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| josch | oh no! reform-tools is in Debian NEW! | 01:39 |
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| amospalla | :D | 09:26 |
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| + BoostisBetter (4a410829d7@irc.cheogram.com) | 10:07 | |
| + erle (~erle@user/erle) | 10:09 | |
| ch | omg! | 10:18 |
| ch | :0 | 10:18 |
| ch | :) | 10:18 |
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| josch | ch: wait until reform-tools is in NEW for 4+ months like other stuff of mine in there ;) | 10:32 |
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| ch | not unlikely | 10:44 |
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| josch | don't make me cry 😠| 10:50 |
| minute | wow, reform-tools in debian? :3 | 10:51 |
| josch | could be still a while off, could be tomorrow could be next year :) | 10:54 |
| ch | josch: just super unpredictable, no? so be prepared for anything :D | 10:54 |
| josch | yup | 10:55 |
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| * Guest1155 -> mjw | 11:55 | |
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| ch | E: Failed to create build directory /build | 12:26 |
| ch | thats a weird error :D | 12:26 |
| josch | ch: you understood it already or do you want to know what happened there? :) | 12:31 |
| ch | i want to know! | 12:31 |
| josch | sbuild creates a new unshared namespace for each command it runs | 12:32 |
| josch | if it creating that namespace fails, it returns a non-zero exit | 12:32 |
| josch | so if it tries to mkdir and creating the namespace fails, then it will look to the caller like mkdir failed | 12:32 |
| josch | luckily, i put some error messages in there which show why creating the namespace failed | 12:32 |
| josch | fix is in my local sbuild git | 12:32 |
| josch | turns out we don't have (and cannot have) an autopkgtest that tests running sbuild inside docker | 12:33 |
| + paperManu (~paperManu@107.159.243.8) | 12:36 | |
| ch | cant? not even inside isolation-machine? | 12:38 |
| josch | ch: on salsa docker is used and it works fine there, so it has to be about the specific docker setup | 12:39 |
| josch | ch: as far as i know, neither salsa nor debci have isolation-machine | 12:39 |
| ch | debci has isolation-machine if you ask for qemu | 12:39 |
| josch | oh? thank you, til | 12:41 |
| ch | debian really has too much of this tribal knowledge that not even the tribe knows about :( | 12:42 |
| ryukazou | minute: The cable connect MNT Pocket Reform display to mainboard is this cable right? https://i.imgur.com/rd3IRbT.jpeg | 12:51 |
| ryukazou | i bought some spare JDC display but they didn't give me the connector cable. | 12:54 |
| ch | josch: random thought from earlier: i guess the sbuild chroot could be cached in gitlab, just so it doesnt rebuild every time. but shrug | 12:59 |
| + gustav28 (~gustav@c-78-82-52-175.bbcust.telenor.se) | 13:02 | |
| josch | ch: you mean on the MNT gitlab? if you know how to keep a cache across multiple pipelines, please provide a MR. I have no idea how to do that. :) | 13:56 |
| ch | yeah | 13:57 |
| ryukazou | I found the same cable that used in my Pocket Reform on taobao. | 14:22 |
| ch | josch: q: is the sh -c part necessary for invoking sbuild? | 14:47 |
| josch | ch: nope, it just aligns it nicer with the command before it | 14:51 |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@72.sub-97-150-200.myvzw.com) | 15:17 | |
| ch | what should SSH_AUTH_SOCK point to? | 15:23 |
| ch | somehow ssh-add doesnt like talking to the thing its set to | 15:24 |
| ch | and i dont see whats actually listening there. probably not gpg-agent-ssh | 15:24 |
| ch | generally it seems the sway session has a problem with envvars not getting set? | 15:28 |
| ch | see lots of stull like SSH_AUTH_SOCK in systemctl --user show-environment but it doesnt end up in env in a uxterm | 15:28 |
| ch | bleh, this is all such classic linux desktop b.s. | 16:04 |
| ch | https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/jobs/6893 | 16:07 |
| ch | > Your runner is outdated, please upgrade your runner | 16:07 |
| ch | err yeah, 14.9.0 is a bit old | 16:08 |
| ch | minute: can you upgrade the mntre-builder gitlab runner? ^ | 16:08 |
| ch | (please dont say this is from the debian.org package) | 16:08 |
| Twodisbetter | minute: with Purism no but all defunct, and with the collective experience you have and the team have gained, do you think a Phone Reform could be possible? | 16:12 |
| BoostisBetter | minute: if you use a imx8 then you would be able to take a big leap forward instead of starting at the stack. | 16:13 |
| BoostisBetter | just some thoughts I had recently. | 16:13 |
| + mark_ (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 16:17 | |
| minute | BoostisBetter: what happened with purism? any links/news? | 16:52 |
| minute | we posted an nlnet grant application for development of a reform touch prototype, but we'll probably hear from them only in december | 16:53 |
| jfred | Phones are extremely difficult. We tend to have greater expectations for them; a laptop that won't last through the day is fairly normal, a phone that won't last through the day is severely compromised | 16:53 |
| + erle__ (~erle@user/erle) | 16:54 | |
| - erle (QUIT: Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by erle__))) (~erle@user/erle) | 16:54 | |
| * erle__ -> erle | 16:55 | |
| minute | jfred: yeah the first step would be to make a "touch handheld" that is not expected to be a phone, but can do doomscrolling-on-the-sofa usecases | 16:57 |
| minute | jfred: also, SoC or SoC + coprocessor must be picked for instant-on (resume) action | 16:57 |
| - mark_ (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 17:01 | |
| jfred | yeah, makes sense | 17:01 |
| kensanata | My fear is that phones are cursed. | 17:02 |
| jfred | (incidentally that battery life is why I've never daily driven my Librem 5; I occasionally charge it up/update it and see how long it'll last while connected to my Matrix account, and it's never lasted through the day while being able to receive messages) | 17:04 |
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| + glu__ (~glu@91.141.39.172.wireless.dyn.drei.com) | 17:24 | |
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| * glu__ -> glu | 17:25 | |
| + colinsane (~colinunin@97-126-28-10.tukw.qwest.net) | 17:27 | |
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| BoostisBetter | minute: I don't think there is any official word, but all of the developers for PureOS have been laid off for months. Development work on PureOS Crimson and the phone have been stagnate for months. | 17:38 |
| BoostisBetter | minute: the company is in its last throws is what I think | 17:39 |
| minute | oh | 17:39 |
| minute | what happened to that robot? | 17:40 |
| jfred | heh, all mentions of it seem to be gone from the website | 17:41 |
| jfred | I hadn't heard that all the PureOS developers were gone, that's unfortunate | 17:42 |
| BoostisBetter | really is, because the Librem 5, while real bumpy at the start progressed quite well near the end. It worked almost always. | 18:03 |
| BoostisBetter | Of course the real expense to any product is the software side of the house. | 18:03 |
| - colinsane (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~colinunin@97-126-28-10.tukw.qwest.net) | 18:13 | |
| + colinsane (~colinunin@97-126-30-171.tukw.qwest.net) | 18:28 | |
| josch | jfred: +1 to phones are cursed | 18:40 |
| josch | i come from the openmoko times and have seen how that went up and died a very slow death including all the projects that tried to somehow continue it | 18:41 |
| josch | things are getting better i think but progress is very slow | 18:41 |
| ch | 'extremely difficult' as jfred said is a better description imo ;) | 18:43 |
| BoostisBetter | The Nokio N900 was how you do a Linux phone right. It was amazing, and even today is still quite amazing. | 18:44 |
| josch | ch: yes, it's probably a better description. For me, "cursed" fits because of how many years i threw into projects that never produced something that ended up to be meaningful... | 18:45 |
| josch | my interest in gnu/linux on mobile devices got me into the reform eco-system and its success keeps me excited that i *finally* found something which is bug-free enough to be a daily driver | 18:47 |
| amospalla | I had an n900, until its storage started to behave bad. I am pretty sure I won't have anything like that again. | 18:48 |
| kop316 | One positive note however has been that the Pinephone/L5 has kick started a limux mobile movement that, AFAICT, is here to stay. The Oneplus6/sdm845 phones are pretty close to usable, and the Pixel3a is working that way too. I have been on an L5 for almost 3 years now, and if/when that breaks down, I'll probably move to a 3a or OP6. Some of the devs that worked for Purism has also gotten other funding, and postmarketOS... | 18:49 |
| kop316 | ... looks to be healthier than ever. GNOME by default now works on the Phone and the Desktop thanks to libadwaita/GTK4, and any app that's made in there basically gets the adaptive for free | 18:49 |
| josch | yes, i've seen really great stuff about mobian as well | 18:49 |
| kop316 | josch: Mobian works pretty well too, but the devices it supports is far less. | 18:50 |
| kop316 | (I'm one of the folks that helps out with Mobian) | 18:50 |
| kop316 | but like you said, a Phone from scratch is _really_ hard. Fairphone seems to be going in the direction of supporting mainline linux from the start, same with qualcomm devices. | 18:52 |
| - chomwitt (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~chomwitt@2a02:587:7a16:a200:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 18:52 | |
| kop316 | Purism seems to just be trying to keep it's head above water, IMHO I think COVID really screwed them over (that caused a huge delay in getting L5s out there) | 18:52 |
| kop316 | Pine64 has burned a lot of developer good will, and I can't tell what they are trying to do anymore | 18:53 |
| kop316 | (I've personally been burned by their lack of QA and having several of their devices just die on me, they need to fix that first) | 18:53 |
| josch | kop316: i met mobian folks at the reproducible builds summit in hamburg -- the gui looks really polished! | 18:54 |
| kop316 | josch: Nice! yeah Guido does an awesome job with Phosh, and the Mobian folks do a great job with it. IMHO Purism should do what Mobian does with Debian: just have a light overlay over debian and focus only on the packages they need to. | 18:56 |
| BoostisBetter | The Librem 5 had so much potential. I really liked it. Mine is currently unable to unlock the encrypted drive because the touchscreen doesn't work and a USB keyboard isn't recognized. I just am tired of having to flash the thing and pissed off about the waste of time. | 18:56 |
| kop316 | BoostisBetter: what OS are you on? | 18:56 |
| kop316 | If it isn't a hardware issue, try Mobian or pmOS. Several of the mobian devs use an L5 daily (myself included). | 18:57 |
| jfred | I should take another look at mobian I guess | 18:59 |
| jfred | for a while it felt like pureos and mobian were pretty similar so I stuck with pureos, but mobian's probably got more life in it these days | 19:00 |
| jfred | I'd still also love to see Guix on mobile devices, but that's a niche within a niche and I should get it running on my Reform first XD | 19:01 |
| kop316 | jfred: PureOS defineitely had more specific L5 patches, and that did matter with Gtk3/Libhandy. But now with GTK4/Libadwaita that matters a lot less, and many of those specific patches have been upstreamed. I use Trixie on my Phone | 19:01 |
| kop316 | there still is a issue with echo in calls with the L5....no one has had the time to fix it specifically. I looked into it earlier thisyear but never figured itout. | 19:02 |
| kop316 | right now I just use headphones on my L5 when I make a call | 19:02 |
| BoostisBetter | > BoostisBetter: what OS are you on? | 19:03 |
| BoostisBetter | Byzantine (PureOS) | 19:03 |
| BoostisBetter | I'm just tired of the phone. I had to reflash and fix so much crap on that thing. | 19:03 |
| BoostisBetter | I'm burnt out. | 19:03 |
| kop316 | BoostisBetter: I'd say give Mobian or pmOS a shot if you decide to try it again. I get being tired of that though..... | 19:03 |
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| - bkeys (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~Thunderbi@72.sub-97-150-200.myvzw.com) | 19:11 | |
| + buckket (~buckket@vps.buckket.org) | 19:12 | |
| jfred | kop316: how's the battery life on the L5 these days? any changes in newer debian/mobian versions that have an impact or is it basically the same as it would have been on pureos? | 19:14 |
| kop316 | jfred: It's a bit better with active usage, I would say if I am actively using it I get ~5-6 hours. However, in suspend mode, I can get well over 12 hours standby time | 19:14 |
| kop316 | (after 12 hours I am at like ....40%?) | 19:15 |
| jfred | (speaking of, I've been sitting at a coffee shop with my rk3588 reform for about an hour now and it's only down to 85%. haven't used it much undocked yet, so this is nice to see) | 19:15 |
| jfred | kop316: that's a full suspend mode that disconnects it from the network, yeah? so e.g. no matrix clients connected while in suspend? | 19:16 |
| kop316 | but TBH in a normal day, the L5 sits on a charger at home or in an office.....so it's not like battery life is too important for me. and If I know I am going out for an entire day I bring a battery carger just in case | 19:16 |
| kop316 | jfred: it's still connected, but the issue is that there's no way for it to come out of suspend to let a user know something happened. There's a workaround (i.e., a script that wakes up the L5 to see if there's anything then it goes back to sleep) | 19:17 |
| jfred | oh interesting | 19:18 |
| kop316 | for SMS/Calls, the modem will wake the phone from suspend which is why you get those notifications | 19:18 |
| kop316 | for me, really only SMS/MMS/Calls are important, so I don't care, but I know for others that is important | 19:18 |
| jfred | oh right, I guess I wasn't specific enough... connected to the mobile network, but does it disconnect from wifi while suspended? | 19:18 |
| + mark_ (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 19:19 | |
| kop316 | jfred: i don't know actually. | 19:19 |
| kop316 | I would assume its the same behavior that debian does | 19:19 |
| kop316 | (at least for mobian) | 19:21 |
| - Bertl (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (herbert@IRC.13thfloor.at) | 19:31 | |
| kop316 | actually, I can test! I suspended it and just tried pinging it, and I get no response | 19:32 |
| kop316 | I can't ssh to it either | 19:33 |
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| + jacobk_ (~quassel@47-186-105-237.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net) | 19:39 | |
| BoostisBetter | Bummer | 19:40 |
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| + _justin_kelly0 (~justinkel@user/justin-kelly/x-6011154) | 19:47 | |
| staticbunny | whaaat just adjusted my antennas on my pocket and got upto 62MB/s | 19:48 |
| - mjw (QUIT: Killed (tantalum.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))) (~mjw@2001:1c06:2486:a800:7602:5eff:dc71:a72c) | 19:53 | |
| * mark_ -> mjw | 19:53 | |
| + Guest1395 (~mjw@2001:1c06:2486:a800:7602:5eff:dc71:a72c) | 19:53 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@72.sub-97-150-200.myvzw.com) | 20:10 | |
| BoostisBetter | minute: josch: since u-boot isn't working on the Pocket quite yet, how can we select a kernel to boot from on it? | 20:13 |
| BoostisBetter | staticbunny: awesome! | 20:13 |
| staticbunny | pretty crazy, https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/69a32694-9f9a-4242-a8cf-ba6b705109be | 20:17 |
| mhoye | Is there room on the Pocket for an external antenna? | 20:17 |
| staticbunny | i created a 3D printed cover with holes for one | 20:17 |
| + vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:20) | 20:18 | |
| staticbunny | the back of the antenna mount gets squished if you dont have angled RP-SMA adapters though | 20:18 |
| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:587:7a16:a200:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 20:18 | |
| staticbunny | im currently using internal antennas on the inside of a pretty thin 3D printed cover with a copper plate | 20:19 |
| vagrantc | huh, seems the compose key is just acting as another control key ... not that i often have need of the compose key... | 20:25 |
| staticbunny | whats the compose key? ive also noticed some weird behavior with some of the keys | 20:25 |
| staticbunny | meta + q = ~ | 20:26 |
| - jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 276 seconds) (~quassel@47-186-105-237.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net) | 20:26 | |
| + jacobk (~quassel@47-186-105-237.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net) | 20:26 | |
| staticbunny | some keys do nothing with meta and others are ~ or {}[] | 20:28 |
| staticbunny | i've been meaning to look at matrix.h and the handbook to make sure im not misunderstanding whats going on | 20:29 |
| - chrcav (QUIT: Quit: Lost terminal) (~chrcav@user/chrcav) | 20:38 | |
| BoostisBetter | I manually modified the boot.scr file to force the loading of the 6.11.5 kernel and now my pocket doesn't boot at all | 20:41 |
| BoostisBetter | Anyway to recover without reinstall everything? | 20:42 |
| + chrcav (~chrcav@user/chrcav) | 20:44 | |
| BoostisBetter | Anyway to recover without reinstalling everything? | 20:49 |
| ch | boot from sd, fix boot.scr on the emmc | 20:53 |
| ch | or try a serial console | 20:53 |
| BoostisBetter | will the pocket boot simply from having a sd card in it? | 20:55 |
| ch | yes | 20:55 |
| ch | well, an sd card with the correct image | 20:55 |
| hramrach | bott.scr cannot be manually modified, it has some checksum somewhere | 21:02 |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Quit: With every step we take, danger will follow closely) (~Thunderbi@72.sub-97-150-200.myvzw.com) | 21:02 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@72.sub-97-150-200.myvzw.com) | 21:03 | |
| - colinsane (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~colinunin@97-126-30-171.tukw.qwest.net) | 21:08 | |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Quit: With every step we take, danger will follow closely) (~Thunderbi@72.sub-97-150-200.myvzw.com) | 21:12 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@72.sub-97-150-200.myvzw.com) | 21:13 | |
| - _justin_kelly0 (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~justinkel@user/justin-kelly/x-6011154) | 21:14 | |
| + _justin_kelly0 (~justinkel@user/justin-kelly/x-6011154) | 21:17 | |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Quit: With every step we take, danger will follow closely) (~Thunderbi@72.sub-97-150-200.myvzw.com) | 21:23 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@72.sub-97-150-200.myvzw.com) | 21:23 | |
| BoostisBetter | well that is a bummer. Guess the pocket will be out of commision for a while | 21:29 |
| BoostisBetter | hramrach: so I change it back to the way it was, it should work again? | 21:30 |
| BoostisBetter | I change 6.11.9 to 6.11.5 | 21:30 |
| BoostisBetter | I changed 6.11.9 to 6.11.5 | 21:30 |
| - _justin_kelly0 (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~justinkel@user/justin-kelly/x-6011154) | 21:31 | |
| + _justin_kelly0 (~justinkel@user/justin-kelly/x-6011154) | 21:33 | |
| ch | if you do a fully featured chroot, shouldnt flash-kernel fix it? | 21:39 |
| BoostisBetter | ch, sorry I'm kind of a noob at chroot | 21:41 |
| BoostisBetter | right now the thing doesn't boot at all. Keyboard lights up due to power on, but screen stays dark. | 21:41 |
| BoostisBetter | so because I screwed up teh checksum on boot.scr it is not even trying to boot with it. | 21:41 |
| BoostisBetter | So when I have some time, I'll just try to boot with the sd and fix the boot.scr file | 21:42 |
| hramrach | yes, creating it from scratch with flash-kernel is more likely to work than trying to change it back | 21:43 |
| BoostisBetter | ok, so to get flash-kernel to work, I need to use a chroot? | 21:44 |
| hramrach | it's more likely to do the right thing if your system looks like what you will be booting, that is using chroot to enter the system on the emmc | 21:46 |
| hramrach | https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Chroot | 21:47 |
| BoostisBetter | thank you! | 21:49 |
| - _justin_kelly0 (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~justinkel@user/justin-kelly/x-6011154) | 21:59 | |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Quit: With every step we take, danger will follow closely) (~Thunderbi@72.sub-97-150-200.myvzw.com) | 22:00 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@72.sub-97-150-200.myvzw.com) | 22:00 | |
| + _justin_kelly0 (~justinkel@user/justin-kelly/x-6011154) | 22:01 | |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~Thunderbi@72.sub-97-150-200.myvzw.com) | 22:04 | |
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| + GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) | 22:25 | |
| - mjw (QUIT: Quit: Leaving) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 22:31 | |
| - kensanata (QUIT: Quit: OK) (~alex@user/kensanata) | 22:36 | |
| - jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~quassel@47-186-105-237.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net) | 22:37 | |
| + kensanata (~alex@user/kensanata) | 22:37 | |
| + Bertl (herbert@IRC.13thfloor.at) | 22:38 | |
| + mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 22:51 | |
| + midfavila (midfavila@freeshell.org) | 22:56 | |
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| - _justin_kelly0 (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~justinkel@user/justin-kelly/x-6011154) | 23:21 | |
| + nsc (~nicolas@i5C74DCCD.versanet.de) | 23:22 | |
| + _justin_kelly0 (~justinkel@user/justin-kelly/x-6011154) | 23:24 | |
| - _justin_kelly0 (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~justinkel@user/justin-kelly/x-6011154) | 23:39 | |
| + _justin_kelly0 (~justinkel@user/justin-kelly/x-6011154) | 23:41 | |
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