| minute | josch: :0 | 00:25 |
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| josch | fix uploaded :) | 00:26 |
| - cobra (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~cobra@user/Cobra) | 00:53 | |
| - mtm (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~textual@47.202.75.129) | 01:03 | |
| + mtm (~textual@47.202.75.129) | 01:06 | |
| + _justin_kelly71 (~justinkel@user/justin-kelly/x-6011154) | 01:12 | |
| - colinsane (QUIT: Ping timeout: 272 seconds) (~colinunin@97-113-135-202.tukw.qwest.net) | 01:40 | |
| + colinsane (~colinunin@97-113-131-228.tukw.qwest.net) | 01:55 | |
| + aloo_shu_ (~aloo_shu@90.166.99.229) | 02:31 | |
| - aloo_shu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~aloo_shu@90.166.98.236) | 02:34 | |
| * aloo_shu_ -> aloo_shu | 02:34 | |
| - jacqueline (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~jacquelin@user/jacqueline) | 02:45 | |
| + jacqueline (~jacquelin@user/jacqueline) | 02:55 | |
| - kop316 (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (m-6f6zq6@static.138.159.90.157.clients.your-server.de) | 03:02 | |
| - mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 03:04 | |
| + kop316 (m-6f6zq6@static.138.159.90.157.clients.your-server.de) | 03:04 | |
| + aloo_shu_ (~aloo_shu@90.166.193.96) | 03:04 | |
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| - aloo_shu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 272 seconds) (~aloo_shu@90.166.99.229) | 03:08 | |
| * aloo_shu_ -> aloo_shu | 03:08 | |
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| + romi (bd30729973@user/romi) | 04:04 | |
| + robin_ (~robin@user/terpri) | 04:16 | |
| - robin__ (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~robin@user/terpri) | 04:18 | |
| + jacobk (~quassel@129.110.242.173) | 04:31 | |
| + robin__ (~robin@user/terpri) | 05:01 | |
| - robin_ (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~robin@user/terpri) | 05:03 | |
| - Ar|stote|is (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~linx@149.210.8.4) | 05:18 | |
| + jacqueline_ (~jacquelin@user/jacqueline) | 05:27 | |
| - jacqueline (QUIT: Ping timeout: 244 seconds) (~jacquelin@user/jacqueline) | 05:28 | |
| * jacqueline_ -> jacqueline | 05:28 | |
| + aloo_shu_ (~aloo_shu@90.166.193.238) | 05:37 | |
| - aloo_shu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~aloo_shu@90.166.193.96) | 05:40 | |
| * aloo_shu_ -> aloo_shu | 05:40 | |
| - aloo_shu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~aloo_shu@90.166.193.238) | 05:45 | |
| - antti (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~antti@user/antti) | 05:49 | |
| + antti (~antti@user/antti) | 05:51 | |
| - jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~quassel@129.110.242.173) | 06:28 | |
| + mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 07:12 | |
| violet | messing around with doing my own linux install on the pocket | 07:27 |
| violet | i have the system booted all nicely from the microSD. but the display is kinda wonky, it seems like the top of the screen is not at the top and is in the middle, and the bottom of the screen wraps back around to the top | 07:28 |
| violet | and the text on the very left wraps over to the right o.o | 07:28 |
| violet | i have fbcon=rotate:3 but maybe thats not enough | 07:28 |
| violet | its always displays with me | 07:29 |
| violet | oh the colors are also color shifted over by one channel, (green -> blue, blue -> red, red -> green), that's a clue | 07:51 |
| - mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 08:07 | |
| - hairu (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (m-uotkmd@user/hairu) | 08:13 | |
| + hairu (m-uotkmd@user/hairu) | 08:14 | |
| violet | ok i can fix it by starting sway, and then exiting sway again | 08:17 |
| + cobra (~cobra@user/Cobra) | 08:17 | |
| violet | when i start sway, sway is broken just like the console. but then when i exit the console is fixed, and if i start sway a second time it works fine too | 08:18 |
| violet | weeeird | 08:18 |
| violet | it looks like somewhere along the way of starting sway and exiting again, in the kernel i see "panel-mnt-pocket-reform 32e60000.dsi.0: [display] init in enable..." | 08:23 |
| violet | but that also happens much earlier, during bootup | 08:23 |
| violet | so maybe something is causing it to re-initialize and the second time it works for some reason | 08:23 |
| - cobra (QUIT: Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) (~cobra@user/Cobra) | 09:11 | |
| + cobra (~cobra@user/Cobra) | 09:16 | |
| violet | i notice on the official image it says that "init in enable..." thing twice also. but it is 2 seconds apart. so i wonder why mine, the second one only happens after i start and close sway | 09:22 |
| violet | also on official image it reads register 12a = 0x77. on mine it reads 12a = 0x70 | 09:22 |
| + Ar|stote|is (~linx@149.210.13.214) | 09:28 | |
| ch | iirc this register changes if you boot cold / warm | 09:41 |
| yqshao | keyboard manual links dead at https://mntre.com/docs-reform.html , looks like the filenames have an extra/missing "-standalone" in them | 09:48 |
| violet | ch: oh i think you are right, i just did a cold boot and that reg said 0x77 on my image | 09:53 |
| violet | same behavior either way so i dont think it is related | 09:53 |
| + aloo_shu (~aloo_shu@90.166.193.135) | 10:13 | |
| frickler | I had a weird effect on my new pocket, on initial startup the display had some flickering white vertical stripes almost like northern lights. I went through the initial setup anyway and after like 5 minutes the display went fine and has been since | 10:21 |
| frickler | also the nvme ssd doesn't show up in lsblk, do I need to do something special in order to activate it? | 10:22 |
| ch | hmm, can you see it in lspci? iirc there's nothing special tod o | 10:23 |
| frickler | ch: lspci only shows a single line with the PCI bridge, which also seems a bit weird I guess | 10:27 |
| frickler | rk3588 board fwiw | 10:28 |
| frickler | it also seems like it doesn't include the new firmware with better PD support yet? battery stays around 10% | 10:30 |
| + aloo_shu_ (~aloo_shu@85.51.16.41) | 10:30 | |
| - aloo_shu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~aloo_shu@90.166.193.135) | 10:33 | |
| * aloo_shu_ -> aloo_shu | 10:33 | |
| ch | certainly possible, but should be easy to check | 10:34 |
| frickler | ok, I give up on trying to scan the backlog, what was the command to check the firmware version and which one should one currently install? | 11:35 |
| - colinsane (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~colinunin@97-113-131-228.tukw.qwest.net) | 11:45 | |
| hramrach | there is fwupdate or somesuch | 11:54 |
| + colinsane (~colinunin@97-113-133-107.tukw.qwest.net) | 11:59 | |
| - colinsane (QUIT: Client Quit) (~colinunin@97-113-133-107.tukw.qwest.net) | 12:00 | |
| + aloo_shu_ (~aloo_shu@90.166.98.254) | 12:02 | |
| - aloo_shu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~aloo_shu@85.51.16.41) | 12:05 | |
| * aloo_shu_ -> aloo_shu | 12:05 | |
| + mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 12:15 | |
| ch | the oled menu can show you the version | 12:20 |
| ch | https://source.mnt.re/reform/pocket-reform/-/jobs/7412/artifacts/browse has the current fw, and update scripts if your old fw is too old to use fwupdmgr/fwupdtool | 12:22 |
| frickler | PREF1{SYSR1,HID}20250117 does sound newer or at least not older | 12:58 |
| minute | frickler: aha, you have a display v2! one of the first ones to show up here | 12:59 |
| minute | frickler: northern lights effect is known but afaik it only happens at the first cold boot, unclear why yet, maybe the backlight adapter flex pcb's backlight dcdc isn't immediately stable | 13:00 |
| - mtm (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~textual@47.202.75.129) | 13:02 | |
| + gustav28 (~gustav@c-92-32-81-6.bbcust.telenor.se) | 13:02 | |
| + mtm (~textual@47.202.75.129) | 13:05 | |
| - arminweigl (QUIT: Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (~arminweig@sourcehut/user/arminweigl) | 13:13 | |
| + arminweigl (~arminweig@sourcehut/user/arminweigl) | 13:14 | |
| frickler | minute: cool effect to boost my heart rate, yes ;-) especially after I was really struggling with how to stow away the display cable, seems there is much less space with the new board than what the install guide shows | 13:27 |
| frickler | btw. sorting the parts into numbered bags was really helpful, but it would work even better when the install guide mentioned when to open which bag | 13:29 |
| frickler | (also don't read this as if I'm only complaining, I really liked the experience so far, just trying to give hints for possible improvements) | 13:30 |
| frickler | well I don't like the SSD not showing up, anything I can check before I open up the case again to double-check I installed it correctly? | 13:31 |
| - mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 13:32 | |
| - L29Ah (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) | 13:39 | |
| + L29Ah (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) | 14:00 | |
| - paperManu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 272 seconds) (~paperManu@107.159.71.33) | 14:14 | |
| + aloo_shu_ (~aloo_shu@85.51.16.243) | 14:20 | |
| - aloo_shu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~aloo_shu@90.166.98.254) | 14:23 | |
| * aloo_shu_ -> aloo_shu | 14:23 | |
| + ericsfraga (~user@2a00:23cc:b43d:4b00::3ce) | 14:29 | |
| + mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 14:39 | |
| - anzu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~anzu@melkinkari.cs.helsinki.fi) | 14:49 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 15:14 | |
| minute | frickler: ssd normally "should just work", did we ship you one or you brought your own? | 15:26 |
| irimi1 | hi! i’m having trouble with the pocket reform’s wifi and could use some pointers maybe. | 15:34 |
| irimi1 | i got myself the wifi card from the MNTRE shop to use with my i.MX8M Plus. i remember i found some mounting instructions for the card, but nothing regarding the software. do i need to install/remove specific drivers? is there a quick way to check whether it was recognized etc? | 15:34 |
| irimi1 | i’m basically asking for the first 2-3 pocket-reform-specific wifi troubleshooting steps ^^ | 15:35 |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Quit: With every step we take, danger will follow closely) (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 15:38 | |
| frickler | minute: one you shipped, was still in original packaging it seems, so likely you didn't test it, either. I think I have a spare one though I can crosscheck against | 15:38 |
| + bkeys1 (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 15:38 | |
| frickler | irimi1: iiuc no driver should be needed, you can check whether "lsusb | grep Wireless" shows the adapter | 15:40 |
| * bkeys1 -> bkeys | 15:41 | |
| + aloo_shu_ (~aloo_shu@85.51.16.9) | 15:53 | |
| - aloo_shu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~aloo_shu@85.51.16.243) | 15:56 | |
| * aloo_shu_ -> aloo_shu | 15:56 | |
| irimi1 | frickler: thanks, i’ll get back once i did that (don’t have the reform in front of me rn) | 15:59 |
| frickler | checking the tag for 20250117, the commit sha seems to match the version in the 7412 artifacts, so to me this sounds like that's the newest fw alright | 16:30 |
| + aloo_shu_ (~aloo_shu@85.51.17.69) | 17:56 | |
| - aloo_shu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~aloo_shu@85.51.16.9) | 17:58 | |
| * aloo_shu_ -> aloo_shu | 17:58 | |
| minute | frickler: how many TBs did we ship? | 18:12 |
| - BoostisBetter (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (4a410829d7@irc.cheogram.com) | 18:32 | |
| - SavagePeanut (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (59eaa45ac7@irc.cheogram.com) | 18:33 | |
| frickler | minute: 1TB taifast. the good news is that my wd black 2TB is working just fine (at least gets detected, didn't write to it). swapped back to your card - still no cigar, so I guess I'll need to return it | 18:43 |
| frickler | more questions: I'm seeing about 0.4V difference between the battery readings in the oled, is there a way to level them (without extra hardware)? also, what are the expected voltages for a full and empty battery? | 18:44 |
| minute | frickler: oof, sorry for that... we can refund it of course | 18:46 |
| minute | frickler: there is balancing built-in, it'll just take some time (maybe a few days) | 18:47 |
| minute | frickler: in general it's recommended to charge as much as it accepts and then let it run to zero % once until it turns off by itself | 18:48 |
| minute | frickler: but congrats, i think you're the first DIY pocket customer i've heard from | 18:48 |
| frickler | nice, so everyone else got theirs prebuilt? I'd have expected most ppl to prefer the diy option | 18:52 |
| + SavagePeanut (59eaa45ac7@irc.cheogram.com) | 18:52 | |
| minute | frickler: no it's just that we shipped the first DIY batch ever last week | 18:56 |
| minute | frickler: and i haven't heard from other people completing a build yet | 18:57 |
| minute | frickler: on crowd supply we didn't offer a DIY option | 18:57 |
| + aloo_shu_ (~aloo_shu@90.166.99.65) | 18:58 | |
| - aloo_shu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~aloo_shu@85.51.17.69) | 19:01 | |
| * aloo_shu_ -> aloo_shu | 19:01 | |
| minute | josch: turns out the ls1028a edp display actually works with your latest cdns patchset. it's just the customer's ls1028a module that is broken | 19:02 |
| frickler | minute: oh and there I was thinking I was late to the party ;) | 19:05 |
| + vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50) | 19:07 | |
| - mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 19:14 | |
| + aloo_shu_ (~aloo_shu@90.166.99.177) | 19:31 | |
| - aloo_shu (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~aloo_shu@90.166.99.65) | 19:33 | |
| * aloo_shu_ -> aloo_shu | 19:33 | |
| + mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 19:39 | |
| + aloo_shu_ (~aloo_shu@85.51.16.73) | 19:49 | |
| - wickedshell (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~wickedshe@2601:8c0:800:4baa:754:4ebd:853e:3e76) | 19:51 | |
| - aloo_shu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~aloo_shu@90.166.99.177) | 19:52 | |
| * aloo_shu_ -> aloo_shu | 19:52 | |
| frickler | reform-setup-encrypted-nvme chained into reform-migrate left the system unbootable :( guess I got to find an sdcard to investigate | 19:59 |
| josch | minute: wow o0 | 19:59 |
| josch | well, at least the display issue is fixed then XD | 20:00 |
| josch | frickler: what exactly did you do to trigger the problem? I'd like to try and reproduce it here. | 20:01 |
| frickler | josch: well just run "sudo reform-setup-encrypted-nvme", type "y\nyes", read the text more carefully, giggle, type "y\nYES...etc" and then reboot. on boot it waits for a bit and then drops into the initramfs shell | 20:05 |
| + aloo_shu_ (~aloo_shu@90.166.99.172) | 20:06 | |
| - aloo_shu (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~aloo_shu@85.51.16.73) | 20:08 | |
| * aloo_shu_ -> aloo_shu | 20:08 | |
| josch | frickler: whoops, that is *not* supposed to happen, sorry for that | 20:11 |
| josch | frickler: what made you giggle? | 20:11 |
| frickler | josch: well I just read "Are you sure? (Type 'yes' ..." and typed "yes" the first time ;) | 20:14 |
| josch | ah but it tells you to write 'yes' in capital letters :) | 20:14 |
| josch | okay, i'm running it right now, i type y, then YES, then i enter the password for the encrypted drive | 20:15 |
| josch | then when asked if it should run reform-migrate, you also say "y", correct? | 20:15 |
| frickler | yes | 20:15 |
| minute | frickler: is the nvme detected, can you see that in the initramfs? `dmesg | grep -i nvme` perhaps | 20:17 |
| frickler | couple of warnings from cryptsetup after that | 20:17 |
| frickler | minute: I need to check, give me a couple of minutes. oh, I did the whole thing via ssh if that matters, I can paste the complete log somewhere if it helps | 20:18 |
| josch | i don't think it matters | 20:19 |
| josch | but... | 20:19 |
| josch | you say your ssd was not detected? | 20:19 |
| josch | now i wonder how the script proceeded o0 | 20:19 |
| frickler | josch: no, that was your (mnt's) ssd that was not detected, I'm running with my own ssd now | 20:19 |
| josch | ah okay :) | 20:19 |
| josch | frickler: then is the question where you want your /boot -- did you choose sd-card or emmc? | 20:22 |
| frickler | josch: I chose emmc as I don't have a sd-card inserted currently | 20:25 |
| frickler | btw. the nvme is detected and I can run cryptsetup and then the vg becomes active | 20:26 |
| josch | okay, then let me select "N" here (the default) | 20:26 |
| frickler | next is the warning about /dev/mmcblk0p1 still being mounted | 20:27 |
| josch | but then you didn't run this script from a system running on sd-card? | 20:29 |
| frickler | no | 20:29 |
| josch | your system is running from emmc? | 20:29 |
| frickler | well ... it was, but yes? | 20:30 |
| josch | right, this has come up in the past | 20:30 |
| josch | the question is: should running reform-setup-encrypted-nvme trash your /boot or not | 20:31 |
| josch | it currently does not which means that you cannot destroy your currently running setup | 20:31 |
| josch | one could argue that it should just wipe the first partition on emmc or sd-card (whichever was chosen) at the cost of making the current system unbootable | 20:32 |
| josch | the question is if that is what the user running the script expects to happen | 20:32 |
| josch | minute: what is your feeling about the above? | 20:32 |
| frickler | well that was what I did expect to happen and that is also what the script's output made me assume it does | 20:33 |
| - Gooberpatrol_66 (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 20:39 | |
| frickler | josch: regardless of whether this should have happened, do you have an idea for fixing this or should I set up an sd-card? | 20:43 |
| - achasen (QUIT: Quit: Leaving) (~achasen@2600:1700:e70:7f90:a26b:a12d:71d:c771) | 21:09 | |
| + aloo_shu_ (~aloo_shu@90.166.193.158) | 21:09 | |
| - aloo_shu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~aloo_shu@90.166.99.172) | 21:12 | |
| * aloo_shu_ -> aloo_shu | 21:12 | |
| minute | josch: hmm not sure if i can think my way so quickly into this... ah wait you mean if /boot is already mounted on the device that we're trying to migrate the /boot for the nvme to...? | 21:22 |
| frickler | yes | 21:24 |
| frickler | fyi this is the log I have, looked like everything had worked fine https://paste.opendev.org/show/bMRvhwTSUH1Aq6GPQpSX/ | 21:28 |
| + Gooberpatrol66 (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 21:43 | |
| + wickedshell (~wickedshe@2601:8c0:800:4baa:f22d:cf1d:4ecc:80c5) | 21:57 | |
| josch | minute: that's part of it yes | 22:00 |
| josch | minute: another connected topic is, even with /boot not mounted, it might contain other kernel images | 22:00 |
| josch | and that will lead to update-initramfs and flash-kernel and u-boot-menu doing the wrong thing | 22:01 |
| josch | for example, they will create boot entries for kernels that are not even installed anymore | 22:01 |
| josch | frickler: the easiest way to fix things is to do that from an sd-card | 22:04 |
| josch | frickler: did you have anything important in your system on emmc or would you be fine with re-creating things from scratch? | 22:04 |
| josch | frickler: thank you for your paste, that is really useful to track down what is going on | 22:05 |
| josch | here is the problem: | 22:05 |
| josch | Ignoring old or unknown version 6.12.6-mnt-reform-arm64 (latest is 6.12.12-mnt-reform-arm64) | 22:05 |
| josch | that's precisely the problem of: your partition already contained another kernel | 22:05 |
| frickler | josch: I booted from sd now, but I'm also done for today. if you come up with a fix, I'm happy to test again, no important data. and yes, I did an apt update+upgrade earlier, that might explain the kernel mismatch | 22:12 |
| josch | minute: i have some more thinking to do and it might be best if i write down a proposal first that we can then discuss. This is also in the light of the reform-setup-wizard potentially running reform-setup-encrypted-nvme in the future | 22:12 |
| minute | josch: cool | 22:12 |
| josch | frickler: thank you, that would perfectly explain things | 22:12 |
| - gustav28 (QUIT: Quit: Quit) (~gustav@c-92-32-81-6.bbcust.telenor.se) | 22:15 | |
| + paperManu (~paperManu@107.159.71.33) | 22:49 | |
| josch | frickler: you found an even worse bug! o0 | 22:50 |
| josch | thank you for reporting it <3 | 22:50 |
| josch | fixing now... | 22:50 |
| + aloo_shu_ (~aloo_shu@90.166.193.108) | 22:57 | |
| josch | ch: "blkid -s UUID -o value /dev/nvme0n1" gives me the UUID for /dev/nvme0n1 only but "lsblk --noheadings --output=UUID /dev/nvme0n1" gives me the UUID not only for /dev/nvme0n1 but also for luks or lvm partitions inside of it | 22:57 |
| josch | ch: how do i tell lsblk to not output more than what i asked for? | 22:57 |
| josch | hah --nodeps | 22:58 |
| josch | thank you for rubber ducking :) | 22:58 |
| - aloo_shu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~aloo_shu@90.166.193.158) | 22:59 | |
| * aloo_shu_ -> aloo_shu | 22:59 | |
| - _justin_kelly71 (QUIT: Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat) (~justinkel@user/justin-kelly/x-6011154) | 23:03 | |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Quit: With every step we take, danger will follow closely) (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 23:03 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 23:04 | |
| + _justin_kelly71 (~justinkel@user/justin-kelly/x-6011154) | 23:07 | |
| ch | yw | 23:07 |
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