| - nsc (QUIT: Ping timeout: 265 seconds) (~nicolas@i5C74DE1D.versanet.de) | 00:32 | |
| josch | minute: no worries! I hope you didn't pull too much hair out over the issue. At least as far as I can see from here, my order seems to have worked and I even got the confirmation email and everything seems to be in order with it. :) | 00:37 |
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| minute | josch: thanks for ordering :3 | 00:44 |
| - jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~quassel@47-186-65-73.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net) | 00:45 | |
| josch | always happy to exchange some euros for awesome hardware from your shop :) | 00:46 |
| kuno | hello! Where can I find the system image for the pocket reform with A311D? | 00:48 |
| kuno | The manual at https://mntre.com/documentation/pocket-reform-handbook/software.html#flashing-the-system-image seems to link to system images for the regular reform, or do those also work on the pocket? | 00:48 |
| josch | oh no.... | 00:49 |
| josch | minute: the link https://mnt.re/system-image is broken yet again | 00:49 |
| josch | minute: reason: i ran a pipeline with the branch linux6.12 from reform-debian packages with just a311d for classic reform to test the displa problem ephase found | 00:50 |
| josch | i'm going to delete these artifacts to not confuse users | 00:52 |
| josch | i wonder if i should start another run of the images even though we know that linux6.12 is broken on a311d classic reform? | 00:52 |
| josch | kuno: thank you for spotting this and reporting the issue | 00:53 |
| josch | kuno: these are the old images: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/jobs/7127/artifacts/browse | 00:54 |
| josch | kuno: since you have a a311d pocket reform, it would be valuable if you could test the pocket-reform-system-a311d.img.gz and report back whether your display turns on or not | 00:55 |
| + jacobk (~quassel@47-186-65-73.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net) | 00:59 | |
| kuno | My pocket is currently still an i.MX8Mplus I think. But I have the a311d module here, and hoping to install it this evening. | 01:01 |
| josch | then i hope that 6.12 only broke a311d display on classic reform and not on pocket reform as well | 01:02 |
| josch | i'm trying to allocate time to investigate this over the weekend | 01:02 |
| - cobra (QUIT: Ping timeout: 265 seconds) (~cobra@user/Cobra) | 01:04 | |
| kuno | so I flash the image to an sd card, I swap the module, and boot from the SD card. If the screen doesn't turn on, that's an issue with the (linux kernel version) on the rescue image? | 01:04 |
| - mtm (QUIT: Ping timeout: 276 seconds) (~textual@47.202.75.129) | 01:04 | |
| josch | kuno: yes, maybe. There were not yet any a311d pocket users who reported that it fails for them but there also none yet who reported success with kernel 6.12 | 01:05 |
| josch | kuno: if you unsure, you of course can also wait until the situation has been resolved | 01:05 |
| josch | sorry for the trouble | 01:05 |
| kuno | no, that's fine, I'm ok with trying. _IF_ I run into the display issue, is there an older system image I can use? | 01:06 |
| josch | lets check... | 01:06 |
| + mtm (~textual@47.202.75.129) | 01:06 | |
| josch | yes! | 01:06 |
| josch | https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/jobs/6974/artifacts/browse | 01:07 |
| josch | maybe try with those first to make sure that your hardware works as expected | 01:07 |
| josch | and if everything works, give the more recent image a try | 01:07 |
| josch | minute: could you manually fix https://mnt.re/system-image so that it points to https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/jobs/6974/artifacts/browse thank you! | 01:07 |
| kuno | I'm downloading both, but I don't mind trying the newer image first. | 01:08 |
| josch | okay! :) | 01:09 |
| minute | josch: ok lets see | 01:17 |
| - murph_nj (QUIT: Quit: Leaving) (~murph@pool-108-35-93-154.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) | 01:17 | |
| josch | minute: that job was still built with kernel 6.11 which should be working everywhere except on pocket reforms with the new display... | 01:18 |
| minute | josch: done! | 01:20 |
| josch | nice, thank you! | 01:21 |
| - jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 276 seconds) (~quassel@47-186-65-73.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net) | 01:22 | |
| + jacobk (~quassel@47-186-65-73.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net) | 01:40 | |
| - Gooberpatrol66 (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 01:41 | |
| kuno | josch: boots fine so far. display works. | 01:50 |
| kuno | there's a bunch of parts included in the box which don't seem to be needed, which was a bit confusing until I found https://community.mnt.re/t/does-the-banana-pi-cm4-module-work-for-pocket/2214/6 | 01:51 |
| + Gooberpatrol66 (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 01:53 | |
| - Gooberpatrol66 (QUIT: Client Quit) (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 01:54 | |
| + cobra (~cobra@user/Cobra) | 02:00 | |
| - Ar|stote|is (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~linx@149.210.22.252) | 02:06 | |
| + Ar|stote|is (~linx@149.210.20.196) | 02:11 | |
| - mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 02:46 | |
| - aloo_shu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~aloo_shu@85.51.17.85) | 02:59 | |
| + aloo_shu (~aloo_shu@85.51.17.85) | 03:00 | |
| + reform12099 (~moxie@c-73-83-254-40.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) | 03:05 | |
| * reform12099 -> ChrisF | 03:16 | |
| * ChrisF -> Chris6 | 03:17 | |
| - paperManu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~paperManu@107.159.243.8) | 03:18 | |
| Chris6 | There are 4 files I can't seem to upgrade. Can I get some help troubleshooting? | 03:21 |
| Chris6 | * programs | 03:23 |
| - Chris6 (QUIT: Quit: Leaving) (~moxie@c-73-83-254-40.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) | 03:28 | |
| + reform8802 (~moxie@c-73-83-254-40.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) | 03:35 | |
| - reform8802 (QUIT: Client Quit) (~moxie@c-73-83-254-40.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) | 03:37 | |
| + murph_nj (~murph@pool-108-35-93-154.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) | 03:49 | |
| + Gooberpatrol66 (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 05:54 | |
| josch | kuno: thank you for testing! <3 | 06:25 |
| - Gooberpatrol66 (QUIT: Quit: Konversation terminated!) (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 06:30 | |
| + Gooberpatrol66 (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 07:05 | |
| - mtm (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~textual@47.202.75.129) | 07:08 | |
| + mtm (~textual@47.202.75.129) | 07:12 | |
| josch | Bisecting: 7334 revisions left to test after this (roughly 13 steps) | 07:45 |
| josch | and here we go again... | 07:45 |
| bluerise | https://kanoa.de/@cypheon/110538384337438138 | 09:46 |
| bluerise | oh, someone got rk3588 hdmi working on NetBSD | 09:46 |
| bluerise | let's see if I can get that patchset :O | 09:47 |
| bluerise | https://git.sr.ht/~cypheon/NetBSD/log aha! | 09:47 |
| + gustav28 (~gustav@c-78-82-53-236.bbcust.telenor.se) | 10:02 | |
| - jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~quassel@47-186-65-73.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net) | 10:04 | |
| + jacobk (~quassel@47-186-65-73.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net) | 10:04 | |
| minute | josch: have we looked at our own patchstack yet? | 10:05 |
| minute | josch: i'm thinking about anything drivers/gpu/meson related that might have changed in our 6.12 patches vs 6.11 | 10:36 |
| josch | minute: yes, by accident i just built a kernel during bisecting that did *not* have our patch stack applied | 10:45 |
| josch | and that kernel exhibited exactly the failure i'm looking for: backlight turns on but nothing is shown | 10:45 |
| josch | a common mistake would just be that by rebasing the patches, the dtsi patches got applied in the wrong location, just being without effect | 10:46 |
| josch | let me rephrase the last part of my sentence which i botched: | 10:47 |
| josch | i would not be surprised if one of the dtsi patches got applied at the wrong location because the device tree patches have to work with very little context (just some opening and closing braces) | 10:47 |
| josch | or, another theory: our patches got applied correctly but they got applied to a component that is no longer used and thus the patch becomes ineffective | 10:49 |
| josch | i have 10 more bisection steps to go, maybe you find out more by staring at the patches but if you rather have a free saturday, i'll probably be done by tonight | 10:50 |
| josch | each kernel build takes 45 minutes on a311d | 10:50 |
| amospalla | How does the OLED display behave when sending text to it? | 11:01 |
| amospalla | You send a string of text at once, and it wraps it into two rows? | 11:01 |
| - iank (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~iank@fsf/staff/iank) | 11:06 | |
| amospalla | Oh nevermind, it doesn't accept text, but a bitmap. | 11:09 |
| minute | josch: free saturday would be nice but actually working hard on next campaign today :/ (looming deadline) | 12:10 |
| - aloo_shu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 265 seconds) (~aloo_shu@85.51.17.85) | 12:17 | |
| + mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 12:20 | |
| + aloo_shu (~aloo_shu@85.51.17.85) | 12:24 | |
| josch | minute: then please focus on the next - 9 bisection steps left :) | 12:50 |
| - mtm (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~textual@47.202.75.129) | 13:04 | |
| + mtm (~textual@47.202.75.129) | 13:07 | |
| minute | josch: ok :D | 13:30 |
| + glu_ (~glu@user/glu) | 13:45 | |
| - glu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 272 seconds) (~glu@user/glu) | 13:45 | |
| * glu_ -> glu | 13:45 | |
| + paperManu (~paperManu@107.159.243.8) | 13:53 | |
| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:587:7a14:db00:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 14:09 | |
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| + aloo_shu (~aloo_shu@90.166.193.78) | 14:51 | |
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| + aloo_shu (~aloo_shu@90.166.98.198) | 15:05 | |
| + nsc (~nicolas@i5C74DE1D.versanet.de) | 15:55 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@209.sub-97-150-128.myvzw.com) | 16:07 | |
| bkeys | minute: Any updates on getting rk3588 modules in the mail? | 16:07 |
| minute | bkeys: we have them! | 16:28 |
| minute | but currently finishing the reform next movie | 16:29 |
| minute | after it's done we'll resume shippenings | 16:29 |
| minute | but also there's christmas and 38c3 coming up | 16:29 |
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| + jacobk (~quassel@47-186-65-73.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net) | 16:36 | |
| - jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~quassel@47-186-65-73.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net) | 16:44 | |
| - paperManu (QUIT: Quit: WeeChat 4.1.1) (~paperManu@107.159.243.8) | 16:52 | |
| - MyNetAz (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~MyNetAz@user/MyNetAz) | 16:57 | |
| + MyNetAz (~MyNetAz@user/MyNetAz) | 17:08 | |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~Thunderbi@209.sub-97-150-128.myvzw.com) | 17:19 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@209.sub-97-150-128.myvzw.com) | 17:37 | |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Quit: With every step we take, danger will follow closely) (~Thunderbi@209.sub-97-150-128.myvzw.com) | 18:01 | |
| minute | josch: omg @ that dsi commit | 18:24 |
| minute | why would they mess with that :0 | 18:24 |
| josch | oh you saw the MR? | 18:25 |
| josch | i'm still testing it | 18:25 |
| minute | yeah just randomly saw the email | 18:25 |
| minute | by gitlab :D | 18:25 |
| ch | looks like upstream was confused about the flag names multiple times, f.e. https://lkml.org/lkml/2023/5/23/490 | 18:33 |
| josch | there is now a different type of problem which i think is unrelated to my reversal: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/jobs/7132 | 18:42 |
| josch | arch/arm64/kernel/entry-fpsimd.S:44: Error: Bad parameter list for macro `_for__body' | 18:46 |
| josch | huh... | 18:46 |
| ch | wth | 18:54 |
| josch | this would be more fun to debug if it wouldn't take that long to build the thing... | 18:57 |
| josch | oh 6.12.6-1 just got uploaded a few hours ago | 18:58 |
| josch | but it built fine on the buildds... | 18:58 |
| - Ar|stote|is (QUIT: Ping timeout: 265 seconds) (~linx@149.210.20.196) | 20:23 | |
| + Ar|stote|is (~linx@149.210.20.104) | 20:27 | |
| josch | hah! reproduced it on salsa with x86, vanilla debian linux kernel: https://salsa.debian.org/josch/linux/-/jobs/6796663 | 20:55 |
| + iank (~iank@fsf/staff/iank) | 21:00 | |
| - glu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 265 seconds) (~glu@user/glu) | 21:14 | |
| + glu (~glu@user/glu) | 21:14 | |
| + bkeys (~bkeys@45.134.140.153) | 21:18 | |
| + paperManu_ (~paperManu@107.159.243.8) | 21:18 | |
| bkeys | I left my Reform off for a few weeks and I turn it on today and it won't turn on at all | 21:19 |
| bkeys | The LPC is working fine. LEDs light up and all | 21:19 |
| bkeys | I disconnected the battery boards to take batteries out of the equation | 21:20 |
| bkeys | Does anyone have any clue where to start? | 21:20 |
| * sterni_ -> sterni | 21:22 | |
| minute | bkeys: serial debugging i'd say | 21:40 |
| minute | bkeys: and/or fresh sd card with fresh system image | 21:40 |
| bkeys | I really hope it isn't dead. I went to my bike shop and got my other laptop | 21:52 |
| bkeys | I'll do some debugging and see | 21:52 |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Quit: Client closed) (~bkeys@45.134.140.153) | 21:58 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@45.134.140.153) | 21:58 | |
| bkeys | https://paste.centos.org/view/5999d0e2 | 22:07 |
| bkeys | minute, josch or anyone else; any clue why it hangs at this point? | 22:07 |
| bkeys | I'm about to put a fresh system image on there, thank goodness it's not dead | 22:07 |
| minute | bkeys: hmmmm it's a311d | 22:10 |
| bkeys | Unfortunately, honestly my experience with this module has been rather poor | 22:10 |
| minute | bkeys: oh, sorry to hear that ;/ | 22:10 |
| bkeys | Well I'm getting the rk3588 so I'm excited for that | 22:10 |
| bkeys | Especially to hear that there is hope that edk2 will work on there | 22:11 |
| bkeys | I support your 100% | 22:11 |
| minute | bkeys: i'm not really sure if it hangs there or if it switches to display and you don't get to see that. do you have an HDMI monitor & cable? then you could try having that plugged in at boot. i think the a311d defaults to hdmi then | 22:12 |
| bkeys | Well it's been working from internal display this whole time | 22:12 |
| bkeys | I haven't tried that though | 22:12 |
| bkeys | Let me do that while I look for my usb->sd card adapter | 22:13 |
| minute | bkeys: maybe the FPC or the mezzanine connectors have gone loose? | 22:13 |
| minute | bkeys: did you try reseating everything? | 22:13 |
| - gustav28 (QUIT: Quit: Quit) (~gustav@c-78-82-53-236.bbcust.telenor.se) | 22:15 | |
| bkeys | Yeah I reseated it all | 22:17 |
| bkeys | I don't see that any cables are loose | 22:17 |
| bkeys | Let me ask my wife if my children danced on it or anything | 22:17 |
| bkeys | She says children have no danced on it | 22:21 |
| bkeys | minute: Fresh image did the trick, maybe it was an update or the SD card is pooped it was rather old | 22:32 |
| bkeys | I know you work hard, and I appreciate the contributions you have made to the open source world. Your work is felt all over the world, thank you from the southeastern US | 22:32 |
| minute | bkeys: thank you! | 22:55 |
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| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@45.134.140.153) | 23:18 | |
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