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| grimmware | Import charges paid for rcore | 10:41 |
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| grimmware | be still my beating heart | 10:41 |
| grimmware | kudos to UPS for actually letting me pay that *before* they try to deliver it | 10:42 |
| gsora | i've always paid import charges before stuff gets delivered with express couriers | 10:44 |
| gsora | local post... never happened lol | 10:44 |
| hramrach | it's more expensive to ship with the express services, and the money does buy something sometimes | 11:01 |
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| minute | grimmware: excitation levels rising | 11:15 |
| [tj] | does everyone that wants/needs have a path to 38c3 vouchers? | 11:15 |
| grimmware | minute: yeah just hoping that I get a chance to install the thing before I have to go away for the weekend | 11:18 |
| grimmware | I also need to make time to build a hilariously low-rent Kamaji the Boiler Man costume. | 11:19 |
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| josch | ch: since you are one of the lucky rk3588 owners now, maybe you are interested in #1078871 | 11:58 |
| josch | ch: if not, no worries, it's on my todo list for when i have one in my hands :) | 11:59 |
| josch | (an rk3588, not the todo list) | 12:00 |
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| ch | josch: right now i wouldn't even know how to boot an installer / how much i would care about d-i. | 13:18 |
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| minute | i just tested/debugged and readied for shipping an exotic imx8mplus reform2 motherboard combo | 14:15 |
| minute | on that imx8mp adapter of course exactly 1 pin was broken, spi sclk | 14:15 |
| minute | luckily i already hooked up the oscilloscope after a few minutes... | 14:16 |
| ch | sounds like a one off combo? | 14:36 |
| ryukazou | The reform camera I ordered from CS would arrive next week. Pretty quick. | 14:59 |
| sevan | minute: will the RK3588 for the reform2 ship to buyers before the end of the year? | 15:06 |
| minute | sevan: yes | 15:06 |
| minute | sevan: ohhh there is an open support ticket on your order... let me amend that | 15:07 |
| ryukazou | kaboom atari 2600 world record | 15:15 |
| ryukazou | Sorry, wrong app | 15:15 |
| minute | :D | 15:15 |
| ryukazou | Trying to make pocket reform track ball act like a paddle controller so I can play some pong game. | 15:20 |
| minute | nice | 15:24 |
| minute | as a kid i liked to play "krakout" on the c64 | 15:25 |
| ryukazou | I only play space invaders ,kaboom and some other games on Atari 2600 when I in pre-school. After that I didn’t touch video game until I’m in high school. | 15:34 |
| minute | nice | 15:37 |
| minute | of the technical folks here, any good ideas about what to do with a ton of externally accessible GPIOs (via USB) on the mnt reform motherboard 3.0? https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/113356983587446115 | 15:38 |
| [tj] | expansion header with a relatively easy to swap buffer chip in the middle | 15:40 |
| hramrach | lid switch :) | 16:09 |
| hramrach | but also are the GPIOs accessible to the Reform or to the debug host? | 16:23 |
| hramrach | perhaps could be used for resetting sysctl or something if the latter | 16:26 |
| mhoye | minute: Make them accessible without having to disassemble the case. | 16:26 |
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| mhoye | make mad science accessible I say | 17:04 |
| minute | hramrach: mhm, sysctl reset could make sense | 17:28 |
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| sevan | minute: thanks :) | 18:13 |
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| sevan | a couple of days ago someone posted about the Atari 2600 remake. Original console had cartridges which could store up to 4KB. Remake console had a firmware update weighing in at 50MB :D | 18:23 |
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| Twodisbetter | minute: would the script that grimmware made for the pocket to give us some power savings in a sudo suspend state work on the big Reform? | 19:25 |
| Twodisbetter | My Reform is no longer suspending, but I really like how the script that grimmware made actually kind of locks the device as well and saves some power. | 19:25 |
| jfred | minute: It's possible I'll want to configure my reform2 with the imx8mplus at some point if I put the rcore in the reform next. I have the a311d in there now, but the imx8mp's 8GB of RAM is quite nice despite the slower speeds | 20:09 |
| jfred | modularity is nice :) | 20:09 |
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| grimmware | Twodisbetter: I didn’t implement the power save stuff, just lid closed detection! | 20:39 |
| grimmware | That was someone else! | 20:39 |
| grimmware | minute: i2c on the motherboard would be amazing. Getting readings via uart from the sysctl is fine for certain use cases is fine but it would be good to be able to access directly from the machine itself. Also you get daisy-chaining for just 2 pins (and power and ground rails) | 20:42 |
| jfred | Oh, hmm, if a qualcomm (was it qcs6490?) module is ever a thing, that could be a good and fast pocket reform candidate with both wifi and cellular | 20:47 |
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| Twodisbetter | jfred: Yeah that would be awesome! | 20:57 |
| minute | grimmware: you probably mean i2c from the SOC? | 20:58 |
| minute | jfred: well, i can tell you that imx8mplus works quite well in reform2 at least | 20:59 |
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| Twodisbetter | grimmware: sorry, I was looking at the wrong thread | 21:27 |
| Twodisbetter | amospalla: was the awesome individual that made that happen. | 21:27 |
| Twodisbetter | minute: same question though, would that script from the pocket work on the Reform? | 21:28 |
| Twodisbetter | minute: suspend is not working on the Reform for a while for me, so I'm thinking that downclocking would be good. | 21:28 |
| amospalla | Twodisbetter: oh thank you. | 21:29 |
| amospalla | The script could be adapted, but I don't own a classic Reform, only a Pocket. | 21:29 |
| Twodisbetter | one fo the silver linings to the downclock method that you made on the pocket is that it keeps the Pocket warm. So if you have to leave it in a car or another place where it is a little colder it protects it from getting too cold. | 21:30 |
| amospalla | Yeah, that is a feature :) | 21:32 |
| minute | Twodisbetter: i don't know, i didn't deeply look into it yet | 21:32 |
| amospalla | I could try but would need help and some trial and error from somebody else Reform. | 21:35 |
| amospalla | The big reform did suspend at some point but it stopped suspending, isn't it? | 21:35 |
| josch | amospalla: depends on the SoM. With kernel 5.12, the imx8mq did suspend successfully for some | 21:36 |
| josch | but even when suspended, it would only cut power draw by about half | 21:37 |
| amospalla | If making it suspend is not something to be expected anytime soon, I can try to adapt my script it to the big Reform. | 21:38 |
| josch | to my knowledge nobody is working on suspend/resume support in context of the mnt reform for any of the boards it supports | 21:41 |
| amospalla | It does not suspend at all, only disables things like network and display, and freezes all user-space applications. | 21:43 |
| josch | i used to have that just for firefox -- after a 10 seconds without focus it would send SIGWAIT and when it got focus again, it would get a SIGCONT | 21:47 |
| josch | though the problem with that was, that you cannot copypaste from firefox while it is suspended | 21:47 |
| amospalla | oh, didn't think about that | 21:47 |
| josch | it's not a problem for your script because the user will not use their reform while "suspended" | 21:48 |
| amospalla | no, but with a script listening for i3/sway events and timers that could be automated. | 21:48 |
| amospalla | focus events. | 21:49 |
| Twodisbetter | I think the script would be excellent on the Reform. Also it reliables unfreezes very well on the pocket. So very reliable. | 21:50 |
| amospalla | I guess that makes sense with the cpu on the stock pocket, for example. | 21:50 |
| Twodisbetter | Saves some juice which is better than just being on all the time, | 21:50 |
| amospalla | The script for the pocket already has some room for other models to be added, I would need some paths and constants specific for the big Reform. | 21:54 |
| amospalla | could please somebody on a classic reform, paste the output of this on their computer? | 22:02 |
| amospalla | cat /proc/device-tree/model | 22:03 |
| amospalla | grep -H . /sys/class/hidraw/*/device/uevent | 22:03 |
| josch | amospalla: you can find all possible values of /proc/device-tree/model as the filenames of /usr/share/reform-tools/machines/*.conf | 22:03 |
| amospalla | josch: thank you! | 22:04 |
| Twodisbetter | MNT Reform 2 | 22:04 |
| josch | amospalla: https://mister-muffin.de/p/ey3U.txt | 22:04 |
| Twodisbetter | yes bingo same thing I saw, thanks josch | 22:04 |
| amospalla | both you have the same computer? "MNT Reform 2"? | 22:04 |
| josch | amospalla: note though, that the usb hids are likely to change soon now that the mnt devices have some real registrations done | 22:04 |
| josch | amospalla: a311d here | 22:05 |
| amospalla | When that happens I'll adapt the script. | 22:05 |
| Twodisbetter | amospalla: I have the OG IMX8 on my Reform, but the output from the second command was the same | 22:05 |
| Twodisbetter | same with the first | 22:05 |
| amospalla | Ok, so reading device-tree/model I guet the computer model, not the specific SoM it rides. | 22:06 |
| amospalla | Thank you both. | 22:06 |
| josch | amospalla: you do get the som | 22:06 |
| josch | amospalla: "MNT Reform 2" was the first so it didn't have "imx8mq" in the name | 22:07 |
| amospalla | I remember I saw something on your scripts time ago, I'll read them. | 22:07 |
| josch | but if you read "MNT Reform 2" it's implied that it's imx8mq | 22:07 |
| amospalla | Ohh, ok. | 22:07 |
| josch | these are the model names from the device tree files and they are specific for both the som and the motherboard | 22:08 |
| grimmware | minute: yeah that’s what I meant, now I reread the question though I feel that I’m maybe misunderstanding where the spare GPIO are situated | 22:14 |
| amospalla | josch: do you know why there are two hidraw devices for the keyboard on your computer? The context of my interest on hidraw devices is that I look for the known hidraw device on the computer to send commands to set keyboard leds. | 22:15 |
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| Twodisbetter | amospalla: If I had to guess I would say it is the keyboard and the trackball | 22:21 |
| minute | grimmware: yeah but the request for a qwiic connector that goes to the SoC is actually quite doable. the original question was more about, there are these GPIOs on the usb-uart, so we could think if we need to access any interesting signals from the outside | 22:27 |
| amospalla | Twodisbetter: it has its own device, there are two devices with HID_NAME="MNT Reform Keyboard", and a third one with "MNT Reform Trackball". | 22:28 |
| minute | (lpc reset was a good idea by hramrach so i added that already) | 22:28 |
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