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josch | minute: i think/hope this might fix things: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/merge_requests/95/diffs?commit_id=158619c53d9d3278fc1f0cbe2640e14e2a8f568d | 00:09 |
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josch | i would very much welcome if somebody affected by this could test this | 00:09 |
josch | are you affected? type this to find out: | 00:10 |
josch | find /etc \( \! -type l \) -perm /o+w | 00:10 |
minute | josch: on my pocket reform, this doesn't yield any results | 00:11 |
josch | good | 00:11 |
josch | on current system images, this lists quite a few things | 00:12 |
minute | i get one result in /usr, /usr/share/reform-setup-wizard/reform-setup-sway-config | 00:12 |
minute | but i might have messed with that file on my device | 00:12 |
josch | no, that's another affected file | 00:12 |
josch | but it's harmless and the file should probably be removed by the wizard after it's successful? | 00:13 |
minute | yeah it's not super critical | 00:13 |
minute | on my reform which has a kind of ancient-evolution system, no results in /etc | 00:13 |
minute | josch: do we know since when this is supposedly happening? | 00:15 |
josch | minute: no, since this is not a property of the scripts but of the system running the scripts | 00:15 |
josch | namely, the default umask when doing the git clone | 00:15 |
minute | hmm | 00:16 |
josch | similarly, on the reform-system-image size, this should be the fix: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/merge_requests/113/diffs?commit_id=9e52f30d4a0b59e212d015e364fe7890a3c4b6db | 00:17 |
minute | josch: feel free to merge! | 00:20 |
minute | josch: does it make sense to also add the find oneliner as a test case at the end? | 00:21 |
josch | yeah, i need to merge the reform-syste-image change before the reform-tools changes or otherwise the reform-tools changes will mask the problems in reform-system-image :) | 00:21 |
josch | minute: that's already part of the same MR | 00:21 |
josch | sorry it is not | 00:21 |
josch | it's already in main: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/commit/92142307557722b2d5d2cce1edba28505dbe868d | 00:21 |
minute | josch: nice! | 00:22 |
josch | (and obviously made the build fail 17 hours ago) | 00:22 |
josch | i was already at it yesterday | 00:23 |
josch | but then other life stuff got in the way... :/ | 00:23 |
minute | i see :3 well no problem, thanks for putting all the effort into this | 00:23 |
josch | sorry for the mess... :/ | 00:23 |
minute | np! | 00:24 |
josch | minute: could you enable the gitlab CI pipeline for https://source.mnt.re/hramrach/reform-tools | 00:24 |
josch | it seems that gitlab does not show me a merge button if there is no successful pipeline result... | 00:25 |
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josch | minute: and https://source.mnt.re/zeha/reform-tools seems to need the same treatment re gitlab ci runner | 00:28 |
minute | ok, sure | 00:28 |
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minute | josch: done, added both to mntre-builder (amd64) | 00:35 |
josch | thank you! | 00:36 |
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josch | okay, i think https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/merge_requests/95 is about ready | 00:57 |
josch | if somebody who is affected by the insecure permission problem could test out this *.deb that would be great, thank you! | 00:57 |
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josch | oh no... i did something wrong in the reform-tools gitlab and now merged to main instead of staging... sigh... | 01:03 |
josch | okay, then i guess we might as well merge this | 01:03 |
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gourd753 | Out of curiosity, does anyone here know how stable/feature-complete the Debian 12 with backports image for Pocket Reform w/RK3588 (https://reform.debian.net/images/) is? | 01:08 |
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henesy | is the kernel configs used to build the reform kernels on the gitlab somewhere? | 08:27 |
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hramrach | josch: I think o-r for etc/skel is superfluous | 08:59 |
hramrach | note that the default parmissions are readable for all ... except .bash_history, .config, .cache, and .local which are only readable to the user. Sounds like this needs more nuanced approach than making everything the same permissions. There are some permission-fixing tools already which are used to align directory tree parmissions with some configuration | 09:01 |
hramrach | eg. chkstat | 09:04 |
hramrach | henesy: not relly, there are the differences from the DEbian config, and the built packages that have the resulting config | 09:06 |
hramrach | https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/blob/main/linux/config?ref_type=heads | 09:08 |
josch | hramrach: superfluous as in "not necessary" or as in "actually harmful"? | 09:33 |
hramrach | josch: | 09:54 |
hramrach | It maybe annoying for users not to see the configuration unless using sudo | 09:54 |
hramrach | defualt configuration | 09:54 |
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josch | hramrach: valid point. I just tested this and it looks like when running adduser, the permission bits are 1:1 copied into the new user's $HOME. So if they are world readable in /etc/skel, they will be marked as world readable in the newly created $HOME directory as well. | 10:28 |
josch | hramrach: would you consider that a problem? | 10:28 |
hramrach | josch: depends on the file. Most of the files in /etc/skel as well as home directories default to world-readable. Only select files have tighter permissions, and these should generally not be distributed through /etc/skel.' | 10:40 |
hramrach | some distributions provide chkstat or similar tool 'profiles' to switch beteeen more permissive and more paraniod permissions across the system which would likely affect /etc/skel as well | 10:41 |
josch | hramrach: when you say "most of the files in /etc/skel default to world-readable" what do you mean? who sets that default? | 10:41 |
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josch | just last year it seems that debian switched to a tighter default umask (via pam) with 002 for the normal user and 022 for root | 10:42 |
josch | hrm.. i cannot find the chkstat tool in debian | 10:43 |
hramrach | I am not sure Debian even ships anything in /etc/skel | 10:43 |
josch | correct | 10:44 |
josch | packages are not allowed to put files into /etc/skel | 10:44 |
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josch | which is why we use the system image to do that | 10:44 |
josch | which in turn also means that the "default" will become outdated over time | 10:44 |
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hramrach | bash does, and makes them world-readable | 10:44 |
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josch | oh? | 10:45 |
josch | let me read up on that | 10:45 |
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hramrach | umask 002/022 is not particularly tight, that results in 664/644. What did they use prior to that? | 10:47 |
josch | i'm unsure | 10:47 |
hramrach | as in world readable is the defualt anyway, and aligns with permissions generally observed on Linux distributions | 10:48 |
josch | thank you, i think you convinced me | 10:48 |
josch | lets not remove the world-readable bit | 10:48 |
josch | i'll use this now: chmod -R go-w /etc/skel | 10:49 |
josch | bash indeed explicitly makes its /etc/skel files 644, so lets use the same thing | 10:49 |
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hramrach | there is https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/emersion/drm_info for getting screen information in sane format | 10:57 |
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hramrach | and it's in Debian as drm-info | 11:04 |
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grimmware | I've noticed over the last 24 hours or so that the pocket is reporting the wrong (lower) battery percentage in waybar. Whenever I check on the sysctl it's correct, and it always goes back. I wonder if this is just a sampling thing and it's periodically just reporting the wrong thing in /sys | 14:33 |
grimmware | I am not imminently about to debug this because it's not *that* annoying but I figured I'd mention it in case it triggers a lightbulb moment for someone | 14:33 |
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ch | every so often there is a glitch in the spi comms between linux and sysctl fw, then stuff gets reported as 0 | 14:33 |
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ch | iirc hramrach patched the lpc driver to cap the values when that happens | 14:33 |
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ch | what you are seeing might be an effect of the capping | 14:33 |
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hramrach | the capping only avoids fast changes. The full range should be traversed over about 10 readings, which would be within a minute or so depending on the waybar polling frequency | 14:39 |
hramrach | I did not actually observe the glitch reported unless I artifically had it trigger on startup by not checking for the initial 0 value | 14:41 |
ch | i see it every so often | 14:43 |
mrbcmorris | window hidelevel +joins +parts +quits | 14:45 |
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hramrach | so you have the suspected problem that the readings are sometimes 0 which I could not confirm with the patch | 14:49 |
hramrach | interesting | 14:49 |
hramrach | And I am runninng some previous snapshot of your firmware, too | 14:49 |
xha | minute: i have booted openbsd on the pocket reform and now i have the same problem with ethernet lmao. one question: you set the gpio to active low in the device tree: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-rk3588-uboot/-/blob/main/rk3588-mnt-pocket-reform.dts?ref_type=heads#L203 | 15:47 |
xha | however, not for this gpioset? https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/blob/1d16a3cf1e455b07e6a9df5963388bda1c7e4a09/sbin/reform-hw-setup#L55 | 15:47 |
xha | it would need the -l ("--active-low") flag | 15:48 |
xha | is there any documentation on how the reset should actually work? i could not find anything, but i am also not good for looking out for this kind of stuff :D | 15:48 |
minute | xha: the main thing that i discovered later is that you need to set the gmac clock to output, not input (the 125mhz clock) | 16:18 |
minute | xha: in that gpioset i use -t for toggle | 16:23 |
minute | xha: so it goes like 1,0,1 | 16:24 |
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xha | oh, that means that the device tree in the u-boot repository is actually wrong? | 17:24 |
xha | aaah, i see | 17:25 |
xha | the correct one is in reform-debian-packages | 17:25 |
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minute | xha: yeah you're right, i forgot to update the one in uboot repo, which is a bit more pro forma | 17:53 |
minute | i also had to remove stuff from it that's not known in uboot | 17:53 |
xha | ah, ok. do you have a quick fix for the issue that `dtc` is always reporting syntax errors for "#include", i suspect that i have to run some other c preprocessor before it? | 17:54 |
xha | ACTION doesn't want to build a complete linux kernel :D | 17:55 |
minute | xha: you don't need to build the kernel to build the dtb | 17:55 |
minute | xha: just make rockchip/rk3588-mnt-reform2.dtb (forgot the exact name right now) | 17:55 |
xha | ok i'll try that | 17:56 |
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+ vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50) | 19:04 | |
minute | vulkan 1.0 is apparently almost complete for panfrost/panvk https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/31887 | 19:10 |
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minute | the question is, which software would run on vk 1.0... | 19:17 |
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+ mark_ (~mjw@89.205.226.57) | 19:36 | |
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minute | vulkan in action https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/113397822703363929 | 19:39 |
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+ staticbunny (~textual@76-223-253-78.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net) | 19:47 | |
staticbunny | @minute i got my upgrade module today. Can i make a donation on your behalf to EFF or some org to make up for the wifi card? | 19:49 |
+ mark_ (~mjw@84.241.201.78) | 19:53 | |
grimmware | staticbunny: if you got a spare and it's not too expensive, posting it back would probably be the most valuable thing you could do! | 19:56 |
minute | vkQuake works, and is extremely fast | 19:56 |
- mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 276 seconds) (~mjw@89.205.226.57) | 19:56 | |
minute | staticbunny: for sure! | 19:56 |
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sigrid | perfect | 19:56 |
minute | sigrid: thanks for that hint :D it was also very quick to compile | 19:56 |
sigrid | I will see how it performs quake's software rendering soon. the module has arrived and I will pick it up tomorrow | 19:57 |
grimmware | sigrid: you gonna work on a 9front port? | 19:58 |
sigrid | yeah, to the best of my time/abilities, after I finish up some of the current stuff. like lisp jam game | 19:58 |
minute | bluerise's module will also finally ship out tomorrow, it was still here for updating+retesting | 19:59 |
grimmware | sigrid: I'd say I'm happy to "help" but if you've not already seen my 9 c please don't look | 20:00 |
sigrid | :D no worries | 20:00 |
sigrid | openbsd already boots on rk3588 though, right? | 20:00 |
grimmware | yeap | 20:00 |
sigrid | that's great. maybe I can tripple-boot then, eventually | 20:01 |
grimmware | yeah I love the idea of carrying around a bunch of sd cards <3 | 20:01 |
grimmware | I've just got one of the nodes of the pentagrid booted up again since my move, really looking forward to doing more 9 | 20:02 |
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+ mark_ (~mjw@84.241.201.78) | 20:10 | |
minute | i wish `apt install blender` wasn't broken at the moment in debian unstable | 20:15 |
minute | > Depends: libimath-3-1-29t64 (>= 3.1.12) but 3.1.11-2+b1 is to be installed | 20:15 |
minute | > libopenimageio2.5 : Depends: libimath-3-1-29t64 (>= 3.1.12) but 3.1.11-2+b1 is to be installed | 20:15 |
minute | ohh nevermind, i can just install that manually and then it works | 20:16 |
minute | ah, unfortunately debian blender doesn't have --gpu-backend vulkan | 20:17 |
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+ staticbunny (~textual@76-223-253-78.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net) | 20:41 | |
jfred | Oh hell yeah, rcore shipping notification! :D | 20:42 |
jfred | I foresee some module shuffling in my future | 20:43 |
minute | nice | 20:44 |
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hramrach | did you look into a POM ball? | 20:55 |
minute | hramrach: what do you mean? the ball is POM | 20:59 |
hramrach | "I foresee .. in my future" would often be copnnected with a crysta ball | 21:01 |
minute | ah sorry :D | 21:02 |
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grimmware | I have a silicon nitride on the way because of mhoye hahah | 21:07 |
grimmware | jfred: it is amazing, you will love it | 21:07 |
ryukazou | Some interesting discovery, I have tested dell da310 usb-c dock and vaio VJ8PRA3 usb-c dock. | 21:24 |
ryukazou | Both hdmi from two dock won’t have signal when connected to monitor and enternet port only work when connected to second usb-c port(one without pd charging) | 21:24 |
ryukazou | I test this on imx8mp | 21:25 |
hramrach | ugh, the Ethernet not working is odd | 21:30 |
minute | that was recently fixedd | 21:30 |
hramrach | firmware updates \o/ | 21:31 |
ryukazou | Nice to hear this | 21:31 |
minute | this was the key to fixing that https://source.mnt.re/reform/pocket-reform/-/commit/9e043251d6f690d66a4a20ac5143930d08d197fd | 21:31 |
minute | at least the usb stuff incl ethernet works on my dell u2724de | 21:32 |
minute | ryukazou: hdmi won't work via the dock, because there is no display output signals on the usb-c on pocket reform. only on the micro hdmi port. | 21:33 |
hramrach | that reminds me I had a microhdmi cable somewhere | 21:34 |
+ colinsane (~colinunin@97-113-153-47.tukw.qwest.net) | 21:34 | |
ch | https://source.mnt.re/zeha/pocket-reform/-/commit/af22da5a0c988ddc98d375b5d68b98933e274190 is the commit making usb work in such cases (used to be two commits) | 21:35 |
ryukazou | I always forget to buy microhdmi cable and somehow I have a lots of minihdmi cable | 21:35 |
ryukazou | micro hdmi seem less fragile compared to micro usb, I have bad memory with micro usb. | 21:43 |
ryukazou | Micro usb on those early raspberry pi are nightmare after long time. | 21:44 |
hramrach | miniusb is no better | 21:47 |
ryukazou | I have some usb night light use mini usb years ago, usually the connector or port got busted before led light dead. | 21:51 |
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grimmware | The Adafruit HUSB328 is a great solution for this stuff - USB-C PD breakout | 22:26 |
josch | hramrach: i just merged !112 as you marked it as ready -- thank you! | 22:26 |
grimmware | I've used one on my Tandy 1400LT to get it working without having to find a new power brick | 22:26 |
hramrach | I just found it did not get tested because the SD card failed to boot :/ | 22:36 |
staticbunny | damn $100 to ship to germany. wtf UPS? | 22:38 |
staticbunny | might as well send minute a whole care package from California for that cost | 22:39 |
grimmware | jeez | 22:39 |
grimmware | this planet I swear to god | 22:39 |
staticbunny | lol i should just wrap the package back up without my module and say return to sender :-D | 22:40 |
hramrach | josch: and it indeed does not work :/ | 22:41 |
josch | whoops XD | 22:42 |
grimmware | I am sad the world makes it so hard to do the right thing | 22:43 |
minute | staticbunny: no worries, no sending back stuff from usa needed | 22:43 |
grimmware | yeah fuck when I suggested it I didn't think it would be quite that dumb | 22:46 |
staticbunny | grimmware: yeah, i try not to think about it too much or i get depressed. Corporations would do us like the matrix if they could. | 22:47 |
grimmware | staticbunny: well I for one love that you wanted to do the right thing so kudos for that | 22:47 |
staticbunny | i think what minute is doing is really great and want to support it as much as i can. Besides the recycling issue, corporations want us buying new hardware instead of repairing or upgrading. Planned obsolescence sucks! | 22:50 |
hramrach | also the new u-boot that sets the font is not used for some reason | 22:51 |
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hramrach | next try tomorrow I guess | 22:51 |
grimmware | staticbunny: yeah, 101% this. Being able to upgrade the SoM is just the most amazing feeling. Especially where it's a heckin chonker compared to the imx8mp hahah | 22:53 |
staticbunny | exactly! maybe someday minute will create a competitor to turingpi and we can drop our older SoM's into a cluster. ;-) | 22:56 |
grimmware | I just keep thinking about how impressed 18 year old me would be | 22:57 |
jfred | a cluster board for heterogeneous reform modules would be very nice | 23:01 |
jfred | I've got a few going unused now and it would be nice to put them to some use | 23:01 |
staticbunny | ha its probably a good thing i didnt have something like a pocket reform at 18. i would have been hacking all the wifi even more | 23:02 |
staticbunny | jfred: for sure! even if it was just an adapter board that worked with the turingpi for now. | 23:04 |
hramrach | the heterogenous system and DT .. ugh | 23:08 |
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staticbunny | wooooo RK3588 first boot!! | 23:26 |
josch | \o/ | 23:28 |
staticbunny | just gotta install go and chezmoi and im good to go | 23:32 |
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