2024-10-20.log

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ehmryhas anyone published mods for putting a real power connector on the pocket?09:54
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hramrachehmry: what is a real power connector?10:32
hramrachuh oh dpkg-deb: error: <decompress> subprocess was killed by signal (Segmentation fault), core dumped10:33
hramrachso much for building on x8610:34
ehmryhramrach: something that can deliver power to the pocket10:57
hramrachwould be fairly challenging, the panel mount connectors tend to be quite large11:08
ehmrysure, but it needs power11:20
ehmrya cable hanging out the side with a barrel port would still be an improvement11:22
minuteehmry: is your pocket broken?11:38
minuteehmry: i mean, does the usb-c charging not work?11:39
ehmry@minute it charges the batteries but it doesn't give enough power to keep it running indefinitely11:45
hramrachthere are multiple variants of this https://eu.mouser.com/datasheet/2/1628/pj_039ah-3510877.pdf which are pretty consistent in being 9mm wide. Given there is a PCB behind both side panels it's unlikely to fit11:46
hramrachehmry: how long does it take to discharge when on power?11:46
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minuteehmry: then something is wrong. what charger are you using? and have you ever updated the system controller firmware?11:47
hramrachfor me it lasts about a week or so and then the PD state machine gets into some unstable state and stops charging even if the power supply can negotiate delivering 100W or so11:48
hramrachdid not test the new firmware long enough to tell if that helps or not11:48
minuteehmry: i mean, what usb-c power brick are you using?11:49
ehmrysystem firmware is 2024073011:51
hramrachI can tell because both the power supply and the cables have blinkenlilghts11:51
ehmrypowersupply is USB-PD11:51
hramrachwhich usb-pd?11:52
ehmryhow many different kinds are there?11:52
hramrachbazillion, unfortunately11:52
hramrachThere is no one standard, and not all power supplies adhere to the standatd they claim to. Each make/model is a kind of its own11:54
hramrachThat kind of makes the desire for plain power jack understandable ;-)11:58
ehmryif there is a bazillion kinds of usb-pd, they aren't what they say they are, and I haven't found one that works, then I don't have any meaningful information about what kind of power supply I have11:58
minuteehmry: which model is the power supply? the best is to use a 60W one that can do 20V11:58
minuteehmry: electronic devices normally have some sort of label that has the brand and model number11:59
hramrachunless it heats so much the label comes off, had a power brick like that :)12:00
minutehramrach: if you had a plain power jack you would need to pay even more attention to the voltage and max amps12:00
minutealso, this is not really helping me in trying to give any meaningful support here12:00
hramrachsure, but the parameters are understandable. The PD either negotiates automagically or you are in for exploring a really huge space of parameters that can be mismatched12:01
ehmrycan someone not just tell me which brand and model works?12:01
hramrachI am using a local brand PSU that you likely cannot get12:02
hramrachalso getting to know which PSU did NOT work is useful12:02
minuteehmry: for example, ugreen 60W chargers (amazon). anker 60W chargers. steamdeck charger12:02
minuteehmry: also, when charging check the battery status screen on oled12:03
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minuteehmry: there's a number with "A" next to it. this is amps going in and out of the batteries. when charger is connected, this should be a negative number, like -1.0 A12:43
minuteehmry: if you connect the charger while the computer is on and it doesn't charge properly, it's a known bug of the stock sysctl firmware and you can update it to fix that.12:43
grimmwareehmry: I have a Ugreen Nexode 65W Foldable Fast GaN Charger. That worked before the system controller firmware upgrade and has a couple of extra ports too. Don’t know if that exact model will be available wherever you are but there should be an equivalent.13:10
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