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| bluerise | minute: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-rockchip/CALWfF7KHagN=ef1C01PmmpfumdthBy6PKPi3U+9K+rgP8sNrOQ@mail.gmail.com/T/#u | 13:36 |
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| bluerise | wonder what I should answer to this | 13:36 |
| + aloo_shu_ (~aloo_shu@85.51.18.142) | 13:37 | |
| bluerise | should I update the brightness levels to whatever the other dts have? | 13:37 |
| + digitalrane (~digitalra@user/digitalrane) | 13:38 | |
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| + paperManu (~paperManu@107.159.71.33) | 13:41 | |
| josch | that reminds me: imx8mq-mnt-reform2.dts is already part of upstream linux but we still overwrite that with our own dts. The diff between them is quite large. Wasn't there some tool which normalizes/sorts/formats a dts? I'd like to minimize the differences while i still have the imx8mq at home... | 15:02 |
| minute | bluerise: interesting. more fine grained is better always | 15:12 |
| midfavila | josch wait you can use mainline kernels for the imx8mq now? | 15:14 |
| midfavila | since when was that a thing? | 15:14 |
| midfavila | or am i misunderstanding? | 15:14 |
| josch | midfavila: it somehow works but i forgot which things do not | 15:14 |
| josch | i think display wasn't working? i'll try again tonight | 15:14 |
| midfavila | aaaah | 15:14 |
| midfavila | well, if you get it to work fully on mainline lmk | 15:14 |
| midfavila | i'm (slowly) working on porting KISS to the reform again | 15:14 |
| midfavila | being able to use the standard kernel would be really nice | 15:15 |
| midfavila | now to get clockworkpi to release their sources in a way that's gpl compliant so that can get upstreamed... then i'll hopefully be able to settle all of my devices on the same kernel | 15:15 |
| midfavila | they're still using a fork of their OEM kernel which is like 5.4.xx | 15:16 |
| midfavila | and they ship full fat ubuntu on a friggin 1ghz riscv chip with 1gb of ddr3 | 15:17 |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~Thunderbi@h167.248.96.50.static.ip.windstream.net) | 15:19 | |
| hramrach | josch: the dtc has an option to sort the tree. With that you can take two trees, look at the differences. Adjusting the trees to not differe is a manual process. Due to extensive use of includes the trees may differ in order but not content | 15:19 |
| josch | ah it's dtc -s -- thank you! :) | 15:27 |
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| josch | midfavila: nope, does not boot with current upstream dts: https://mister-muffin.de/p/jzEI.txt | 20:46 |
| ch | doesnt seem that far away though | 20:48 |
| kfx | still can't believe the arm community managed to come up with a solution even worse than acpi. truly amazing | 20:52 |
| ch | conceptually its mostly the same. implementation however | 20:57 |
| ch | i imagine acpi would also be way worse if more vendors would be involved | 20:58 |
| josch | ch: yes, the diff is not that large: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/c163edc7/ | 21:03 |
| josch | i wish there was a way to not convert handle names into their addresses -- the diff mainly differs because of that | 21:03 |
| + ericsfraga (~user@2a00:23cc:b43d:4b00::3ce) | 21:11 | |
| ericsfraga | Good evening all. Friday I received my Pocket Reform. Having a blast with it. However, today, I installed gdm3 (to get X windows, not wayland). That was fine (issues with screen rotation). Anyway, I got greedy and installed lightdm as well as I prefer it to gdm3. Now I cannot get the system to log me in: it gets stuck before X windows starts with a blinking cursor in the top left corner. Is there any way to get a shell window (normally | 21:13 |
| ericsfraga | on X, I can A-C-F1 to get a console)? Thanks. | 21:13 |
| ericsfraga | Alternatively, is there any way to interrupt the boot process to not get to the point of starting the graphical display? | 21:18 |
| ericsfraga | Note that I can kill X by A-C-arrow-Backspace (equivalent to Alt-ctrl-delete) but that leads to a restart of X again, getting stuck in the same blinking cursor state. | 21:20 |
| ericsfraga | (arrow = bottom left key on keyboard) | 21:20 |
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| - cobra (QUIT: Ping timeout: 265 seconds) (~cobra@user/Cobra) | 21:24 | |
| hramrach | ericsfraga: if you are botting from SD card take it out, and disable the display manager service that starts X11. If not boot from a SD card and disable the service on the installed OS. | 21:42 |
| hramrach | normally you could also alter the kernel commandline to not start the service but it's difficult with the current state of u-boot unless using serial console | 21:42 |
| ericsfraga | Okay; I don't have any SD cards to top of the TODO list for tomorrow morning! | 21:43 |
| ericsfraga | Where is the best place to look for documentation on using an SD card (i.e. images etc.)? | 21:43 |
| hramrach | It should be in the manual, there are some forum posts as well | 21:44 |
| ericsfraga | *so top | 21:44 |
| ericsfraga | Okay, thanks! | 21:44 |
| kfx | specifically here https://mntre.com/documentation/pocket-reform-handbook/software.html#flashing-the-system-image | 21:45 |
| ericsfraga | Yeah, just reading that section! :-) | 21:45 |
| ericsfraga | I was sure I had an old 8 GB micro-SD card lying around but no such luck. Lots of full size SD cards, mind you. ;-) | 21:47 |
| ericsfraga | To clarify, it is not possible to type A-C-F1 to get a console from the graphical display? | 21:48 |
| ericsfraga | (i.e. with Arrow+1 as F1) | 21:48 |
| hramrach | if it can be killed it should be possible to switch to console as well | 21:49 |
| hramrach | but if it breaks console (which the blinking suggests) it may not be all that helpful | 21:49 |
| hramrach | *cursor | 21:50 |
| ericsfraga | It can be killed but seems to go into reboot process. | 21:50 |
| ericsfraga | There's no way to interrupt the boot process and have it land in a recovery mode? | 21:51 |
| + cobra (~cobra@user/Cobra) | 22:00 | |
| - gustav28 (QUIT: Quit: Quit) (~gustav@c-78-82-55-220.bbcust.telenor.se) | 22:15 | |
| mhoye | minute: Figured out the "not booting with a specific usb device" problem, looks like the answer is "this is a known problem with old uBoot, I need current uBoot". | 22:17 |
| + gustav28 (~gustav@c-78-82-55-220.bbcust.telenor.se) | 22:33 | |
| midfavila | ericsfraga: do you have access to the bootloader's prompt? | 22:37 |
| midfavila | like a grub menu or something? | 22:37 |
| midfavila | if so you can always edit it to use /bin/sh as init | 22:37 |
| midfavila | very carefully edit whatever files are controlling your X startup and reboot | 22:37 |
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| + vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50) | 22:52 | |
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| gsora | minute: for when you’re back, keyboard v4 manual links are 404ing: https://mntre.com/documentation/reform-standalone-keyboard-v4-manual.pdf | 23:16 |
| ch | ericsfraga: with defaults, you need to boot from an sd card to recover stuff. graphics in uboot will improve this, whenever ready | 23:30 |
| ch | ericsfraga: also i kinda doubt there is much x11 support | 23:30 |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@50.96.248.167) | 23:49 | |
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