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| murphnj | Just updated my pocket reform, and the application menu (wofi) doesn't seem to launch. Anyone else see this problem? | 04:04 |
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| * _justin_kelly06 -> _justin_kelly | 06:59 | |
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| josch | murphnj: did you try starting it from the terminal, is there any output if yo utry? | 07:42 |
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| amospalla | https://www.phoronix.com/news/Fwupd-2.0.2-Released mentions Pocket Reform. | 13:22 |
| ch | josch: mastodon is supernothelpful :( i see your toot but not what you replied to :( | 13:39 |
| ch | wondering if fwupd could update uboot | 13:40 |
| murphnj | josch, I did, I'll run it again, and report back. | 13:40 |
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| * Guest1252 -> mjw | 13:41 | |
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| murphnj | I'm assuming the the problem is wofi, so I ran "wofi -d" from a terminal, and got the following: "dbind-Warning AT-SPI Error receiving accessibilty bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.a11y.bus was not provided by any .service files" | 13:45 |
| ch | thats normal tho | 13:50 |
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| josch | ch: for them, the larger console font size is un-done during the boot process. They'll come back to you if needed I think. | 14:41 |
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| ch | right | 15:43 |
| ch | that sounds like console-setup | 15:43 |
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| * bkeys1 -> bkeys | 16:15 | |
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| staticbunny | if anyone runs into issues with wayfire after doing an upgrade. Check the permissions on /dev/dri/renderD128. Some how mine got switched to the render group and i needed to add myself to that. no clue how that happened | 20:47 |
| minute | staticbunny: oh wow ok | 20:53 |
| staticbunny | im testing the new version josch put out and it loads but the launcher doesnt work now | 20:57 |
| staticbunny | firefox wont launch either | 21:02 |
| hramrach | josch: what are their console-setup settings, and did they change them? | 21:09 |
| minute | staticbunny: there's something wrong about your login manager maybe if you have permission issues with renderD128 | 21:09 |
| minute | staticbunny: > Seat management takes care of mediating access to shared devices (graphics, input), without requiring applications like Wayland compositors being granted root privileges | 21:10 |
| hramrach | it should be possible to show the settings with debconf-show console-setup | 21:11 |
| staticbunny | the only things ive actively configured on my pocket is some config files for things like neovim, zsh, tmux and installing from the repos | 21:13 |
| staticbunny | the only thing i can think of us doing apt upgrade did all this | 21:15 |
| staticbunny | *of doing | 21:15 |
| staticbunny | seems like a ton of stuff was reset | 21:15 |
| staticbunny | hramrach: https://pastebin.com/PBFYLqSk | 21:17 |
| hramrach | staticbunny: that shows the big font settings. Do you get small font with this? | 21:19 |
| staticbunny | i only get small fonts in xterm if im understanding your question | 21:24 |
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| staticbunny | oh yeah this install was an install from my SD using the migrate tool. That could possibly have done some odd things. Still nothing actually broke till recently | 21:26 |
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| - chomwitt (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~chomwitt@2a02:587:7a0f:5200:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 21:29 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@195.sub-75-228-53.myvzw.com) | 21:51 | |
| - gustav28 (QUIT: Quit: Quit) (~gustav@c-78-82-54-68.bbcust.telenor.se) | 22:15 | |
| hramrach | staticbunny: I don't think xterm is configured by anything. The default terminal is foot and should be configured to reasonable font size by somie foot-specific configuration but that can be changed, and it cana fail if the configured font gets uninstalled or something | 22:26 |
| ch | sounds unrelated anyway | 22:27 |
| hramrach | to console-setup at least | 22:27 |
| staticbunny | hramrach: foot looks like it always has since i got my pocket | 22:32 |
| hramrach | xterm is probably not meant to be used, it's X11 terminal, not Wayland one. You caould probably configure it to usabl font size but expect other problems. The default xterm font is tiny even on more common display resolutions. | 22:35 |
| josch | hramrach: supposedly it's from a vanilla bookworm+backports setup but you'll have to wait for them to make the case, i do not know details | 22:35 |
| josch | staticbunny: the launcher not working could be this: https://community.mnt.re/t/problem-with-program-launcher-wofi/2764 | 22:37 |
| josch | i didn't try to reproduce this on unstable yet | 22:37 |
| hramrach | xterm has some arguments to set font, eg. xterm -fa "DejaVu Sans Mono" -fs 24 | 22:44 |
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| minute | currently trying gnome on my pocket :D | 23:10 |
| minute | the most jarring thing with new DEs is the screen rotation that has to be set up | 23:10 |
| minute | mouse pointer is slightly laggy on internal display vs external... i wonder if gnome still has issues with rotation | 23:12 |
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| - bkeys (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~Thunderbi@45.134.140.153) | 23:14 | |
| * bkeys1 -> bkeys | 23:14 | |
| gsora | gnome would be a pretty sweet DE for a touch device... :v | 23:14 |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Client Quit) (~Thunderbi@45.134.140.153) | 23:16 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@45.134.140.153) | 23:16 | |
| hramrach | Would it? Every time I try to run gnome to test something it's so janky. Like, ok, I can run a fullscreen xterm in it, and only need to jump through a couple or so extra hoops for that but that's not what it's supposed to be for. | 23:23 |
| minute | hramrach: it seems quite janky yeah ;/ | 23:24 |
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| - bkeys (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~Thunderbi@45.134.140.153) | 23:26 | |
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| minute | wayfire indeed has some issues here | 23:27 |
| + nsc (~nicolas@233-99-142-46.pool.kielnet.net) | 23:27 | |
| minute | when moving a foot window it gets scaled down a bit temporarily... really weird | 23:27 |
| minute | and wofi launcher does not work | 23:27 |
| josch | since there was no wofi upload since february, somebody else must've broken it | 23:28 |
| minute | wofi works in sway | 23:28 |
| minute | so it's more likely wayfire that is broken | 23:28 |
| * bkeys1 -> bkeys | 23:29 | |
| josch | ah so this is with wayfire and not sway? https://community.mnt.re/t/problem-with-program-launcher-wofi/2764 | 23:29 |
| minute | very possible, just asked there | 23:30 |
| gsora | minute: have you tested plasma lately? | 23:30 |
| minute | gsora: so far i couldn't get it to work | 23:30 |
| minute | interesting, _none_ of the reform-tray actions seem to work on wayfire | 23:31 |
| + cow321 (~deflated8@user/meow/deflated8837) | 23:32 | |
| minute | ok, i need to look into this more tomorrow @ work but i think we should probably find a stable replacement for wayfire (for example labwc) | 23:33 |
| josch | gsora: note that KDE plasma 6 was just uploaded to unstable a few minutes ago | 23:33 |
| josch | (until then we only had plasma 5) | 23:33 |
| minute | ah, plasma works on top of sway | 23:33 |
| gsora | i used to run plasma 5 on top of i3, best of both worlds! | 23:34 |
| gsora | josch: ah wow! it'll be a while before we see it in a stable release then | 23:34 |
| minute | it is really snappy | 23:34 |
| minute | i had to deinstall sddm though :D | 23:34 |
| gsora | how do you start the session then? start sway and then plasma services? | 23:35 |
| josch | gsora: plan is this: https://lists.debian.org/12565366.O9o76ZdvQC@grummly | 23:35 |
| josch | the uploaded mentioned in that mail happened 7 minutes ago :) | 23:36 |
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| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@45.134.140.153) | 23:36 | |
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| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@45.134.140.153) | 23:37 | |
| gsora | timely question! :^) | 23:37 |
| josch | with imx8mq i was starting kde plasma with: dbus-run-session startplasma-wayland | 23:39 |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~Thunderbi@45.134.140.153) | 23:39 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@45.134.140.153) | 23:39 | |
| josch | that requires plasma-workspace-wayland which is currently only in experimental in version 6 | 23:40 |
| josch | oh never mind, it was also uploaded to unstable in version 6 just now | 23:40 |
| josch | 13 minutes ago :) | 23:40 |
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| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@45.134.140.153) | 23:45 | |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Client Quit) (~Thunderbi@45.134.140.153) | 23:47 | |
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| minute | gsora: normally it should work through startplasma-wayland but that didn't work for me right now outside of sway | 23:48 |
| minute | gsora: i'll wait for kde 6 | 23:48 |
| minute | josch: kde-standard will probably be updated later...? | 23:48 |
| josch | i forwarded your question to Aurélien Couderc who currently does the uploads | 23:51 |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~Thunderbi@45.134.140.153) | 23:51 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@45.134.140.153) | 23:51 | |
| josch | minute: yes, the plan is to update kde-standard to 6 as well | 23:54 |
| minute | nice | 23:54 |
| josch | but first some applications in experimental have to be updated to qt6 | 23:54 |
| minute | sounds mysterious | 23:57 |
| josch | looking at the Depends of kde-standard, the updated deps are all sitting in experimental in their version 24 which would be needed for qt6 and thus kde-standard 6 | 23:59 |
| minute | oh nice | 23:59 |
| minute | do you know when kde-standard is planned to be updated in experimental? in days or weeks? | 23:59 |
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