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| ch | minute: i was wondering if i could buy a pocket reform mobo, so i dont have to worry about breaking my assembled pocket reform when doing further sysctl experiments | 00:20 |
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| minute | ch: probably doable | 01:11 |
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| Twodisbetter | minute: is there a Bluetooth option available for pockets upgrading to the RK? | 12:58 |
| minute | Twodisbetter: not yet | 13:00 |
| Twodisbetter | minute: and is using my existing imx8plus nvme with the RK a simple swap and use kind of thing? Is the RK's emmc already flashed with uboot, etc? | 13:01 |
| Twodisbetter | minute: or do I use an sdcard with it? | 13:01 |
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| + paperManu (~paperManu@198.16.214.40) | 13:37 | |
| minute | Twodisbetter: recently i decided that we'll preflash the emmc | 13:38 |
| minute | Twodisbetter: so you'll be good to go | 13:38 |
| Twodisbetter | minute: order placed. Thanks! | 13:53 |
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| minute | Twodisbetter: thank you! | 14:07 |
| Twodisbetter | minute: the preflashing means that the RK is expecting to boot from NVMe out of the box right? So it is a simple swapping in of the SoC and adding the m2 wifi card, and then just powering on and going forward from there. | 14:55 |
| Twodisbetter | If so that is pretty convienent! | 14:56 |
| minute | Twodisbetter: it's not _that_ simple because you would have to "reconnect" your nvme as the root device basically, for example using reform-boot-config. i recently wrote about it in community but i think we can still make this process easier | 14:57 |
| Twodisbetter | minute: ok, if running the boot-config command is all you need to do, it is still pretty easy | 14:57 |
| josch | Twodisbetter: it is currently a bit more complicated than that. But given the correct tooling, the migration can be improved. | 15:00 |
| Twodisbetter | ok, well I'll make sure to share my feedback on the process once I go through it | 15:01 |
| josch | Twodisbetter: to my knowledge there is little support in distros for "take the rootfs and put it in a computer with a different /boot and expect things to continue to work" | 15:01 |
| josch | The main issue is, that the knowledge of how to mount your rootfs and how you decided to set things up is encoded in the initramfs | 15:02 |
| josch | Another issue is, that your rootfs might've run under different kernel version than the one in your swapped out /boot | 15:02 |
| josch | So some process is needed to re-create /boot in such a way as your OS on nvme expects it | 15:02 |
| Twodisbetter | josch: I understand. I supopose if I had to start from scratch I wouldnt be that upset. | 15:03 |
| Twodisbetter | To be fair though, I have done this on Windows many times. Not saying that is a good thing though, just was convienent at the time. | 15:03 |
| josch | Twodisbetter: how did you do it on windows? | 15:03 |
| josch | Twodisbetter: on windows you just took out the nvme which included your kernel and put it into a different computer. But on the reform, your kernel is on eMMC and the rest is on your rootfs | 15:04 |
| Twodisbetter | josch: simply move the nvme drive, reset bios settings, and boot | 15:04 |
| josch | right, that's a different thing | 15:04 |
| josch | with imx8mplus or a311d or imx8mq, you have /boot on your sd-card or on eMMC | 15:04 |
| Twodisbetter | josch: true but windows builds a boot key based on hardware, so it is possible you could hose things if the system changes to omuch, or however MS defines that | 15:05 |
| josch | so when you take out your nvme, you only take out part of your installation and not all of it as you do when you take out your nvme with windows | 15:05 |
| Twodisbetter | yep | 15:05 |
| Twodisbetter | still fingers crossed it works without much of a hitch | 15:05 |
| josch | this will get better once u-boot or edk2 can boot directly from nvme | 15:05 |
| Twodisbetter | actually I am hoping the RKs get in stock soon! hahahaha | 15:06 |
| josch | because then you can do the same thing as on your windows box | 15:06 |
| josch | because then /boot can live on your nvme as well | 15:06 |
| josch | but that's not yet the case on imx8mplus, a311d or imx8mq | 15:06 |
| Twodisbetter | josch: sounds like a glorious day is not too far off | 15:06 |
| josch | yes, i heard minute made it work for a311d with u-boot already | 15:06 |
| minute | i have this vague idea where reform-setup-wizard, run from emmc/sd, would detect that there's an nvme with a reform/debian system image present and it could ask if you want to boot from that in the future, and it would make that happen | 15:08 |
| josch | could be done but can become quite complex quickly with all the different options of how people have configured their nvme (think luks, lvm2, swap etc) | 15:09 |
| minute | yep | 15:19 |
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| minute | well that looks _almost_ good, i guess those v4 fws should go in a directory https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform/-/jobs/6293/artifacts/browse | 20:23 |
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| Twodisbetter | minute: the power draw on the Pocket for my particular use case is about 600-1200 mah with the IMX8mplus | 20:57 |
| Twodisbetter | minute: do you already know what the standard draw with the RK3288 is? | 20:57 |
| Twodisbetter | Just so we can get an idea of what runtime under battery power is going to look like? | 20:58 |
| + vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50) | 21:04 | |
| josch | Twodisbetter: rk3588 :) | 21:05 |
| josch | maybe just call it "the rockchip" :) | 21:05 |
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| Twodisbetter | 💪👍 | 21:20 |
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| minute | better https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform/-/jobs/6301/artifacts/browse | 21:38 |
| minute | did a bunch of reform firmware gardening today and updated most usb vid/pids https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/113307486106826236 | 21:54 |
| minute | for pocket sysctl i need to check if the vid/pid can be changed without making any problems with picotool or sth | 21:54 |
| josch | "soft-start workaround merged" -- that one has been in the making for *ages*! :D | 21:56 |
| minute | josch: oh yeah it was incredibly overdue | 22:04 |
| josch | i like the term "gardening" :) | 22:06 |
| minute | a bit nicer than "maintenance" maybe :D | 22:07 |
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| minute | cool, got LVFS account | 23:02 |
| josch | uh sweet | 23:04 |
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| grimmware | Got the thermistor back on no trouble. Really glad for my microscope! Just gonna finish the mod that I actually went in to do before I test it and then I’ll add the glue to stop it from lifting any more. | 23:54 |
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