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| sevan | hello, it's been a while. Ran into a system upgrade issue (likely my own fault due to prior experiment) which left the system unable to boot, hence missing from here. | 01:04 |
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| sevan | My CPU module & keyboard showed up yesterday, so that's really cool. Haven't installed the CPU yet, but I played with the keyboard briefly. | 01:05 |
| sevan | new keyboard feels great, and I really like the controls for the backlighting. | 01:06 |
| sevan | Not sure if anything has changed business wise with UPS but this time it was really smooth. When the received the parcel there was one change of delivery date to yesterday, and that was it. Monday morning I got an email to say there's a payment due, I can either pay it online or when the courier delivers it. Paid it online (they sent the email at like 8am, I paid it at 2pm), parcel showed up yesterday | 01:09 |
| sevan | lunchtime. | 01:09 |
| sevan | courier even took the time to take a very slow lift rather than walk up some stairs, didn't take any chances and stood in front of the lift to be handed the parcel. :D | 01:10 |
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| BoostisBetter | sevan: I know the feeling. It feels like you have to remove any excuse they could have to just leave and say you weren't there. | 09:10 |
| BoostisBetter | sevan: glad you got it and that you are liking it! | 09:11 |
| BoostisBetter | sevan: I also know about digging yourself into a pit. Josch has saved my bacon more than a few times! | 09:11 |
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| ryukazou | “The upcoming batch is tricky because we had to switch to a new display that needed mechanical integration” | 10:56 |
| ryukazou | minute: Does this mean JDI and Wisecoco will different top frame, or does this mean Wisecoco screen need other components to mount the screen? | 10:56 |
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| - V (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~v@ircpuzzles/2022/april/winner/V) | 12:25 | |
| minute | ryukazou: we made an inlay lasercut from 0.3mm mylar that goes behind the regular frame | 12:25 |
| minute | amazing, i got a microsd express card today and it works out of the box on reform next https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/113599957759191835 | 12:26 |
| gsora | woooo very cool! | 12:27 |
| gsora | works on reform 3.0 as well? | 12:28 |
| minute | no, next is the only board with a microsd express slot yet | 12:30 |
| ryukazou | minute: so it would be a extra component, that is very good to know. Thanks. I already made some little modding on my pocket reform top frame, I was worry I have to do it again if I want to change to wisecoco display. | 12:31 |
| minute | it's because it has only one m.2 slot so far because of space constraints | 12:31 |
| minute | ryukazou: yeah it should be fine | 12:31 |
| gsora | minute: i see - the controller lives on the rk3588 but wiring isn't there right? | 12:33 |
| josch | those things are an ssd?? | 12:33 |
| gsora | wd says: "The microSD Express Demo card was able to deliver over 800 MB/s read and almost 500 MB/s write speeds." | 12:35 |
| gsora | that's impressive if it doesn't die in 3 months :D | 12:35 |
| jn | SD Express uses NVEe over PCIe AFAIK, just like big SSDs | 12:35 |
| josch | huh... so is there also wear leveling built-in? | 12:35 |
| jn | (but IMO, SD cards are SSDs anyway: they have flash and manage it internally with a flash translation layer) | 12:36 |
| minute | gsora: well you have a mPCIe and a M.2 slot on reform 3.0 so you can also put in 2 SSDs that way | 12:36 |
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| josch | i suppose that also means that these cards cannot be plugged into an sd-card slot of an older generation using a passive adapter? | 12:36 |
| gsora | ah yes indeed, no need to go for the smaller ssd on reform 3.0 | 12:36 |
| minute | josch: they can. but you will get only SD speeds then | 12:36 |
| jn | if you ever find an SD card without an FTL, it'll die after 500 write cycles to the same block | 12:36 |
| minute | they have 2 rows of pins | 12:36 |
| minute | it will try to negotiate pcie first, if that fails, sd | 12:36 |
| josch | nifty | 12:36 |
| minute | on the other pins | 12:36 |
| minute | it's incredible how they put all this tech incl pcie in this small thing | 12:37 |
| josch | it's nuts | 12:37 |
| minute | in gnome disks i get 411.2MB/s read and 380.3MB/s write | 12:37 |
| minute | on the microsd express | 12:37 |
| jn | i'd like to see SD Express get some foothold, just for the funny adapters you could build with it. 10G Ethernet, GPU, ... on a tiny tiny connector | 12:37 |
| josch | ah so the reform next has two micro-sd card slots | 12:38 |
| josch | one on the mainboard and one on the left board | 12:38 |
| minute | yes | 12:38 |
| josch | that's cool | 12:39 |
| minute | one could also make alternative port boards and use the microsd express connector with a "cable" | 12:39 |
| minute | i.e. a shim card like it's common for microsd externders, just with pcie signals | 12:39 |
| minute | one could maybe do oculink that way | 12:39 |
| josch | sounds cursed XD | 12:39 |
| gsora | sounds cursed | 12:39 |
| josch | hahaha | 12:39 |
| gsora | ha! | 12:39 |
| minute | it's cursed! | 12:39 |
| gsora | and that's what we love | 12:40 |
| josch | just make sure you don't summon cthulhu in the process :) | 12:40 |
| minute | exactly | 12:40 |
| minute | on the other ssd i get 800MB/s read+write, but it's still only gen 1 x4 (not sure why it doesn't link up with better gen, maybe depends on controller+card mix) | 12:41 |
| gsora | i wonder, is pcie daisy-chain-able? | 12:41 |
| minute | no | 12:41 |
| minute | point to point | 12:41 |
| gsora | sad! imagine a reform server, with expansion boards daisy-chained through microsd express | 12:42 |
| gsora | now that would've been cursed | 12:42 |
| minute | well, there's a way | 12:42 |
| minute | you can use a pcie switch chip | 12:42 |
| minute | it splits up pcie | 12:42 |
| minute | like a network switch | 12:42 |
| gsora | oh, like what they used to use for multi-die gpus | 12:42 |
| minute | ah yeah | 12:42 |
| gsora | that metal reform next looks sick btw, just seen the toot | 12:47 |
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