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| josch | so, linux 6.11 got finally uploaded to unstable yesterday | 09:36 |
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| josch | the imx8mq cadence hdmi patch stack causes a build failure, so instead of fixing it, i guess i'll just bump the patch version to v17 :) | 09:37 |
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| minute | josch: oh good, that'll make things easier for me with the rk3588 patches | 09:59 |
| josch | nice! :) it's currently building on the ci | 10:02 |
| josch | minute: another issue that popped up is one regarding the license of reform-handbook. As you maybe already read in your emails, Debian ftp-master noted that the GPL and the CERN OHL are incompatible with each other, so you cannot combine works covered by them to form a new derivative work. In this case, my assumption was, that since the hardware itself is CERN OHL licensed, naturally, so are its | 10:04 |
| josch | renderings. You license the handbook text as GPL and then you build a PDF from it which is inredistributable because it would be covered by both licenses. | 10:04 |
| josch | minute: since you are the copyright holder of everything, this could easily get resolved by relicensing one or the other | 10:05 |
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| + colinsane (~colinunin@97-113-72-235.tukw.qwest.net) | 10:10 | |
| minute | josch: ah, meh. well normally all artwork is cc-by-sa, is that gpl compatible? | 10:54 |
| minute | mhm https://creativecommons.org/2015/10/08/cc-by-sa-4-0-now-one-way-compatible-with-gplv3/#:~:text=Following%20additional%20months%20of%20detailed,to%20our%20compatible%20licenses%20page! | 10:55 |
| josch | minute: there is already content in the Debian archive that is both GPL-3 and CC-BY-SA-4.0 so that should work | 10:59 |
| josch | minute: since this is up to you, you could also say that the complete handbook (except for the logo) is CC-BY-SA-4.0 but of course that's up to you | 11:01 |
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| josch | minute: the kernel built fine but build_qcacld failed for 6.11: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/jobs/6117 | 11:23 |
| ch | was meaning to check if https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1082717 is 6.11 or gcc-14 specific | 11:33 |
| minute | hmm, struct kernel_ethtool_ts_info * vs struct ethtool_ts_info * | 12:25 |
| minute | hmm this is behind #define WLAN_FEATURE_TSF_PTP | 12:27 |
| minute | so one could disable WLAN_FEATURE_TSF_PTP | 12:28 |
| minute | or change the signature here https://source.mnt.re/reform/qcacld2/-/blob/binary-deb/CORE/HDD/inc/wlan_hdd_tsf.h#L292 | 12:29 |
| minute | and here https://source.mnt.re/reform/qcacld2/-/blob/binary-deb/CORE/HDD/src/wlan_hdd_tsf.c#L1498 | 12:29 |
| minute | a simple change of the struct name should suffice | 12:31 |
| + paperManu (~paperManu@198.16.214.40) | 12:33 | |
| minute | lets see https://source.mnt.re/reform/qcacld2/-/commit/cb423f493a1de622e8ce9b3499c34d2d7ef9e02a | 12:35 |
| josch | minute: that will not compile because it's missing my patch rebase for 6.11 | 12:36 |
| josch | minute: i'll cherry-pick your commit for the linux6.11 branch | 12:36 |
| minute | oh :D it looks like it is building for 6.7 | 12:36 |
| josch | o0 | 12:36 |
| minute | ah yeah also against source instead of headers (or what was the correct package?) | 12:37 |
| josch | ah wait, wrong repo XD | 12:37 |
| josch | let me re-run the reform-debian-packages pipeline | 12:37 |
| minute | josch: nooooo | 12:37 |
| minute | josch: i need to rerun a specific branch :D | 12:38 |
| josch | i didn't lick anything yet :) | 12:38 |
| josch | errr | 12:38 |
| josch | click | 12:38 |
| josch | i meant click | 12:38 |
| minute | :D | 12:38 |
| minute | ah but also! | 12:38 |
| josch | yes :) | 12:38 |
| minute | i need to rebase on 6.11 / check what you rebased etc | 12:38 |
| minute | probably i should branch off a new one from your 6.11 rebase and cherry pick my rk3588 things? | 12:39 |
| josch | maybe -- you know best how you organized the commits in your rk3588 branch | 12:40 |
| minute | i'll check what you did so far for 6.11 | 12:40 |
| josch | do you need ci right now? | 12:40 |
| minute | no, i can do a local build once i've checked and picked everything i guess | 12:47 |
| minute | still so many rk3588 patches (esp the clock stuff) not in 6.11 eh? | 12:47 |
| josch | yes, on the other hand, yet a few more were applied, like 0033-phy-phy-rockchip-samsung-hdptx-Explicitly-include-pm.patch | 12:48 |
| minute | ah | 12:48 |
| minute | i'm learning from the patches that rk3588 has 4 independent copies of hantro g1 _encoder_ but the kernel doesn't support multi core encoding yet :D | 12:49 |
| minute | could be one hell of a video streaming box... | 12:50 |
| josch | moar cameras! | 12:50 |
| + mjw (~mjw@2001:1c06:2488:1400:4fd:39a7:74ac:7bae) | 12:51 | |
| josch | i hope that the patch stack i used for 6.11 is the correct one | 12:51 |
| josch | because the collabora repo does not have a rk3588-v6.11 branch as it did for earlier releases | 12:51 |
| josch | the stack from the rk3588 branch applied fine though... | 12:51 |
| josch | and development seems to happen in rk3588-test | 12:52 |
| minute | hmm, you said 0033-phy-... patch is already in 6.11, yes? but i still seem to have it here in the linux6.11 branch and the build complains about it | 13:03 |
| minute | maybe i didn't pull the latest copy of linux6.11 | 13:04 |
| josch | yes, i have been force-pushing to it several times today | 13:04 |
| minute | ok, updated everything and made a new branch, lets see | 13:22 |
| minute | aww, can't cross-build locally (gcc dependency shenanigans) | 13:25 |
| Twodisbetter | minute: are you still concentrating on getting suspend functional with the imx8m plus? Personally I hope the efforts are on the RK3588. No rushing or impatience on my side, just asking the question. | 13:26 |
| minute | Twodisbetter: i'm not! | 13:26 |
| minute | i'm working on rk3588 things | 13:26 |
| + murphnj (~murph@user/murphnj) | 13:27 | |
| josch | minute: now that linux 6.11 is in unstable, the cross-build problems should be solved soon -- only another cross-toolchain-base upload is left | 13:29 |
| minute | ok nice | 13:29 |
| minute | now waiting for my pipeline :3 https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/pipelines | 13:30 |
| josch | minute: my job is done in 5 minutes | 13:30 |
| minute | josch: hope it'll just work :3 | 13:31 |
| minute | weird scheduling, now your qca job is pending and my setup job started | 13:33 |
| josch | yes, jobs are interleaved with multiple pipelines in parallel | 13:34 |
| minute | oh, qcacld failed | 13:39 |
| minute | struct ctl_table vs const struct ctl_table | 13:40 |
| minute | josch: i have a local build setup for qcacld with linux6.11 now and am fixing | 13:47 |
| josch | nice :) | 13:49 |
| josch | i'm building a system image with linux 6.11 right now | 13:50 |
| josch | will test on a311d once that's done | 13:50 |
| minute | josch: i've pushed another qcacld2 fix | 13:53 |
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| + mtm (~textual@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) | 14:05 | |
| minute | lol, this old friend https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/jobs/6143#L204 | 14:19 |
| josch | minute: note, how in my linux6.11 branch i deleted 20240808-zrk3588-dsi2-driver-fix1.patch | 14:53 |
| josch | linux 6.11 is also broken with reform-system-image... investigating... | 15:01 |
| minute | looking good https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/pipelines/2791 | 15:08 |
| minute | josch: yeah i missed that @ zrk...-fix1 :D | 15:08 |
| minute | ok, installed this on my rk3588 pocket. internal display works, cryptsetup unlock works, and i'm at tuigreet | 15:27 |
| minute | am at desktop on rk3588 pocket, kernel 6.11.2 | 15:28 |
| grimmware | :D | 15:31 |
| minute | hdmi doesn't work (yet) sniff | 15:33 |
| josch | and i found another reform-tools bug | 15:37 |
| josch | it installs the dtb wrongly | 15:37 |
| + mark_ (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 15:38 | |
| minute | now i just need to figure out why hdmi is not doing anything... | 16:09 |
| minute | ahhh wrong compatible string for hdmi1 still | 16:12 |
| + spew (~spew@201.141.99.170) | 16:34 | |
| grimmware | my pocket is currently writing a 720K floppy boot disk | 16:39 |
| Twodisbetter | how cool is that!? | 16:41 |
| josch | less cool but slightly related i recently found out how to watch a dvd on my reform | 16:49 |
| josch | turns out, my external usb dvd drive needs to be connected to all 3 usb ports | 16:50 |
| josch | and i need to connect them in the right order | 16:50 |
| josch | if i fail to do so, either will the mouse/keyboard just reset | 16:50 |
| josch | or my reform will just shut off | 16:51 |
| minute | grimmware: neat, how? usb floppy drive or sth more fancy? | 17:38 |
| minute | josch: :D | 17:38 |
| minute | josch: one thing that's different on this patchstack/6.11: temperatures are missing for rk3588 | 17:43 |
| grimmware | oh just USB | 17:43 |
| minute | > dsimic>the tsadc/rockchip,rk3588-tsadc driver handles that, which boils down to the rockchip_thermal driver | 17:50 |
| minute | indeed rockchip_thermal is not loaded... but loading it also doesn't make it probe, so maybe dts issue | 17:51 |
| minute | ah, one has to set &tsadc to status = okay nowadays | 17:56 |
| minute | in dts | 17:56 |
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| minute | ok, thermals are back | 18:17 |
| + cow321 (~deflated8@user/meow/deflated8837) | 18:23 | |
| minute | testing the kernel on imx8mp pocket i see that we need different dsi parameters than for rk3588..... | 18:27 |
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| + ehenter (~ehenter@212-149-229-243.bb.dnainternet.fi) | 18:43 | |
| + reform19058 (~mmmm@ip2504e6e1.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) | 19:28 | |
| reform19058 | Linux mmmm 6.11.2-mnt-reform-arm64 #1 SMP Debian 6.11.2-1+reform20241007T083352Z (2024-10-07) aarch64 GNU/Linux | 19:29 |
| reform19058 | 6.11 seems to work on a311d | 19:29 |
| reform19058 | but there are problems with reform-hw-setup as it fails to rmmod of_mdio which is in use by mdio_devres | 19:29 |
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| josch | minute: should reform-hw-setup just rmmod more modules for the ethernet workaround? | 19:32 |
| minute | josch: interesting. one could try that | 19:38 |
| minute | display works fine again on imx8mp pocket in this branch https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/commit/8785622c86274d25c57b94a134aa1c8162590fc4 | 19:46 |
| minute | i wonder why EDID does not work on imx8mp hdmi | 19:51 |
| ryukazou | What colour of threadlocker recommend to use on pocket reform | 19:53 |
| ryukazou | Does LOCTITE 243 suitable? | 19:54 |
| minute | ryukazou: we don't use liquid threadlocker, but nylon dispensing on the screws | 19:54 |
| minute | ryukazou: screw companies in china can supply those (our supplier is SNIPPIN) | 19:54 |
| minute | (the screws in pocket reform have this nylon dispensing on them) | 19:55 |
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| + Gooberpatrol_66 (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 20:01 | |
| + gustav28 (~gustav@c-5d34524e.019-141-67626730.bbcust.telenor.se) | 20:03 | |
| ryukazou | I see, thanks. I plan to replace m2 Phillip screw to m2 titanium hex screw. Hope it won’t be too loose after re-anodizing. | 20:03 |
| minute | ryukazou: ah. hopefully the head will fit... | 20:06 |
| minute | ok, EDID on imx8mp pocket actually works, but i had to replug the cable once (it was connected at boot before) | 20:07 |
| minute | josch: tested with my linux6.11-rk3588-pocket branch on imx8mp reform: dsi display, hdmi, sd, emmc, nvme, audio, wifi, bt, usb | 20:09 |
| josch | wow, amazing! \o/ | 20:10 |
| josch | i didn't test nvme, emmc, bt nor ethernet | 20:10 |
| minute | ok, i'm gonna flash an a311d test card and upgrade to this kernel package on it | 20:11 |
| minute | (on pocket) | 20:11 |
| minute | pocket display works on a311d with 6.11 | 20:22 |
| Twodisbetter | minute: good to hear. My number one on the list is a functional low power state. | 20:22 |
| minute | works on a311d pocket w/linux6.11-rk3588-pocket: cpufreq, thermal, display, sd, emmc, nvme, usb | 20:25 |
| minute | josch: indeed ethernet will need fixup | 20:26 |
| minute | josch: i needed to remove the following additional modules first, in this order: pcs_xpcs mdio_devres | 20:28 |
| minute | after that, reform-hw-setup ran and ethernet works | 20:28 |
| minute | sound also works | 20:28 |
| minute | hdmi EDID doesn't work but that's an old problem that we should fix soonish | 20:29 |
| minute | josch: i think it is safe to merge my branch and i'll do so if you don't protest | 20:33 |
| minute | (hdmi works with manually set up resolution) | 20:33 |
| + Gooberpatrol66 (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 20:36 | |
| - Gooberpatrol_66 (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 20:36 | |
| minute | josch: i hope i put this in the right branch (staging)? https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/merge_requests/89/diffs?commit_id=cab620ae7c88a1450b48c52b5169b8ed3e527815 | 20:37 |
| minute | ok, merged 6.11+rk3588 to reform-debian-packages | 20:43 |
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| + jacobk (~quassel@47-186-105-237.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net) | 20:46 | |
| gustav28 | this sounds exciting, what are you up to? getting more rk3588 features working? are these patches necessary because they are more recent than linux 6.11? (noob question) | 21:01 |
| minute | gustav28: yes, we had a larger amount of patches for 6.10, some are now in 6.11 so we needed to clean up the patches, and also i did some work to support secondary HDMI for rk3588 and support for the display in pocket reform | 21:10 |
| minute | we are starting to ship the first rk3588 modules this week (but i still need to write an installation manual tomorrow) | 21:10 |
| ch | \o/ | 21:12 |
| josch | minute: thank you, that's exactly the commit i had locally as well :) | 21:15 |
| josch | uh i see you even merged linux6.11-rk3588-pocket to main -- exciting!! | 21:18 |
| gustav28 | ah, I see! very cool to be able to see it happen live. | 21:18 |
| josch | minute: what's the state of rk3588 u-boot -- is what is in the reform-rk3588-uboot repo also what you are using? | 21:20 |
| gustav28 | would love to learn more about development like this (I'm yet to buy my first reform, but soon ditching my mac, finally), I guess its ok to follow your GitLab accounts to see what's going on? | 21:21 |
| josch | minute: i'm asking because if u-boot needs some adjustments, it would be nice to make a new release to make sure that the next reform-tools version comes with the correct hashes and that the new modules come with u-boot with all interesting features from the start | 21:21 |
| josch | (unlike on the pocket where u-boot is missing $fdtfile in its environment...) | 21:22 |
| josch | gustav28: hanging out here probably gives you the most input other than stalking the MNT headquaters :) | 21:23 |
| gustav28 | sounds good | 21:23 |
| gustav28 | :) | 21:24 |
| minute | josch: ah yes but i should change the board name in uboot! it's currentl radxa rock 5b or sth | 21:24 |
| minute | noting this in my todo for tomorrow morning | 21:24 |
| josch | cool! then lets do the next reform-tools release after that | 21:25 |
| josch | then we can build some system images and see if they work on the boards or not :) | 21:25 |
| minute | yes :3 | 21:28 |
| gustav28 | how do you test it without system images? can you build the kernel and hot-swap it on a running system?:0 | 21:32 |
| gustav28 | (i mean how have you tested it thus far) | 21:33 |
| josch | gustav28: you take a system image with an older kernel and then run "sudo apt upgrade" after adding the right entries in /etc/apt/sources.list | 21:33 |
| minute | gustav28: the kernel is just a file on a disk, like sd card for example | 21:33 |
| josch | or you do it manually using dpkg -i linux-image.deb | 21:33 |
| minute | also, yeah what josch says | 21:34 |
| josch | or you do it like me, and build a new system image from scratch by placing the kernel *.deb into the ./repo directory and then running mkimage.sh | 21:34 |
| minute | so the latest results of the CI pipeline i tested by installing the .deb packages of the kernel manually | 21:34 |
| josch | you can also do it just using the CI by going here: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/pipelines/new | 21:35 |
| josch | and in REFORM_DEBIAN_PACKAGES_BRANCH you put in the branch name of reform-debian-packages that your *.deb packages should come from | 21:35 |
| + SavagePeanut (59eaa45ac7@irc.cheogram.com) | 21:38 | |
| * mjw -> Guest1770 | 21:38 | |
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| * mark_ -> mjw | 21:38 | |
| + Guest1770 (~mjw@2001:1c06:2488:1400:4fd:39a7:74ac:7bae) | 21:38 | |
| josch | puh and lastly i solved the problem with dtbs not getting copied as well... | 21:44 |
| josch | Lukas didn't even notice that dtbs were missing :D | 21:44 |
| minute | oh :D | 21:45 |
| minute | i also forgot to push a dtsi fix for hdmi1 on rk3588... | 21:45 |
| josch | i often feel bad for all the bugs my software has and then i listen to the conversations that my colleagues have about the proprietary software they are using and the bugs that they find acceptable with imho horrible workarounds and i'm feeling a bit better about my own bugs :) | 21:54 |
| minute | haha | 21:56 |
| ch | :) | 22:02 |
| gustav28 | cool, thanks for the info! do you have to run a command after you chabge the kernel, or at least I guess restart? | 22:04 |
| josch | gustav28: if you happen to be familiar with Debian it works just as it does with Debian on other platforms | 22:05 |
| gustav28 | I'm on Mac now but looking to transition to Linux.. so all this is new to me | 22:06 |
| gustav28 | for my personal projects I basically need a C compiler and graphics, and I'm tired of the fans and locked-down nature of modern macOS | 22:07 |
| gustav28 | fans as in cooling, my MBP is crazy | 22:08 |
| gustav28 | I will try to follow the development here so I'm ready when I buy the reform | 22:09 |
| gustav28 | now I'm off, thanks again | 22:09 |
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| minute | ok, feierabend and will test my rk3588 pocket reform now at home as a PC :D (connected to dell u2724de + keyboard + mouse) | 22:20 |
| josch | nice, see you tomorrow! :) | 22:21 |
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| minute | pocket reform as a pc! https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/113268289187059169 | 23:37 |
| minute | it's so nice @ 120hz 1440p | 23:37 |
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