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| BoostisBetter | minute: I am happy to report that the latest kb firmware from you has seem a need for manual reseting disappear. I mean it is still a little early for that but I feel like it has greatly improved. I used to have to do it 3 to 4 times a day, and now I have not had to do that for the last 2 days | 12:29 |
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| minute | BoostisBetter: great | 13:00 |
| BoostisBetter | minute: it does reset sometimes and says that it has been reset by the watchdog (Tina). But this is what we want and it appears to be working well. | 13:02 |
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| gordon1 | hi, is there a chance to take a peek at the new motherboard schematics for mnt reform classic (that supposed to have usb-c pd if my information is correct)? | 13:02 |
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| minute | gordon1: yeah motherboard26 branch of reform repo | 13:14 |
| gordon1 | perfect, thank you very much! | 13:22 |
| minute | gordon1: note that i found a few little bugs during validation | 13:24 |
| minute | but it's mostly very nice so far | 13:25 |
| gordon1 | i'm actually interested in that for now https://files.catbox.moe/jlwibg.png and i am very happy about it <3 | 13:25 |
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| gordon1 | that swarf in usb-c won't kill the whole mb | 13:26 |
| gordon1 | (ask me how i know it's a problem) | 13:27 |
| minute | gordon1: pray tell | 13:34 |
| gordon1 | don't CNC and use your steam deck at the same time, no idea what sort of OVP they have there but it didn't help and fried the cpu (i didn't investigate in detail, but i have a feeling that it shorted 20V to D+ or D-) | 13:36 |
| gordon1 | fortunately RMAed it successfully | 13:36 |
| gordon1 | tbh according to that page https://www.digikey.co.uk/en/articles/why-usb-type-c-circuit-protection-is-vital?srsltid=AfmBOorq_XC6NswDKReGi-43d8kBt4-mCiVQ1RTbtdQEIertK7RU6Oy8 it feels like usually they focused on protecting CC/SBU since those pins are closer to VBUS than D+/D- | 13:39 |
| gordon1 | which is fine i guess | 13:39 |
| gordon1 | it is quite a contrived scenario | 13:40 |
| gordon1 | perfect storm of swarf | 13:41 |
| gordon1 | oh usb uart has two channels and one of them goes to LPC, this is so cool | 14:16 |
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| minute | gordon1: ouch | 14:32 |
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| bkeys | minute: Is there an ETA on when rk3588 modules will ship? | 17:13 |
| minute | bkeys: yeah we are shipping stuff like that now... what's your order date? | 17:18 |
| bkeys | November 8th, 2024 | 17:30 |
| minute | ok, that's not that long ago (when looking at the queue) | 17:39 |
| + cow321 (~deflated8@user/meow/deflated8837) | 17:44 | |
| cwebber | continuing to promote MNT stuff :) https://social.coop/@cwebber/113827376948002930 https://social.coop/@cwebber/113827224820455055 | 18:13 |
| cwebber | https://social.coop/@lifning@snoot.tube/113824241240255115 is so cool | 18:14 |
| cwebber | oops | 18:14 |
| cwebber | https://snoot.tube/@lifning/113824240523631073 | 18:14 |
| cwebber | direct link :) | 18:14 |
| minute | cwebber: this is just amazing :3 | 18:36 |
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| minute | cwebber: your pocket reform is here btw | 18:46 |
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| minute | ok, purple flash seen. backlight stays off | 19:42 |
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| minute | connecting known good display panel... works | 19:45 |
| minute | connected old display with known good cable, same purple flash issue | 19:46 |
| minute | diagnosis: display panel is borked | 19:46 |
| minute | replaced panel, works | 19:57 |
| minute | hmm what, new panel now has the same symptom when booting from microsd | 20:03 |
| minute | but it shows something when booting from emmc... wat | 20:04 |
| minute | ah it just takes forever to boot from microsd on imx8mp... | 20:10 |
| minute | ch: at 38c3 we removed mipi_dsi_dcs_enter_sleep_mode() to fix your display-loss-on-reboot problem right? | 20:14 |
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| chaseadam | What is the reason for the voltage threshold differences in R3 vs <R3. This was mentioned in the update switching to the NTC pin https://community.mnt.re/t/mnt-reform-r-2-motherboard-update-2021-04-19/177 with commit https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform/-/commit/d622ddfe84a7cd5b344542fab9d19d092a5bf914. Why would switching to the NTC pin change these values? | 20:21 |
| chaseadam | Context: Seeking clear understanding of current state as I killed my second set of LiFEPO batteries in my MNT Reform, so going to try hacking on the LPC and power system a bit. I am switching to regular 4.2V salvaged Lithium cells and will adjust the resistors and code accordingly. | 20:22 |
| cwebber | minute: curious! | 20:29 |
| cwebber | minute: I tried also flashing a new microsd card and booting from that and it didn't work. Unless I flashed it wrong | 20:29 |
| cwebber | but it would be good for you to verify yourself of that too | 20:29 |
| cwebber | which maybe you already have | 20:29 |
| chaseadam | did we ever us the RNG/SS pin to actually limit the current, or only to shut off the charger (I presume only during balancing discharge) | 20:29 |
| cwebber | minute: and yay, thanks for investigating | 20:30 |
| ch | minute: i think so, but it "fixed" it and probably not for the right reasons | 20:32 |
| minute | ch: allright | 20:32 |
| ch | (the diff i have is not super conclusive, sorry) | 20:33 |
| ch | i remember i had a lot of open questions on how the backlight control could work at all in the first place, and that many flags didnt seem to do anything | 20:33 |
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| ch | https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/3556284.QJadu78ljV@diego/ | 20:47 |
| ch | yay | 20:47 |
| ch | or "yay" | 20:47 |
| minute | there is some illogical thing in the sysctl code around power off / on and the backlight setting | 20:52 |
| minute | hmm no it's ok | 20:54 |
| BoostisBetter | minute: just had the keyboard not respond, and no matter how many times I tried reseting it (either manually with a sim ejection tool or via the Oled), and I tried reseting it at least 20 times, the keyboard would just not connect to the system. It was responsive in that the Oled was working, and LEDs were working, but it is just it seemed like it was not connected to the kernel. | 20:55 |
| minute | BoostisBetter: if that happens, can you connect another keyboard, or ssh in, and get at the last page or so of dmesg output? | 20:56 |
| BoostisBetter | minute: the next time it happens, I will do that. I have it currently just off, because I got pissed. When I tried turning it back on again, the keybaord wasn't connected and I couldn't even put in the encryption key at boot. | 20:57 |
| BoostisBetter | minute: specifically how many comments would you want from the end of the log? 50? | 21:00 |
| minute | BoostisBetter: 50-100 lines will be ok | 21:00 |
| minute | ch: lol @ those dsi flags | 21:07 |
| minute | ok cwebber's "dead" display is actually fine, at least with bpi-cm4 a311d in the same machine....... | 21:09 |
| minute | so it's imx8mp related | 21:09 |
| + amospalla (~jordi@user/amospalla) | 21:10 | |
| ch | the replacement display is from the same batch or probably some other batch? | 21:12 |
| minute | other batch | 21:14 |
| minute | but also, the replacement stopped working after a while, or only works randomly | 21:14 |
| minute | (on imx8mp) | 21:14 |
| minute | all panels work reliable with the a311d | 21:16 |
| minute | dsi controllers, all different... | 21:16 |
| josch | another one of *those* problems it seems... :( | 21:20 |
| josch | the "funny" kind... | 21:20 |
| minute | yeah | 21:22 |
| cwebber | minute: hm hm | 21:38 |
| cwebber | Well I was considering switching out the processor board anyway. Which would you recommend, the rk3588? | 21:40 |
| cwebber | Can I just buy one from your site | 21:40 |
| cwebber | And have you ship it back with the new board? | 21:40 |
| cwebber | You can keep the old one for "research" if the problem comes up again | 21:40 |
| minute | cwebber: yes the rk3588 is definitely the best choice | 21:42 |
| cwebber | Are you ok with that strategy? | 21:42 |
| cwebber | Don't worry about the warranty | 21:43 |
| minute | cwebber: yeah totally | 21:43 |
| cwebber | Consider it as "I want the upgrade anyway" | 21:43 |
| minute | cool! | 21:43 |
| cwebber | Cool I will place the order after work tonight | 21:43 |
| cwebber | Yay | 21:43 |
| cwebber | And hey I guess it's nice to hear it wasn't my fault lol | 21:43 |
| minute | just for completeness, i swapped in another imx8mp module i had here and it doesn't seem to have this issue | 21:44 |
| cwebber | I have had so many pieces of hardware break spontaneously in one month it makes me feel like I picked up a curse | 21:44 |
| minute | so it's either that the imx8mp module is slightly broken or some marginality that interacts with the current driver | 21:44 |
| minute | but yeah, the rk3588 is approx. 500% more fun anyway | 21:44 |
| cwebber | Then let's upgrade to the 500% more fun edition | 21:45 |
| minute | nice :3 | 21:45 |
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| midfavila | out of curiosity has anyone tried to bring up the mars cm4 on the reform? | 22:16 |
| midfavila | it would be super neat to have a risc-v chip | 22:16 |
| midfavila | i did see there was a post on the forum but it didn't seem they got far | 22:17 |
| minute | midfavila: yes there's a thread about... ah yeah you've seen it. | 22:17 |
| midfavila | yeah. seems like it's a start but that's it. not that that's a small achievement :P | 22:18 |
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