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| amospalla | josch: if this is of your interest, on pocket/debian/stable I ran reform-mcu-tool just to see what it does, and it complained about python3-usb1 missing. I manually installed it and the tool does not complain anymore. | 08:41 |
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| josch | amospalla: reform-mcu-tool will soon be part of the reform-tools package thanks to this MR by ch: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/merge_requests/101 | 09:13 |
| josch | amospalla: and that also adds python3-usb1 to the Depends of reform-tools | 09:13 |
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| amospalla | Nice, I was talking just in case, I don't really know what I was talking about. | 09:19 |
| josch | amospalla: it's appreciated! thank you for double checking :) | 09:21 |
| amospalla | :) | 09:21 |
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| josch | another advantage of ripping the Debian parts out of reform-tools is, that we get rid of this awkward requirement that we cannot do development of reform-tools in the main branch | 10:04 |
| josch | because that will get picked up by reform-debian-packages gitlab CI | 10:04 |
| josch | so hopefully soon (depending on NEW) we can maintain this with similar workflows like other upstream projects... | 10:05 |
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| josch | kop316, jfred: this is the video (from 5 days ago) i was looking for yesterday but failed to find it about the latest developments around mobian by Arnaud Ferraris (Collabora): https://chuangtzu.ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/debian-meetings/2024/MiniDebConf-Toulouse/toulouse2024-6-trixie-on-mobile-are-we-there-yet.webm | 11:42 |
| josch | funnily they have the same problems as we do with firmware | 11:47 |
| josch | debian is not allowed to redistribute the NXP firmware either | 11:47 |
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| kensanata | josch: I have a Pocket Reform with the imx8mq chip from the Kickstarter. I can do what you asked in "Seeking help from imx8mq user for reform-hw-setup" but I'm not equipped for hardware tinkering so "see if anything explodes" is a bit ominous. Is the risk that I might brick the laptop? | 12:47 |
| josch | kensanata: if you have a pocket reform, then you likely have the imx8mplus and not the imx8mq that comes with classic reform though :) | 12:48 |
| kensanata | Hah! Thanks for that. I truly am to unfocused for this. 😅 | 12:49 |
| * Guest1395 -> mjw | 12:49 | |
| josch | kensanata: i followed up on the topic to not confuse more people :) | 12:50 |
| josch | minute: is there a chance to have the halo-90 ready for christmas maybe? :) | 12:52 |
| ch | wow, lots of people were in toulouse | 13:02 |
| ch | didn't realize it was such a big thing | 13:02 |
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| josch | ACTION would've been there too if work was not a thing XD | 13:06 |
| ch | :) | 13:06 |
| ch | i was in krakow anyway, but somehow it didn't really register with me | 13:07 |
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| minute | josch: working on that! :D | 14:27 |
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| ch | josch: q for another project: reform-debian-packages currently downloads "all" relevant git repos from source.mnt.re, builds debian packages from whatever is in main, and stuffs that into reprepro? | 15:27 |
| ch | josch: (mostly wondering if i should steal this approach / which up-/down-sides this has, ...) | 15:28 |
| hramrach | and qcacld2 is not built in reform-debian-packages which is likely the main reason it's broken (cannot be cleanly inserted) | 15:47 |
| ch | for qcacld2 we have a package in debian main | 15:58 |
| ch | some time in the future the hacky solution can go away | 15:58 |
| ch | (however iirc the hacky solution has the advantage of shipping prebuilt modules, so thats nicer for the target) | 15:59 |
| josch | ch: do not steal that approach from reform-debian-packages but steal it from its source which is this repo by Helmut (see also the SPDX copyright headers in reform-debian-packages): https://salsa.debian.org/helmutg/dpkg-root-demo/ | 17:10 |
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| josch | hramrach, ch: qcacld2 is a deliberate hack for the imx8mplus which will not go away on machines using the MNT repos. Reason is that building the module locally takes around 15 minutes | 17:10 |
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| josch | if you do not want that hack, there the same thing as dkms module in the form of ezurio-qcacld-2.0-dkms | 17:11 |
| ch | right, the build is super slow on imx8 :( | 17:13 |
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| jbmorley_ | Hi folks! My Pocket Reform keyboard appears to have crashed in a way that I can’t bring up the OSD to reset it. Do any of you have recovery suggestions? | 22:02 |
| ^alex | oh, we've been there. unfortunately there's an erratum on the board (wrong value of a resistor) that prevents the PROG button from working correctly, so the best luck we've had has been to take apart the keyboard top while the machine is on, SSH into the Pocket from another computer, then hold down the PROG button with one hand while you carefully remove and replace the USB connection going into the keyboard | 22:05 |
| ^alex | with the other | 22:05 |
| ^alex | if that's a little too dicey, shut down the machine, switch it off, disassemble the keyboard top, hold down the prog button with one hand and switch the machine on | 22:05 |
| ^alex | that gets the keyboard into bootloader/reflashing mode | 22:06 |
| ^alex | https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/112909796268944786 in re: board erratum | 22:09 |
| jbmorley_ | Interesting. | 22:10 |
| jbmorley_ | I’ll see if I can ssh into it and shut it down at least. I’m in a coffee shop so that’s a little challenging. | 22:10 |
| jbmorley_ | Thanks. | 22:14 |
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| jbmorley_ | ^alex: So is the likely situation that it’s corrupted itself? | 22:30 |
| noam | Gah. What should I look at on the schematic to understand the keyboard light? Mine hasn't been working, but I've been ignoring it, but there's been a few times lately where it turned on at boot but then went off when the laptop got bumped, and that's actually _more_ annoying so now I want to fix it >_< | 22:34 |
| hramrach | which keyboard? | 22:45 |
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| minute | jbmorley_: ^alex: first you should just try toggling the standby power switch (before having to resort to disassembling) | 23:04 |
| minute | that will power cycle the keyboard as well | 23:04 |
| jbmorley_ | ACTION nods | 23:05 |
| jbmorley_ | I’ll try that. | 23:05 |
| jbmorley_ | I guess ultimately I want to replace that resistor. | 23:05 |
| jbmorley_ | (I couldn’t ssh in thanks to a sensibly configured coffee shop network, so I’m waiting for it to shut itself down before trying anything else.) | 23:06 |
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