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| AbortRetryFail | Would it be possible to use QMK with how the keyboard needs to interact with the system controller? | 01:48 |
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| NanoCodeBug | i re-added the lower frequencies for the rk3588 to the debian unstable kernel - and am seeing no immprovement in powersaving, even when forcing it down to 400mhz. it still idles around 5.9w powerdraw as measure at the usb-c input | 03:10 |
| NanoCodeBug | given the lower temperatures at the same time - i'm guessing most of the additional powerdraw is from other chips in the rcore maybe - things that are not within the soc itself | 03:12 |
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| * mark_ -> mjw | 11:43 | |
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| noam | Has anyone figured out an easy solution to the side ports leaving a gap? | 12:37 |
| noam | Put on the steel port covers just now and there's still enough of a gap by e.g. the SD card slot for bugs to climb in | 12:37 |
| noam | That's _not_ a theoretical problem, unfortunately >_< | 12:37 |
| networkstring | As in there's a gap between the plate and the chassis or the gap of the ports themselves? | 12:41 |
| noam | Gap between the cover and the port | 12:42 |
| noam | The ports aren't flush with the edge of the chassis | 12:42 |
| ch | i put kapton tape there, after i lost an sd card in the gap | 12:42 |
| networkstring | Would https://thepihut.com/products/silicone-usb-c-dust-cover-inserts-10-pack work? | 12:43 |
| noam | nio | 12:43 |
| noam | because it's not USB-C?? | 12:43 |
| hramrach | with an ATX backplate there is also a gap | 12:43 |
| noam | And the gap is still there even if e.g. there's an SD card in | 12:44 |
| noam | hramrach: sure, but I don't sit in the grass with an ATX machine :P | 12:44 |
| noam | ch: I don't have enough of a gap on mine for that to happen, which makes me wonder how the tolerances vary... | 12:44 |
| networkstring | I was suggesting more the concept of 'in port' dust covers than specifically using usb-c ones for the SD slot :) | 12:45 |
| hramrach | not sure what the precision of fitting those connectors on the PCB is | 12:45 |
| noam | networkstring: ahh lol, yeah even so it wouldn't really help | 12:45 |
| noam | Ideally, the plates would just be a bit thicker, and extend a few mm further into the reform | 12:46 |
| networkstring | Would something like sugru help? | 12:46 |
| noam | Maybe. I considered just adding some mass with hot glue :P | 12:46 |
| hramrach | I do not think thicker plates would help in general, there is also some tolerance in placing the mainboard into the case | 12:47 |
| hramrach | Some plastic shaped to fit specifically on the connectors might help making the gaps smaller, it could fit around the connector, not only the front | 12:48 |
| noam | That's what I'm considering doing, yeah | 12:49 |
| noam | Might legit just do hot glue - remove backplate, measure, restore backplate; remove sideplates, apply glue to measured dimensions, let sit, restore | 12:49 |
| noam | Probably easier than 3d printing | 12:50 |
| hramrach | I recall some PC cases using some sort of gray metallic fabric instead of springs for bridging the gaps such as between mainboard and backplate. Not sure what material that is | 12:57 |
| minute | noam: maybe a piece of foam with a slit for the card? | 13:02 |
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| noam | Hmm | 14:11 |
| + mark_ (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 14:53 | |
| ch | minute: what do you think about hramrach's suggestion of using a block of flash space as a sort-of otp/configblock to store the display version? | 15:11 |
| ch | minute: i can see how we could make upgrades work (after implementation anf testing), but i'm less sure how it will fit into your profuction process. do you flash a custom fw anyway? | 15:12 |
| minute | ch: yes, i like the idea and it would fit, we would need to reflash anyway | 15:27 |
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| ryukazou | Will JDI LT070ME05000 and Wisecoco TOP070F01A (with adapter) be interchangeable or do they need different firmware? | 16:23 |
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| ch | compiling fwupd is noticably faster <3 | 17:01 |
| minute | ryukazou: they will need different sysctl firmware | 17:02 |
| minute | ch: oh nice! i lost track of the fwupd situation in the last week, how is it going? | 17:03 |
| ch | minute: upstream convinced me that i should do a generic rp-pico plugin for now, so i'm giving that a try | 17:12 |
| ch | this has probably a few advantes, but i need to wrap my head around it | 17:14 |
| minute | ch: like, you should write one or there is one that they want you to adapt? | 17:15 |
| ch | minute: well, generalize the plugin i wrote to work not just for mntre devices; and adapt hughsie's draft patch for sysctl to identify itself to fwupd as updatable using the generic plugin | 17:16 |
| minute | ch: ohh ok! are you cool with working on these things? | 17:17 |
| ch | minute: yeah. just not finding the time during the last few weeks (personal things ongoing). i'll try to get some stuff done today (before leaving for krakow on wednesday til monday) | 17:21 |
| minute | ch: neat. tell me if i should test or decide anything or such | 17:22 |
| ryukazou | minute: Will there be documentation about how to convert JDI LT070ME05000 to Wisecoco TOP070F01A in future? | 17:23 |
| + glu__ (~glu@91.141.33.201.wireless.dyn.drei.com) | 17:24 | |
| minute | ryukazou: yes | 17:24 |
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| * glu__ -> glu | 17:25 | |
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| ch | ok fwupd side is looking good | 19:10 |
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| ch | minute: mind enabling CI on my pocket-reform fork? need to test some of the CI integration bits | 19:20 |
| minute | ch: sure, one sec | 19:21 |
| minute | ch: done | 19:22 |
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| ch | minute: thanks | 19:35 |
| ch | looks like i need to battle with cmake, ugh | 19:35 |
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| Twodisbetter | just moved my display cable out the way for the wifi cable and here is to hoping it improves performance. Wasn't that big of an issue for me though because I am normally pretty close to the AP | 20:18 |
| Twodisbetter | how is everyone else doing with their Pocket's? Is anybody using theirs for any sort of development work? | 20:19 |
| ch | well i do, but mostly over ssh at the moment | 20:23 |
| Twodisbetter | as in your ssh'ing into your pocket? Very cool | 20:24 |
| ch | yeah | 20:25 |
| minute | when at home i "dock" the pocket with my dell u2724de (which is networked) and then use my reform on my tv to watch stuff over sshfs that is on the pocket's drive ^^ | 20:28 |
| minute | i.e. pocket is desk computer, reform is sofa-side (media) computer at the moment | 20:28 |
| ch | minute: if you want to try out fwupd for sysctl: https://source.mnt.re/zeha/pocket-reform/-/wikis/fwupd-testing | 20:28 |
| josch | ch: reminds me to do a new round of uploads of picotool and friends... | 20:29 |
| josch | ch: would you like me to upload to experimental first so that you can maybe easily test it before i push them to unstable? | 20:30 |
| ch | josch: if next week is fine, then sure :) | 20:30 |
| josch | next week is totally fine :) | 20:31 |
| josch | new versions have support for the RP2350 is is not (yet) important for the reform but a lot of refactoring was done upsteram | 20:31 |
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| + cow321 (~deflated8@user/meow/deflated8837) | 20:38 | |
| ch | it's sooo good to seeing updating with fwupdtool work without any obvious problems | 20:39 |
| ch | hughsie might even merge it as is, lets see | 20:39 |
| minute | ch: wow | 20:41 |
| josch | ch: this is really amazing thank you! | 20:44 |
| josch | unfortunately i'm still stuck with classic reform XD | 20:44 |
| josch | (with the old keyboard) | 20:44 |
| ch | what type of hardware is that? | 20:47 |
| josch | ch: ATMEGA32U4-AU | 20:48 |
| josch | and to flash the motherboard on the classic reform you need a second computer, so not as much of a point int fwupd support | 20:50 |
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| minute | josch: oohhh didn't we send you the kbd4 yet | 21:07 |
| josch | minute: i only have keyboard v3 but i'm using it as an external keyboard together with the trackball in a 3d printed classic reform bottom case | 21:08 |
| ch | sysctl on reform is not usb-connected to the soc? | 21:08 |
| ch | (really havent checked the schematics) | 21:08 |
| ch | i guess keyboard could work with fwupd | 21:08 |
| josch | minute: there was the project to add a trackstick to one of your reform keyboard 4.0 pre-production boards to see if/how it would work, yes. | 21:08 |
| josch | ch: yes, but somebody would have to write the integration for atmega and i don't feel motivated enough to do this if i only have one of those, one 3.0 and soon a 4.0 :) | 21:09 |
| ch | heh | 21:09 |
| ch | well, the relevant part is getting it into dfu mode. fwupd already has dfu support in general | 21:09 |
| josch | ch: yes, but there is also a shell script that automates this for you by pressing circle+x in flash.sh | 21:11 |
| josch | not saying it wouldn't be useful (it would be neat) but for me there are more important projects on the todo list :) | 21:11 |
| ch | right | 21:12 |
| josch | minute: was imx8mp-mnt-pocket-reform/audio/0000-revert-crashy-audiomix-pm-support.patch upstreamed or in the process of being upstreamed? | 21:17 |
| josch | minute: this looks very similar but is not identical: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=1496dd413b2e0974a040fa93a2ddc51cc9847fd8 | 21:17 |
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| anzu | Hi, my headphone jack connection seems to not work, but bluetooth headphones work, on A311D. Not working means it is not shown in the volume control, and dmesg shows no message about it whatsoever. | 21:49 |
| anzu | Does someone know if there is a kernel module or so that I might have to load? | 21:49 |
| anzu | I just found this error message in dmesg: fe.dai-link-1: ASoC: no backend DAIs enabled for fe.dai-link-1, possibly missing ALSA mixer-based routing or UCM profile | 21:51 |
| josch | anzu: what does this output: | 21:51 |
| josch | pactl --format=json list sinks | jq -r '.[] | select(.name == "alsa_output.platform-sound.stereo-fallback") | .active_port' | 21:51 |
| anzu | josch: one line: analog-output-speaker | 21:52 |
| josch | anzu: do you get output on your headphones after running this: pactl set-sink-port alsa_output.platform-sound.stereo-fallback analog-output-speaker | 21:53 |
| josch | anzu: i assume you are on classic reform, yes? | 21:55 |
| anzu | Jup, big reform | 21:55 |
| anzu | The output remains in the internal speakers | 21:55 |
| josch | anzu: err sorry, that was the command to activate analog-output-speaker | 21:57 |
| josch | you want headphones | 21:57 |
| josch | pactl set-sink-port alsa_output.platform-sound.stereo-fallback analog-output-headphones | 21:57 |
| anzu | Right, I was a bit confused, but didnt say anything :D | 21:59 |
| anzu | That made it work, thanks! | 21:59 |
| anzu | I suppose a similar command will make microphones work :) | 21:59 |
| anzu | The A311D does not recognize if something is plugged in? | 22:00 |
| josch | https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/issues/8 | 22:00 |
| anzu | Or the motherboard, rather | 22:00 |
| josch | anzu: this problem has existed since the beginning and is only really fixed properly on the upcoming motherboard 3.0 | 22:00 |
| anzu | I see, thanks! | 22:01 |
| josch | anzu: another alternative is to use 9front which sigrid confirmed can do jack sensing reliably in contrast to linux | 22:01 |
| anzu | I even have a colleague who collaborates on 9front software, from whom I learned about the mnt project anyway ^^ | 22:04 |
| anzu | Takeaway is to look into the git repo more often when I have issues :) | 22:05 |
| josch | nah, ask here first unless nobody is awake (yet) | 22:05 |
| josch | anzu: on linux, i'm calling this script from my waybar: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/9fc9b93f/ | 22:08 |
| josch | with that i can switch between speaker and headphones with a click on a button | 22:08 |
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| anzu | josch: Very cool, I added this to my scripts! | 22:17 |
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