| mhoye | josch: it improved significantly after barely a day of use. | 00:27 |
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| josch | mhoye: it's so glossy, i can see why the sensor doesn't like it right now :D | 00:39 |
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| staticbunny | does anyone happen to have cad files for the top/bottom covers for the pocket? i don't have an easy way to convert the pcb file | 02:50 |
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| staticbunny | test | 02:58 |
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| staticbunny | does anyone happen to have cad files for the top/bottom covers for the pocket? i don't have an easy way to convert the pcb file | 03:00 |
| staticbunny | sorry if thats a duplicate, playing with my tmux/tiny setup | 03:00 |
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| amospalla | Twodisbetter: I read that "dpms off" on your pocket does not turn your display on. This happens me too, and I thought it was because something related to be using Debian stable. Is that your case? Just wondering. | 09:17 |
| amospalla | I will end setting the brightness screen instead of the dpms. | 09:19 |
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| xha | does anyone have a working u-boot build for the pocket reform w/ rk3588 that has a timeout bigger than 0? i am slowly going insane having to reboot 5 times just to get a chance to get a shell :D | 10:12 |
| hramrach | ch:, josch: Tchankd for testing and merging | 10:12 |
| amospalla | Twodisbetter: I modified swayidle to use brightnessctl instead of dpms: swayidle timeout 600 'brightnessctl -s && brightnessctl s 0' resume 'brightnessctl -r' | 10:38 |
| josch | hramrach: thank you for the nice patch! :) | 10:38 |
| Twodisbetter | amospalla: thanks! Need to get swayidle doing that as well on wayfire. | 10:38 |
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| josch | hramrach: do you have an account on community.mnt.re? | 11:17 |
| josch | wanted to @-mention you and didn't find your nick :) | 11:17 |
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| hramrach | josch: https://community.mnt.re/u/michals | 11:28 |
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| josch | oooh right, i used to know that, thank you! :) | 11:33 |
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| grimmware | josch: hey, question for you, my accelerometer mod now uses the reform2_lpc.ko which is distributed in reform-tools. I'm assuming that's likely to get clobbered by subsequent updates and be difficult to maintain. Do you think that's accurate? | 12:17 |
| + paperManu (~paperManu@198.16.214.40) | 12:22 | |
| josch | grimmware: if you are writing files to locations owned by a package you have installed then yes, that location will be overwritten with what the actual package ships the next time you upgrade that package | 12:23 |
| grimmware | yeah that's not ideal, it means that if you do sysctl mods that include a component of talking to the sysctl over SPI you're going to constantly be fighting upstream | 12:24 |
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| josch | grimmware: so... file a MR? :) | 12:25 |
| grimmware | I'll have a look in to whether this can be broken out to a separate module but I don't know if it's possible to have two modules accessing the same spi (I have no idea about this at all) | 12:25 |
| grimmware | yeah equally that means everyone who wants to put in a mod has to get it merged upstream! | 12:26 |
| grimmware | to be fair, I could actually merge all of these changes upstream such that others just have to do the hardware mod though as it can be gated on i2c scan | 12:27 |
| josch | grimmware: but this applies to other software as well. If I have a custom version of inkscape, then that will be overwritten every time i upgrade the inkscape package until i manage to submit my changes upstream. | 12:27 |
| grimmware | josch: yeah that's fair but in this case every *unrelated* change in reform-tools clobbers the lpc | 12:28 |
| josch | grimmware: people who do not want to merge their things upstream usually maintain their own repos with forks of the package | 12:28 |
| josch | grimmware: can you not change reform_lpc such that it includes support for your setup but does nothing for users who do not have accelerometers attached? | 12:29 |
| josch | grimmware: otherwise, we'd probably have to start building some sort of plugin architecture? | 12:29 |
| grimmware | I mean it does yeah, but it assumes that nobody else is going to use the 'a' command in the sysctl | 12:29 |
| grimmware | I suppose I got there first? | 12:30 |
| grimmware | like if that's an acceptable answer fine by me. | 12:30 |
| josch | grimmware: i think that's something minute should decide | 12:31 |
| grimmware | yeah, fair | 12:31 |
| grimmware | thanks for talking it through with me at any rate :) | 12:31 |
| grimmware | to be fair, 'a' for accelerometer is not unfair and `spi_arg1` is a whole byte with which we can specify multiple different *types* of accelerometer - currently I'm using 1 bit of it to specify *which* accelerometer (lid or base) | 12:32 |
| josch | grimmware: sure thing! personally, i think there are enough characters in ascii to add mods like yours into reform2_lpc.ko :) | 12:33 |
| grimmware | cool, I agree! | 12:33 |
| grimmware | there's an opportunity here to lay the groundwork to have the sysctl auto-detect certain i2c devices with minimal amount of code and also to set a standard for how reform2_lpc queries for them (e.g. set `spi_arg1` to like 255 to have the response tell you which `spi_arg1` you should use for the installed device or "we don't have one of them") | 12:36 |
| grimmware | that's obviously not a problem for right now but essentially it means there's an onward path so to speak | 12:37 |
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| [tj] | anyone have a good sense for how long crowdsupply shipping to the uk was taking? | 13:56 |
| [tj] | I'm not sure that if my pocket ships as protected I'll be home for it arriving | 13:57 |
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| grimmware | [tj]: | 16:14 |
| grimmware | ffs | 16:14 |
| grimmware | I got a shipping notification on the 19th of July and it arrived on the 23rd | 16:14 |
| [tj] | ta | 16:14 |
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| josch | mhoye: you are right! Today, 24 hours later, the trackball sensor registers every motion perfectly! | 18:37 |
| sknebel | "seasoning" trackballs is now a thing? ;) | 18:40 |
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| josch | hrm... i think it might be a tad less shiny now than it was before | 18:42 |
| josch | maybe it got roughened up a bit by the small steel balls inside the cup? | 18:42 |
| mhoye | sknebel: I wasn't going to call it that but that's what I'm going to call it now. | 19:14 |
| sknebel | :D | 19:15 |
| mhoye | josch: It's unreasonably good though, isn't it? So smooth! | 19:20 |
| josch | mhoye: i think i forgot how bad the old ball was -- i have to compare again later tonight :D | 19:21 |
| josch | but yes, sensor readings seem to be perfect now | 19:21 |
| josch | and it's very shiny | 19:21 |
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| mhoye | So, on my 1st gen reform I need to admit that the trackball came out of the box pretty janky. Some dust on the assembly, whatever it was. | 19:36 |
| mhoye | It didn't occur to me to open it up to clean the inside - I haven't cleaned gunk out of a mouse ball housing in ages, so retro! - and I don't think there was a line in the manual that specifically said, if you want to clean off the sensor it's just the two screws on top. | 19:37 |
| mhoye | (If that's not true, sorry minute I overlooked it! If it is true, I'll figure out where to send a patch.) | 19:38 |
| mhoye | But once I'd sorted that out, to replace the plastic ball with Si3N4, the whole experience is just unreasonably better. | 19:40 |
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| hramrach | SiN ball :) | 20:03 |
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