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| gordon1 | minute: if that's not trade a secret, what is the reasoning behind using all battery cells in series instead of 3x2 or 2x3 configuration? | 11:00 |
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| minute | gordon1: i wasn't sure how to balance parallel cells i think | 11:04 |
| gordon1 | right, in old laptop batteries usually nobody bothers but i'm not sure if that is suboptimal | 11:06 |
| L29Ah | that is good enough | 11:12 |
| L29Ah | complicated setups would be needed if you have really old and brand new cells in parallel, or to catch a faulty cell early, but not in a typical case of them originating from the same batch | 11:14 |
| L29Ah | and you get all of the energy from them, unlike a sequential setup where you get the energy of the worst cell times the number of cells | 11:15 |
| gordon1 | well, unless they cannot supply enough current, but that shouldn't be a problem in case of laptop i guess | 11:17 |
| amospalla | I'm trying to downgrade my pocket reform sysctl which is currently on a recent commit. When I do `reform-mcu-tool bootsel pocket-sysctl-1.0` the pocket shuts down, is that expected? | 11:49 |
| amospalla | I'm trying to chase the glitch where the sysctl reports 0% battery to upowerd, and want to flash firmwares until I find where it started to happen. | 11:50 |
| L29Ah | even low-current 18650s specify 5A discharge these days | 11:52 |
| amospalla | IIRC on a previous sysctl firmware commit, I needed to put it in bootsel mode with reform-mcu-tool and then I could flash, but it did not shut down the computer. | 11:53 |
| minute | amospalla: what's your current sysctl fw rev? | 11:59 |
| amospalla | minute: 7316, both sysctl and keyboard | 12:00 |
| amospalla | 2ab0d3a | 12:00 |
| amospalla | I confirmed on this one that it happens (on my pocket), and I know how to reproduce this. Now I want to check if the 5694 version, the August one doesn't exhibit it. I had the 5694 until a couple of weeks ago and I don't remember my pocket shutting down with still battery left. | 12:07 |
| minute | hmm i have a98e2bd | 12:39 |
| minute | lets see | 12:39 |
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| minute | amospalla: aahhh you have the bad one | 12:40 |
| minute | amospalla: luckily i have something for you | 12:41 |
| minute | amospalla: here you go https://community.mnt.re/t/unable-to-charge/2929/29 | 12:41 |
| amospalla | xD | 12:42 |
| amospalla | ok, let's see | 12:42 |
| amospalla | I'm on Debian/Stable, should do this all within a sdcard with unstable? | 12:51 |
| L29Ah | gordon1: seems like the proper reasons for a serial connection would be reduced conversion losses and expenses (given the output voltage of the battery is near the desired input voltage of your load) and damage control in case of a shorted cell (so that healthy cells in parallel won't explode it) | 12:52 |
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| minute | amospalla: ah yes, you need a current version of fwupd | 13:10 |
| minute | amospalla: microsd probably the easiest way | 13:10 |
| minute | amospalla: actually you can also use picotool and the uf2 instead | 13:11 |
| minute | amospalla: but yeah not to mess with your kernel install, microsd is cleaner | 13:11 |
| amospalla | I'm trying from a sdcard first | 13:12 |
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| amospalla | minute: something is not working for me, got this https://paste.debian.net/1345989/ | 14:18 |
| minute | amospalla: fwupd version? | 14:19 |
| amospalla | minute: 1.8.12-2 | 14:19 |
| minute | amospalla: that's way too old... | 14:20 |
| minute | amospalla: should be 2.03-3 | 14:20 |
| minute | 2.0.3-3 | 14:20 |
| amospalla | oh wait, I am using Debian/Stable on my microsd :S | 14:20 |
| amospalla | sorry. | 14:20 |
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| amospalla | minute: how is the picotool/uf2 method done? | 14:34 |
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| minute | amospalla: after reform-mcu-tool, use picotool load sysctl.uf2 | 15:06 |
| minute | amospalla: and then probably picotool reboot | 15:06 |
| amospalla | ah yes, but I can't use reform-mcu-tool, after I run "bootsel ..." pocket shuts down. | 15:07 |
| minute | amospalla: yeah you can't just skip the other steps before that... | 15:07 |
| amospalla | I guess this is why I am trying this other method right now. | 15:07 |
| amospalla | what do you mean? | 15:07 |
| amospalla | with skip other steps before that? | 15:08 |
| minute | amospalla: well the steps in my guide | 15:08 |
| minute | amospalla: like, installing the updated reform2-lpc-dkms, and setting the brightness to 0 there | 15:08 |
| minute | in sysfs | 15:08 |
| amospalla | I see, ok. | 15:08 |
| minute | amospalla: that will prevent the reboot | 15:08 |
| minute | amospalla: you can first check if you already have the /sys/bus/spi/drivers/reform2_lpc/spi1.0/brightness | 15:09 |
| minute | amospalla: then you don't need to update the driver | 15:09 |
| amospalla | my Debian/Stable has the brightness file, I can try setting it to zero (it was already set to zero) and reform-mcu-tool again. | 15:09 |
| minute | amospalla: yeah reading it is not implemented and will always return 0. | 15:09 |
| amospalla | Ok. Also, I have the brightness file because I manually installed the .deb file on your guide. | 15:10 |
| amospalla | yay, got it, thank you minute ! | 15:12 |
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| minute | amospalla: glad to hear! | 15:20 |
| amospalla | I'll continue testing the battery/upower thing. | 15:20 |
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| amospalla | minute: now, that ai applied with the August firmware (20240730normal) it doesn't charge with any of the cargers it has always charged. The red light goes on and amps show -0.02 or -0.03 amps. | 15:27 |
| minute | amospalla: why not install the current firmware? | 15:28 |
| amospalla | I want to test firmwares to find when the glitch where the battery reports 0% of battery, and thus upower initiates a shutdown. | 15:29 |
| amospalla | But it seems now I can't, so I'll upgrade to latest. | 15:30 |
| amospalla | *when the glitch started* | 15:31 |
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| amospalla | minute: would that be useful to solve that glitch? | 15:40 |
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| gordon1 | Rei | 15:53 |
| gordon1 | oops | 15:53 |
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