| staticbunny | is there any documentation on remapping keys for the pocket? | 00:07 |
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| staticbunny | also, would it be possible to add an addtional menu option to the oled for different keyboard profiles? | 00:09 |
| hramrach | there isn't really remapping support. There was some attempt at simple key swaps https://source.mnt.re/gustav/reform/-/tree/gustav/ctrl-super-swap-modes?ref_type=heads | 00:34 |
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| staticbunny | thanks i'll take a look | 00:37 |
| staticbunny | it would be nice if the keyboard controller used QMK. | 00:38 |
| staticbunny | since QMK supports RP2040 | 00:38 |
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| vagrantc | ok, swapped the new keyboard and trackball into the mnt/reform! seem to work like a charm. I do seem to have lost wifi though, though iu cannot remember the last time i tried to use wifi so it could have been something else ... or i just bumped something wrong while updating the keyboard and trackball... | 01:19 |
| vagrantc | and eventually the rk3588 upgrade to come ... | 01:20 |
| vagrantc | keyboard appears to be R3 a8e8a60a | 01:21 |
| vagrantc | all sorts of opinions and whatnot ... would really be nice to be able to see the oled display with the lid closed ... as i watch for battery charge status after having yanked the batteries | 01:22 |
| vagrantc | seems like the standalone keyboard and the installed keyboard have different revisions | 01:22 |
| vagrantc | according to circle-s | 01:23 |
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| josch | minute: forum user digitalrayne tested imx8mplus u-boot from here successfully: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-imx8mp-uboot/-/merge_requests/3 | 07:18 |
| josch | minute: can you press the merge button? :) | 07:18 |
| josch | since merging branches does not add tags, afterwards you'd also have to manually run "git tag 2024-11-14" | 07:18 |
| josch | thank you! | 07:18 |
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| josch | (pong) | 10:45 |
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| minute | reform next metal https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/113486759488037767 | 12:47 |
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| josch | another silver reform! \o/ | 13:09 |
| josch | oh there are also black and purple! | 13:10 |
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| jfred | I'm really looking forward to seeing what the purple reform next will look like :) | 15:38 |
| Twodisbetter | minute: very very cool | 15:39 |
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| jfred | oh and I only just saw the alt text on the second photo pointing out the purple one hiding in the corner haha | 16:09 |
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| xha | does anyone know how i can make linux on the pocket reform w/ rk3588 output the dmesg to serial? specifically, i am pretty sure the kernel panics (that it expected, i broke it on purpose :D), but it does not show anything on serial | 17:47 |
| xha | i should mention that i already tried adding "console=ttyS2,1500000n8" onto the u-boot bootargs | 17:57 |
| hramrach | xha: can you get output on the serial console with echo? | 18:00 |
| hramrach | also if it panics very early you may need earlycon | 18:00 |
| xha | is a panic in the gpu driver early? | 18:01 |
| xha | yes, i can output to the serial console with echo | 18:01 |
| xha | have to set it to 1500000 baud first but then it works | 18:02 |
| xha | (using stty) | 18:02 |
| hramrach | hopefully gpu gets initialized after serial but who knows | 18:02 |
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| hramrach | n8 is probably implied, and not sure the syntax is correct, might work better without | 18:05 |
| hramrach | generally it's better to work this out before crashing the kernel, then you know that no output means it crashed before setting up console | 18:06 |
| xha | ahh, well, now it works with "console=ttyS2,1500000n8 console=ttyS2 loglevel=7", with a different kernel | 18:07 |
| xha | had to append the console=ttyS2, for whatever reason | 18:07 |
| hramrach | probably because that syntax is indeed incorrect | 18:07 |
| xha | i see | 18:09 |
| xha | well, i think i broke something when building a custom kernel. will have to figure that out first, but thanks :) | 18:09 |
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| minute | xha: i always do keep_bootcon | 19:33 |
| minute | chatting from my mnt reform next | 19:33 |
| xha | ok, thanks, i'll try that out! | 19:34 |
| xha | that is really cool! :D | 19:35 |
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| minute | incredible repair guides for pocket reform published by iFixit https://www.ifixit.com/Device/MNT_Pocket_Reform | 21:37 |
| + reform13651 (~michael@h081217090069.dyn.cm.kabsi.at) | 21:50 | |
| jfred | :O | 21:51 |
| jfred | I'm curious what went into that repairability score/why it only got an 8/10 | 21:54 |
| minute | jfred: same | 21:57 |
| jfred | it could just be due to the extra time it can take to open the bottom to disconnect the batteries when working on the top half. their repair score seems to include service time estimates: https://www.ifixit.com/News/75533/how-ifixit-scores-repairability | 22:05 |
| jfred | actually, it's interesting that they recommend completely removing the batteries when replacing the processor module: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MNT+Pocket+Reform+Processor+Module+Replacement/178353 | 22:07 |
| jfred | abundance of caution? | 22:07 |
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| mhoye | With the exposed metal brackets in my 1stgen Reform, it's alarmingly easy to short stuff by accident | 22:32 |
| mhoye | I see a few people who've put heatshrink tubing around the brackets just in case. | 22:33 |
| digitalrane | lol they give the framework 10/10 | 22:41 |
| digitalrane | which doesn't publish schematics like mnt does | 22:41 |
| josch | it seems that ifixit put focus on the service-time thing as explained in the link above. They draw this diagram and then pay attention to how often you have to switch tools etc | 22:42 |
| digitalrane | except for the little modules, but i can't see how this repairability score is a reliable measure of repairability | 22:42 |
| digitalrane | i guess reparability means different things when you sell parts to repair companies | 22:45 |
| digitalrane | that's my slightly conspiratorial view anyway lol | 22:45 |
| digitalrane | perhaps a servicability score would make more sense for them | 22:46 |
| josch | does anybody have an idea about this issue? https://community.mnt.re/t/rcore-rk3588-cpu-and-reform2-lpc-problem/2740/1 | 22:56 |
| hramrach | speaking of that framework does seem to designe for serviceability. Like the display bezel is held by magnets which keeps it perfectly aligned but at the same time easy to remove | 22:57 |
| ch | doesnt look like a problem with the module as reform2_lpc did get loaded | 22:58 |
| hramrach | their keyboard is held by like 40 screws, though | 22:58 |
| hramrach | I think that 'error' is merely a notice that the module is not signed with a key the kernel knows about | 23:00 |
| hramrach | I see that in the log as well | 23:00 |
| josch | yes, i don't understand what the problem is | 23:01 |
| hramrach | likely the reference count underflow is symptom of some driver bug | 23:04 |
| ch | needs more logs probably | 23:04 |
| hramrach | this should not happen [ 5.227934] rockchip-spi feb10000.spi: Runtime PM usage count underflow! | 23:05 |
| hramrach | but it's not clear what is causing it, and if it's related to the observed problem even | 23:06 |
| ch | ah .spi | 23:06 |
| ch | probably, then | 23:06 |
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