has the support. It's not in any of the defconfigs, either. | 10:31 |
| hramrach | Also compressing the module when the intramfs is also compressed is wasteful, double compression increases size | 10:33 |
| josch | hramrach: i think it's fine to wish that Debian initramfs works even with self-built kernels. Though I also think that if your system fails when using a non-Debian kernel, that makes the initramfs-tools bug *not* RC severity but just normal severity. The question for the respective maintainers then becomes whether or not they want to support such kernels and it might not be much effort to check kernel | 10:39 |
| josch | support before building the initramfs. | 10:39 |
| hramrach | it's also silly that you cannot build module decompression for all compression algorithms the kernel is built with, only one | 10:53 |
| hramrach | this whole area is quite wonky, and any change is very likely to result in unbootable systems | 10:54 |
| josch | errr... i meant to address my last message to abortretryfail but indeed i also cannot say i disagree with you hramrach | 10:55 |
| abortretryfail | huh so kmod normally handles this, but the built-in support is only used by initramfs. | 11:17 |
| ch | #1099655 is useless imo | 11:27 |
| ch | there are other good reasons for initramfs-tools to not migrate to testing, but they shouldnt matter on laptops | 11:28 |
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| BoostisBetter | could someone tell me how to get my fonts back to default on the Pocket Reform? I installed and then purged sddm and now the font is double spaced and super annoying. | 15:54 |
| BoostisBetter | Any help would be greatly appreciated. | 15:54 |
| josch | BoostisBetter: you probably installed more fonts when you installed sddm. Have a look into /var/log/apt/history.txt to find out what got installed when you installed sddm | 15:58 |
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| BoostisBetter | and then just delete them? | 16:02 |
| josch | if you want to delete them, sure | 16:05 |
| BoostisBetter | but how would installing additional fonts mess up my default font? | 16:05 |
| BoostisBetter | I think upower was also installed. I think it messed up some config files. I just don't know which ones to look at. | 16:06 |
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| josch | if it messed up config files it will have told you | 16:06 |
| BoostisBetter | ok, installing sddm looks like it only removed pipewire audo and pipewire alsa which I just reinstalled. | 16:08 |
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| BoostisBetter | bah, so audio doesn't work, power settings are off, and fonts are all double spaced now. | 16:12 |
| BoostisBetter | You would think I would have learned along time ago. Stop messing around with a debian system that is running well. | 16:13 |
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| josch | BoostisBetter: or: do a backup before performing experiments | 16:15 |
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| vagrantc | whoah, there are various refomr-* packages in bona-fide debian! nice work! :) | 20:54 |
| vagrantc | reform-* | 20:54 |
| vagrantc | it is probably time to switch over to a trixie based setup ... | 20:59 |
| BoostisBetter | I was on trixie for a while, but I have to be honest. Stable is where it is at. | 21:04 |
| vagrantc | freeze and release is pretty much upon us over the coming months, and it is not my primary computer ... so trixie will be stable before too long and better to fix bugs now than be stuck with them for another release cycle :) | 21:10 |
| vagrantc | especially because it seems mnt/reform is on the path to integration :) | 21:11 |
| josch | vagrantc: you volunteer for upstreaming our linux patch stack? :D | 21:38 |
| vagrantc | josch: i admit it is tempting, though i have had trouble even finding the state-of-the-art patches | 21:43 |
| josch | vagrantc: i think easiest right now are the imx8mq patches | 21:44 |
| josch | vagrantc: i recently turned the dtb that the scripts just copied into a patch and the remaining difference is not much | 21:44 |
| vagrantc | ah, i've switched to rk3588, so will have limited enthusiam to swap hardward to test patches... | 21:44 |
| josch | hah :D | 21:44 |
| josch | i have to adjust my notes then! :) | 21:45 |
| vagrantc | but at any rate, really glad to see some packages landing in debian ... | 21:45 |
| josch | yes, i think the foundation is done | 21:46 |
| josch | now it just needs polishing everywhere | 21:46 |
| vagrantc | and now i know where to submit bug reports and patches :) | 21:47 |
| vagrantc | rather than just mumbling to myself on irc... | 21:47 |
| josch | :) | 21:47 |
| vagrantc | anyways, time to upgade to trixie and see if it still boots | 21:50 |
| vagrantc | and then maybe i can poke at that issue with u-boot-menu | 21:50 |
| josch | \*/ | 21:50 |
| vagrantc | so far i tested it on another machine but that was running bookworm ... probably good enough to sort the issue out, but ... | 21:51 |
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| josch | vagrantc: as brutal as it is, running bookworm had me ignore all the bugs. It was running unstable on BoostisBetter's Reform which made me get annoyed at all the bugs in unstable, resulting in the rather large-ish reform-tools 1.65 release... | 22:05 |
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| vagrantc | my head is spinning trying to sort out the u-boot-menu regression | 22:49 |
| vagrantc | josch: i have a two-line patch which i think works ... | 23:18 |
| vagrantc | josch: https://paste.debian.net/1362555 | 23:20 |
| vagrantc | not sure if it breaks anything, and it changes the behavior of U_BOOT_SYNC_DTBS=true slightly when flash-kernel is not installed ... but seems compatible | 23:20 |
| vagrantc | josch: submitted the patch to the bug and also pinged the mobian team irc channel, which might use this feature ... | 23:29 |
| vagrantc | also rebooting the mnt/reform rk3588 into trixie ... here's to hoping :) | 23:30 |
| vagrantc | i think i am still using the bookworm-backports reform2 kernel ... | 23:30 |
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