2025-03-05.log

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minutejosch: cool mod with the potentiometer. unsolicited advice: if you use magnet wire instead of stranded copper cable, you have less risk of ripping off smd pads, and also loose strands touching and shorting other stuff.01:00
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joschminute: duh i was not thinking of using magnet wire but that's a great idea, thank you!07:03
joschit needed a fix in our infrastructure (piuparts didn't like packages with the Protected:yes field) but reform-tools finally transitioned to testing and we're a step closer to having it in a stable release \o/07:06
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fricklerjosch: two comments from testing your new system-image so far: a) the greeter font is still the micro version (I patched that locally for me, not sure if there was an upstream patch yet)09:34
fricklerb) reform-check errors out when "apt update" hasn't been run, why doesn't it just run it itself?09:34
joschfrickler: thank you for your feedback! You are on a MNT Pocket Reform with RCORE RK3588 Module, right?09:35
fricklerjosch: yes. and with display v2 afaict09:35
joschfrickler: about the console font: there was an attempt to fix this via a postinst snippet which changes FONTFACE and FONTSIZE in /etc/default/console-setup09:37
joschin reform-system-image we have a sed snippet that does this:09:38
joschsed -i -e "s/^FONTFACE=.*/FONTFACE=/" -e "s/^FONTSIZE=.*/FONTSIZE=/" /etc/default/console-setup09:38
joschbut somehow this does not seem to have been effective?09:38
fricklerah, right, now I remember, that somehow didn't work out, I explicitly did put the font and size I want into my local setup09:38
joschfrickler: into uboot?09:38
fricklerno, just into /etc/default/console-setup on my nvme09:39
joschfrickler: okay but this is from a fresh system image09:40
joschand if the font is still tiny on that one, then something is amiss09:41
joschfrickler: can you check what setting FONTFACE and FONTSIZE are in your /etc/default/console-setup on the system image with the tiny font?09:41
fricklerhmm, let me double check, but I did flash a new system image to the sdcard09:41
joschand your /proc/cmdline should have fbcon=font:TER16x32 in it09:42
joschif it does not, reform-check should've complained09:42
frickleryes, I have both the cmdline entry and FONTFACE/SIZE empty09:42
joschhuh09:43
fricklernext thing: after running apt update reform-check complains about a lot of files differing, like: "??5??????  /usr/bin/reform-chat" and most other tools09:43
frickleralso some tools still are in /usr/sbin, didn't you say that those moved?09:43
joschch, hramrach: we have the fontsize problem again and even though u-boot sets fbcon=font:TER16x32 and even though FONTFACE and FONTSIZE are empty it's still present. See above.09:43
joschfrickler: the differences dpkg shows are because you installed reform-tools from git over the version that was installed from the package, so files naturally differ and dpkg doesn't like that09:44
fricklerhmm, actually apt policy shows reform-tools 1.68-1+reform from the mntre.com repo, maybe the image build didn't pick up your git version?09:45
joschfrickler: it did but how should apt know that you manually installed the version from git?09:46
fricklershouldn't that version have a different version string?09:46
joschfrickler: the system you are using first installed reform-tools 1.68-1+reform and *then* did a "sudo make install" for the version from git. So as far as apt is concerned, you have 1.68-1+reform installed.09:47
joschfrickler: the only way to tell apt "no i have another version" is to first build a debian package from the version in git09:47
fricklerjosch: ah, kind of a hacky build process, then, fine ;)09:49
joschfrickler: do you have an idea of how to improve this?09:50
joschfrickler: also, above you said that some tools are still in /usr/sbin -- which ones?09:51
fricklerjosch: well as you said, build a dpkg with a custom version that likely should include the git sha and install that, but I know that's easier said than done09:52
joschthe problem with that approach is, that we then duplicate the packaging again09:52
fricklerjosch: the only ones in /usr/bin are chat,check,compstat,handbook,help,pavucontrol09:53
joschwe cannot just copypaste the packaging scripts from Debian because new reform-tools versions will often (as it does now) require changes to the packaging09:53
joschfrickler: no, i mean which ones are in /usr/sbin. You said some are still in /usr/sbin09:54
fricklerjosch: yes, all others are in sbin, boot-config,config,display-config,emmc-bootstrap,flash-rescue,flash-uboot,hw-setup,mcu-tool,migrate,setup-encrypted-nvme,standby09:55
joschoh wow, that should not be happening09:56
joschwait, you did not list reform-setup-encrypted-disk -- is that by accident or is it actually there?09:57
josch*not there09:57
fricklerno, only reform-setup-encrypted-nvme09:58
joschaha!09:58
joschfrickler: do you recall from where you have the link to the artifacts you flashed?09:58
fricklerfrom the link you posted the other day, https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/jobs/781709:59
joschwhoops09:59
joschit should've been job 782309:59
joschlet me find where the old link is from09:59
joschfrickler: i can only find https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/jobs/782310:00
fricklerah, ok, let me retest then10:00
joschsee https://community.mnt.re/t/request-for-help-reform-tools-1-69-release/3154 and https://community.mnt.re/t/migration-from-i-mx8mplus-to-a311d/2317/4210:00
fricklerhmm, https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/jobs/7817/artifacts/file/pocket-reform-system-rk3588.img.gz still works it seems10:01
joschfrickler: what do you mean by "still works"?10:01
fricklerjosch: I could still download it. https://mntre.com/reform-irc-logs/2025-03-03.log.html#t15:22:38 is where I got this from10:02
fricklerbut anyway, let me go for the newer one now10:02
joschfrickler: yes, gitlab will only delete the artifacts on march 6 14:25 UTC10:03
joschfrickler: sorry, i forgot to post the updated link to IRC as well10:04
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joschfrickler: depending on how much time you have, you could also wait until i fixed the "apt update" problem and the fontsize problem and only test then10:05
fricklerjosch: btw. I use FONTFACE="DejaVu" and FONTSIZE="24x43", which may be a bit extreme for general use10:05
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fricklerjosch: ok, then I'll do some dayworking first and wait for a new build10:05
joschfrickler: the problem with picking a FONTSIZE in /etc/default/console-setup for the system image is, that those are also run on machines that are *not* the pocket reform and where the default font size is thus fine10:06
joschthis is also why i have a hard time testing these things :D10:06
fricklersomeone should sponsor you a pocket I guess :-)10:07
joschfrickler: too late, wickedshell already did exactly that XD10:08
josch(just waiting for MNT to ship it)10:09
josch <= afk10:10
fricklergotta tell minute to do some proper prioritization :D10:27
minutewell, the issue is we're waiting for rcore pcb restock.10:28
minutewe finally got pcba confirmation photos yesterday so then it's normally a matter of days...10:29
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fricklerah, ok. are these the same boards for pocket and classic btw?10:42
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[tj]minute: do you want my dead charger board for testing? my sister in law is visiting and can post from germany when she gets home which makes returning it really easy for me11:05
minute[tj]: when would that be approx?11:06
minutetoday we got the opportunity from mps to actually send in samples. i can wait a few days ofc11:06
minutefrickler: yes. and they're really popular :011:06
[tj]minute: she is here until next week, I think she would be able to post on the 14th11:07
minute[tj]: that's a bit late i think, alternatively we could make a ups label for you11:08
[tj]sure I can post it today11:09
gordon1minute: i noticed your poll a week ago mentioned ampere altra, did you take a look at it already? is it possible to do free schematics board with it or do you need to sell your soul and/or pull rk3588 option with adapter board?11:13
minutegordon1: i'm in contact with ampere, full custom oshw board seems possible but would be a longer r&d project. com-hpc with adlink module would be easier but apparently com-hpc might be incompatible with oshw (licensing stuff)11:17
gordon1righty, cool11:17
gordon1that's weird that com-hpc is what incompatible than the actual chip ifself11:18
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joschfrickler: i'd not like other customers to wait longer for their units because of me though :)11:22
hramrachfrickler: for me when the fon is not set console-setup does not change the font. Did that change with recent console-setup, or is something else changing it?11:23
[tj] minute I can post whenever I get a label, I've pulled it and packed it up. Its nice to get to recycle the mnt packing peanuts11:25
minute[tj]: awesome, i'm on the way to mnt hq and will make a label there11:26
fricklerhramrach: I need to check again, but iirc it is just unreadably small right from the start. so maybe the cmdline setting isn't really working. also TER16x32 is still too small for my eyes, but that may be a matter of taste or age11:26
minute[tj]: actually i need your sender address and email, maybe you can send me a quick mail to lukas@mntre.com11:27
joschhramrach: if you find some time, maybe you can flash the image from https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/jobs/7823 and check what fontsize you get. That image should have an empty FONTSIZE in /etc/default/console-setup11:27
[tj]minute: sent!11:28
grimmwareugh, great, just picked up my pocket and turned the screen back on and it's flickering11:29
joschgrimmware: with your change??11:29
grimmwarejosch: I also built with the more recent mesa patch that was in main11:30
joschoh wait, sorry i mixed up issues11:30
grimmwareI vaguely recall that was supposed to *stop* flickering which I never had before11:30
joschgrimmware: you updated to mesa from the MNT repos?11:30
grimmwareoh hang on, no11:31
joschgrimmware: what is your current mesa version?11:31
joschgrimmware: would be interesting to know if it also stops flickering for you11:31
grimmwareyeah that's a good point, let me check version before updating11:31
grimmwareI need to do a full-upgrade now I'm not worried about losing old kernel versions11:32
grimmwarehttps://paste.debian.net/1361444/11:34
grimmwarethat's just a dpkg -l | grep mesa11:34
grimmwaregonna do a full upgrade11:34
joschminute: for the flickering problem which we fixed by reverting a commit in mesa, we also got feedback from Diederik de Haas in Debian bug #1099032 who cannot reproduce this issue on Pine64 PineTab2 (rk3566) which also has an Arm Mali-G52 GPU and who suggests that the problem might come from an issue with our device tree which might be missing the "mali-supply" entry as recommended in 11:35
joschDocumentation/devicetree/bindings/gpu/arm,mali-bifrost.yaml. The fix might look something like https://paste.debian.net/hidden/99e8c06b/ but since I have no clue what I'm doing i have no idea which regulator to put there...11:35
joschgrimmware: this is odd11:35
joschgrimmware: with mesa 24.3.4-3 you should not see any flickering11:36
joschgrimmware: the flickering issue that we recently fixed by reverting a mesa commit (found by delanara) was found in mesa 25.0.011:36
joschgrimmware: there is a video in https://community.mnt.re/t/display-flickering-on-pocket-reform-related-to-mesa-25-0-0/3133/15 -- is that how your flickering looks like?11:37
minutegrimmware: josch: afaik flickering happens only on a311d with gnome?11:38
joschi had flickering on classic reform a311d also with sway11:38
minuteoh wow ok11:38
josch(just not as much as delanara on their pocket)11:38
minuteright, i forgot about that11:38
josch(maybe twice per minute)11:38
joschright, i forgot that grimmware has a rk3588 pocket reform11:39
joschso different issue11:39
grimmwareit's very gentle and only on grey backgrounds by the looks of things right now - I'll see how I get on after things like reboot and whether it recurs after upgrade. I'll report back11:42
minutegrimmware: it could be an oscillation in the panel11:45
minutegrimmware: these go away after like 30 minutes11:45
minutethis happens if panel is driven with wrong or no mode for a while11:46
fricklerhramrach: josch: ok, did some setfont checking, so the image is actually using the Ter32x16 font, I've just gotten so used to my larger font that it seemed still incredibly small to me. but the default font is even tinier, so the current state sure is some improvement11:54
joschokay i see, thank you for checking!11:55
chso is there an issue or not?11:55
joschch, hramrach: probably false alarm since frickler was used to having an even bigger font than what is now the default via u-boot11:56
fricklerwell it depends on whether you want to cater for old people with bad eyes by default, then you'd switch to an even larger font. but the setup does seem to be working as intended currently11:57
chthere's no larger font in the kernel, so excluding other points, its not possible11:58
frickleryes, you could only switch after booting by setting an even larger default in /etc/default/console-setup once again11:59
chsure, but switching mid-boot is terrible12:00
abortretryfailminute: re: magnet wire. What ho you use to strip the varnish? I've found the stuff is horrible to work with after winding a bunch of transformers for radio kits.12:07
abortretryfails/ho/do/12:07
grimmwareugh something fucky is happening, now it's not booting12:26
grimmwareI need to hook up serial again12:26
hramrachfrickler: We are limited to the fonts included in the kernel for the defaults. The setup was changed so that you *can* set custom font now, and it's not reverted to 32x16 by reform-tools.12:35
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hramrachAmybe reform-setup could offer font customization or something but the standard tools can be used now as well12:38
joschrelated is https://source.mnt.re/reform/mnt-reform-setup-wizard/-/issues/1812:40
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grimmwareokay I've got boot again, I've got a sneaking suspicion extlinux fucked me again12:58
grimmwareyeah what do you know it's dropped my device tree again12:58
grimmwarefuck sake12:59
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grimmwareyeah I left this landmine for myself13:03
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minute[tj]: you should have email with label now13:13
grimmwarejosch: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/merge_requests/114 I forgot to actually fix this in the repos so my change in /usr/share got clobbered on package update13:15
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grimmwareminute: either update or reboot has fixed the flicker, I think your theory is probably correct so there might be a subsequent kernel patch update that needs  doing to ensure that the right mode gets set. The behaviour of my patch is not *quite* the same as what the screen would do on return before (the backlight powers on blank and then the image returns) so I wouldn't be surprised if it is indeed running on the wrong mode 13:17
grimmwarefor a moment or something13:17
grimmwareat any rate I'll keep an eye on it13:17
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grimmwareheh, yeah there it is again after the screen coming back!13:39
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minutejosch: some input by daniels and kusma (mesa) on a311d flicker: the patch introduces AFBC, which is arm framebuffer compression. this feeds into the DSI controller, so it changes the way that the display is passed from the GPU to the display engine. it might be this triggers a bug in the DSI driver or engine and we would need to adjust the driver or some timings to fix it13:41
minutejosch: working AFBC would increase GPU performance on a311d.13:41
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joschminute: oh wow nice i just imagine i understood any of what you wrote XD14:17
joschbut i guess bottom line is, that it's likely not a dts fix14:17
joschi wish daniels and kusma had left that comment in the mesa issue tracker XD14:18
joschthe conversation happened on irc?14:18
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minutejosch: yeah panfrost channel on oftc14:25
minutejosch: narmstrong says > so, the way afbc has been integrated into A311D, means yes it can miss a vsync on load14:26
minuteso that's exactly what happens14:26
minuteit is _supposed_ to work at least > AFBC has been integrated and validated with the ARM mali blob, so I'm pretty sure it works fine :-)14:27
minutei guess to get afbc working we need to fiddle with dsi timings... nooo14:27
minuteuntil then we need to carry this revert patch14:27
abortretryfail:(14:30
[tj]minute: posted14:32
joschminute: thanks a lot for investigating this :)14:34
joschgrimmware: no, U_BOOT_FDT_DIR="/dtbs/" is no longer needed14:34
joschgrimmware: in fact i added a commit going the opposite direction: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/commit/2068a25bf78ca6497f65eec84b1e26a12cc8918914:35
joschgrimmware: reason is that i plan to press the merge button here: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/merge_requests/8614:36
minute[tj]: awesome thanks14:37
joschgrimmware: in #1091979, vagrantc put Arnaud into CC to fix this for good in Debian instead of reform-tools having to work around this14:38
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abortretryfailDoes MB 3.0 use the same LPC firmware code as 2.5?15:06
[tj]which lines in a usb-c cable are relevant for power? I got a cable tester and the cable I used when the charge controller died has everything connected apart from cc1 (and D+/D-) in 1 orientation which I think just the mechanics of the connector15:09
abortretryfail[tj]: The schematics are good for questions like that.15:13
abortretryfailWhat machine is it? Pocket Reform?15:13
[tj]I don't think the pd power negotiation is reform dependant15:15
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abortretryfailIt's not, but the schematics are still useful for that.15:18
abortretryfailcc1 and cc2 look like they are involved.15:18
minuteabortretryfail: there is updated fw for mb315:23
abortretryfailbuild.sh in the reform2-lpc-fw folder doesn't have anything about it. Is that on a separate branch?15:29
minuteabortretryfail: oh wow, looks like i didn't push that15:30
abortretryfailReasoning: I'm brainstorming an idea to use a FET and some extra resistors to have a switchable high/low supply current mode via the LTC4020's ILimit pin15:30
minuteabortretryfail: pushed15:31
abortretryfailThanks :)15:33
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abortretryfailhuh the only change is the #define CHARGE_SOFT_START 0?15:40
minuteabortretryfail: this is also relevant https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform/-/commit/e783e55d2e9a4b73989f6a490b2af959bc29223e15:55
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grimmwarejosch: ah okay legit. Do you know when you're gonna merge?16:39
abortretryfailOh, I think I'm running a version that has deep sleep. It takes a while to wake up sometimes, but it's not that bad tbh.17:07
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ch[tj]: cc1/cc2 are used for sensing and pd handshake17:16
[tj]yes, this I know17:16
[tj]I have read pd and found it very upsetting17:17
chaccurate17:17
[tj]but if we are looking for a root cause for the charger board ic exploding then its worth taking a holistic approach17:17
chpower is on vbus and gnd, imo17:17
[tj]sorry, was writing stuff for work17:17
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joschgrimmware: merged!17:25
joschgrimmware: thus, it will be in the MNT repos in 1.5 hours17:25
joschminute: could you enable gitlab CI for https://source.mnt.re/grimmware/reform-tools/ please? Thank you!17:30
chis the kernel change already merged or are there kernel packages to test?17:37
ch(for the display issue)17:37
minutech: there are even sd images to test!17:41
ch:)17:42
chi think i'd like to live dangerously and try it on my normal install17:42
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minutejosch: done!17:52
chah yes, disabling sleep did work, i remember that from c317:56
joschminute: thank you!17:56
joschis a311d ethernet known to not come up after a fresh boot sometimes?17:57
minutejosch: yep17:59
joschdo we have an issue open for that?18:00
minutei don't believe so18:01
joschi only notice now that i use an a311d as a media center18:01
joschminute: do you have a keyword for me with which i can maybe find past discussion about that in irc logs?18:01
minutejosch: not at the moment, sorry...18:01
joschno problem :)18:02
joschi'll search more later18:02
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joschbut i see getting ethernet to work in the first place was a massive struggle XD18:06
minuteoh yeah :D18:08
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grimmwareminute: looks like you were right, the flickering goes away after a while20:42
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minutegrimmware: yeah i kinda have a symbiotic relationship with these panels after all that time lol22:23
grimmwareI'm like, 0 surprised22:24
grimmwareI'll probably hit you up at some point for any intuition on where that might need to be fixed because it's a little bit jarring and it definitely didn't happen before22:25
grimmwareI mean realistically I probably need to check out a commit from back in November and stare at it for a while next to the current code but I am not an expert so any hints are greatly appreciated22:26
grimmwareHonestly so glad to have a platform that I love so much where I can contribute usefully, even if it's only through determination22:27
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joschfrickler: reform-check now has an --offline option and asks interactively if it should run "apt update" for you23:47

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