| josch | it's metalic looking paste/pad -- i'll probably always be worried XD | 00:00 |
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| vagrantc | anyways ... eagre to get the upgraded rk3588 running in my mnt/reform :) | 00:03 |
| grimmware | Paste is stressful tho to be sure | 00:03 |
| minute | if you stress the rk3588 it gets hottttt btw | 00:07 |
| minute | afterwards it settles around 57 degrees | 00:10 |
| minute | (it's on charger) | 00:10 |
| josch | that's colder than my a311d usually is | 00:10 |
| minute | really? my a311d normally feels cooler in the pocket | 00:11 |
| josch | my a311d is usually at around 64°C in classic reform | 00:11 |
| minute | ohh | 00:11 |
| minute | my reform with rk3588 is idling at 52 degrees atm | 00:12 |
| josch | nice! | 00:12 |
| grimmware | minute: I was wondering by the way, if the external copper design on the pocket were extended to have more like, filigree and shit coming off the MNT logo and extending out to the edges do you think it would make a significant improvement to its ability to dissipate heat? | 00:13 |
| josch | must be a big relieve that the production rcore modules are actually working :) | 00:13 |
| minute | josch: yesss | 00:15 |
| minute | grimmware: actually maybe yes. it's weird how the logo is really hot. one could get a branding from it maybe | 00:15 |
| minute | temp went down to 53-54 because i wasn't doing heavy things | 00:16 |
| jfred | Suppose I'll soon find out how a different backplate with less exposed copper on the top feels/how that impacts the thermals. I just installed the current revision of the custom plate I made | 00:19 |
| jfred | if I haven't completely wrecked wifi performance I'll keep it like this + finally install my wwan card (didn't want to permanently adhere the antenna to the backplate until I had one I knew I'd be sticking with) | 00:21 |
| grimmware | minute: for a quick easy test I reckon something like https://shop.mntre.com/products/mnt-pocket-reform-t-shirt-pink-pcb?taxon_id=21 would look really cool and likely shed more heat | 00:21 |
| minute | jfred: did you make a solid metal plate? | 00:21 |
| ch | minute: is the wifi fine for you with just the one antenna (+ back plate closed)? | 00:21 |
| minute | ch: i've two antennas, just had only one in the photo at that moment | 00:22 |
| ch | ah | 00:22 |
| jfred | minute: no, still a PCB - but with exposed copper lettering: https://jawns.club/@jfred/113228639767886871 (so more copper over the edges where the antenna is, and not so much over the heatsink part) | 00:23 |
| minute | jfred: ahhh yes | 00:24 |
| jfred | my previous revision had copper over the whole top layer, but I changed that for this one for fear of causing more wifi problems haha - now it's just copper where the silkscreen cutouts are | 00:24 |
| josch | jfred: oh no, i remember your custom backplate and i was looking for it on community.mnt.re but i remember them from irc i think! | 00:26 |
| jfred | ironically though that may have helped spread the heat around had I left it that way | 00:26 |
| jfred | ah yeah, I posted about it on the forum but not sure if I put pictures there | 00:26 |
| grimmware | I’m considering fabbing some side plates (the one with the power switch) with a hole large enough for a plate-mount SMA so I can just have a honking great external antenna that unscrews when I need to put the thing in my bag | 00:29 |
| grimmware | I bought some antennas for that purpose but migrating to nvme and installing the thermal pads improved the situation enough for me to get by at the time | 00:30 |
| jfred | I worry about external antennas a bit, I know you can damage a radio if you power it on without an antenna attached | 00:30 |
| jfred | but I'm sure it would be pretty effective | 00:30 |
| grimmware | Oh. I should probably stop changing antennas with the radio turned on then :S | 00:31 |
| jfred | yeah my recollection is the antenna acts as a load and the RF signals bounce back at full power without it or something like that | 00:34 |
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| jfred | So far (unscientifically) wifi and thermals both seem fine with the new backplate. Will need to stress the CPU a bit and see if that changes | 01:10 |
| minute | nice | 01:30 |
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| digitalrane | minute, i think i missed a ping from you whilst my bouncer was messed up about the replacement reform screen? (the one I got is an IVO M125NWF4). I don't recall having the same problems you described about it switching off at low brightness, but I did noticed the brightness curve (PWM values vs brightness level) is different to the original inolux | 03:14 |
| digitalrane | *did notice | 03:15 |
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| jfred | interestingly after stressing the machine some I've only had one wifi drop that gave me trouble and it was when I moved to a spot where I know wifi coverage is poor. took it a while to reconnect after that but since then it's been solid | 05:04 |
| jfred | highest temp I've seen so far is 70 degrees on the soc sensor, it's sitting around 67 now | 05:04 |
| jfred | potential confounding factor, I think the thermal pad I put over the CPU on this backplate may have been slightly larger than the stock one | 05:06 |
| jfred | the center above the CPU module is still very hot, but it's not as immediately unpleasant to touch without the exposed copper directly in the center | 05:08 |
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| minute | digitalrane: cool, thanks! | 09:34 |
| kensanata | jfred: I don't use wifi often (got my Pocket Reform on ethernet) but the one time wifi kept failing was also extraordinarily warm (room temp around 28°C). So now I keep thinking if people from the northern hemisphere report that their wifi problems are solved, perhaps that has to do with the end of summer. | 09:46 |
| kensanata | We need to control for ambient temp, I suspect. Also very unscientifically speaking, of course. :D | 09:46 |
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| josch | minute: also some wifi feedback from me: since you changed a311d wifi, i did only have connection drops every couple of days, so the situation greatly improved | 10:47 |
| minute | josch: oh that's awesome | 11:01 |
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| grimmware | kensanata: that's a good observation about the end of summer | 11:31 |
| grimmware | I think a backplate with more exposed copper would be sensible, even if it just disperses the heat from the MNT logo a little more to make it less unpleasant to touch | 11:32 |
| minute | currently trying to source some glass. | 12:02 |
| josch | glass to touch? :) | 12:04 |
| - mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 12:12 | |
| grimmware | what for??? | 12:19 |
| ch | glassy models confirmed!11 ;) | 12:30 |
| + paperManu (~paperManu@198.16.214.40) | 12:36 | |
| grimmware | minute: just wanted to check, is the fpc connecting the enh-Ob00910003 on the OLED module the one that appears to come with the enh-Ob00910003 or a custom job? Starting to think about the feasibility of this OLED module with a qwiic connector on it. | 12:41 |
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| minute | grimmware: if you mean the flex pcb attached to the display itself, it is standard | 13:24 |
| + murphnj (~murph@user/murphnj) | 13:29 | |
| grimmware | I do | 13:54 |
| grimmware | thanks :) | 13:54 |
| grimmware | trying to order a sample from alibaba :P | 13:54 |
| grimmware | fuckin lol, they've bumped the order price from $2.40 to $44.40 for one unit | 13:56 |
| grimmware | NOPE | 13:56 |
| minute | grimmware: huh | 13:57 |
| minute | grimmware: shipping maybe? | 13:57 |
| minute | or sampling cost | 13:57 |
| grimmware | nfi, they didn't say | 13:57 |
| minute | maybe aliexpress? | 13:57 |
| minute | alibaba makes more sense for big volumes and then for single qtys there are sample fees | 13:58 |
| grimmware | yeah I just haven't seen the same item anywhere else | 13:58 |
| grimmware | search results are alibaba, the manufacturer's website and MNT | 13:59 |
| grimmware | hmm, unless I can scavenge it from a breakout board | 14:01 |
| minute | hmm yeah i assume there are identical/compatible ones | 14:01 |
| grimmware | how much do you wanna bet this is it from the shape of the fpc https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/0-91-inch-white-oled-display-module-i2c-interface?variant=39975626342483 | 14:02 |
| grimmware | yeah same thing on my keyboard by the looks of things! | 14:02 |
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| grimmware | yeah these are all over eBay and in fact if I do that I bet I'll get most of the resistors/capacitors for free! | 14:06 |
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| minute | yeah | 14:08 |
| grimmware | okay cool, I think I've convinced myself that this is doable with my tools and skillset | 14:11 |
| grimmware | I just need to look at the clearance on how the module is mounted in both pocket and big reform so I don't put the qwiic connector somewhere stupid and muster the emotional resilience to open KiCAD. | 14:13 |
| grimmware | I have a hot plate and scope that I can use to do the side with all the resistors etc on and then I think I'll probably have to try to do the chisel-tip sweep method with a soldering iron on the FPC side which I managed exactly once with a surface mount mini-USB socket | 14:16 |
| grimmware | unless someone has a better suggestion because ihavenoideawhatimdoing.jpg | 14:18 |
| Zaba | just add flux | 14:25 |
| Zaba | and remove extra solder with braid or a pump if it becomes necessary | 14:26 |
| Zaba | you generally need miniscule amounts of solder for smd | 14:26 |
| Zaba | so the solder residue on a normal-sized soldering iron tip is often all you need for a small smd component | 14:29 |
| grimmware | I meant with the strategy of doing the sweep for the FPC, like I say I'm using the hot plate for most of it | 14:30 |
| Zaba | yeah, as long as there’s flux and no excess solder to create shorts, surface tension takes care of it all | 14:34 |
| Zaba | it might also be tricky to properly heat things like big ground planes or other copper fills with an iron | 14:35 |
| Zaba | my solution to that is usually to cuss and to try to reposition the iron tip to enlarge the contact area | 14:36 |
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| minute | i'm now reading a bit of HDMI driver sources of rk3588 to see if we could patch in hdmi1 support more cleanly in the latest collabora series | 14:56 |
| grimmware | Hmm, would doing the FPC first with the hot plate and then sticking it down with kapton tape whilst I do the other side be sensible? | 14:56 |
| minute | grimmware: the fpc can be easily hand soldered with soldering iron | 14:57 |
| minute | grimmware: it has quite long exposed pins/tabs and little holes that take up solder | 14:57 |
| grimmware | Oh okay | 14:58 |
| minute | grimmware: you can see that on the one that's in the reform | 14:58 |
| minute | (we don't fold it behind the display) | 14:58 |
| grimmware | Yeah that’s the reference I was going from. | 14:59 |
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| minute | here's my plan for adding hdmi1 support back to the collabora patch stack for rk3588 https://source.mnt.re/-/snippets/12 | 15:41 |
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| jfred | kensanata: indeed, that seems possible :) | 16:34 |
| minute | interesting error > [drm] HDMI Sink doesn't support RGB, something's wrong. | 16:51 |
| minute | but hdmi1 works! so the required patch is pretty smol | 16:54 |
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| minute | aha, fixed by fixing EDID which was fixed by fixing HPD for hdmi1 | 17:19 |
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| ryukazou | I found a shop that welling to re-andoizing for me, but I kinda worry the de-anodizing process before re-andoizing would hurt the screw hole. They seem to use alkali to de-andoizing. | 18:48 |
| grimmware | ryukazou: what are you doing this for, a different colour? :O | 18:52 |
| ryukazou | grimmware: Yeah, I plan to make my pocket reform this colour https://i.imgur.com/ny8zE61.jpeg | 18:54 |
| minute | ryukazou: yeah i'm not sure about the effect on screw holes... maybe they could be plugged or sth? maybe they have a solution for it? | 18:55 |
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| ryukazou | Purple is kinda grow on me too, so I’m not really quite sure. If the de-andoizing treatment will hurt the shell, I would probably order purple one and give the original to my dad. | 18:57 |
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| Boostisbetter | does anyone have a suggestion on where you can get 18650 cells in Germany? I am looking for normal LIPO ones as I finally found a battery pack that uses 18650s that you can replace. | 19:04 |
| hramrach | any random elecrtonic part store https://www.tme.eu/de/en/katalog/rechargeable-batteries_100076/?queryPhrase=18650https://www.tme.eu/de/en/katalog/rechargeable-batteries_100076/?queryPhrase=18650 | 19:10 |
| hramrach | https://www.conrad.de/de/search.html?search=18650 | 19:11 |
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| josch | minute: just saw your mail to Chris from collabora -- thank you for working on this! I cannot wait holding my rk3588 reform in my hands. :) | 19:48 |
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| + gustav28 (~gustav@c-5834524e.019-141-67626730.bbcust.telenor.se) | 20:02 | |
| minute | josch: yeah i'm working on the frequencies now... would be nice to be able to just plug in any monitor and go | 20:16 |
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| minute | nice, 1440p @ 120Hz works | 21:03 |
| ch | yay | 21:09 |
| + jaume (~user@user/jaume) | 21:10 | |
| + jaume` (~user@139.47.115.207) | 21:11 | |
| minute | lets see if this goes through CI... https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/merge_requests/58/diffs?commit_id=ab344169899a7e627ab9ea837a65a15ad34b6939 | 21:40 |
| minute | this will also be interesting to get even more bandwidth, but something for later https://gitlab.collabora.com/hardware-enablement/rockchip-3588/linux/-/commit/b90e5bd5beb974de975aea562ca6dce1ea96d5f9 | 21:45 |
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| minute | pipeline failed :D | 21:54 |
| minute | josch: strange, there are panthor patches that fail now, were they backported? | 21:55 |
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| minute | anyway, removing 'em | 22:02 |
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| skf | o/ | 22:11 |
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| minute | wat > The next patch would create the file drivers/gpu/drm/rockchip/dw-mipi-dsi2-rockchip.c, which already exists! Applying it anyway. | 22:19 |
| minute | but how | 22:19 |
| minute | ah it's because of merging in main and some clashing patch file names | 22:20 |
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| josch | minute: as far as i see in MR 58 you rebase on branch "main" and my backporting is in branch linux6.11 unless you mean something else? | 22:42 |
| - murphnj (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~murph@user/murphnj) | 22:42 | |
| josch | oh you are on 6.10 but still had 0068-drm-pantor-...? | 22:45 |
| josch | minute: that got merged in 6.10.10 as a6b268fce7bf5 | 22:46 |
| josch | minute: see https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/commit/0568bf58940076bf4cf44be11de1b36e9800240a | 22:46 |
| minute | josch: aha, thx | 22:57 |
| minute | funny > can't find file to patch | 22:59 |
| minute | anyway, am in feierabend now, tomorrow more | 22:59 |
| josch | minute: i think you want to apply that patch against drivers/gpu/drm/rockchip/dw_hdmi-rockchip.c and not against drivers/gpu/drm/rockchip/dw_hdmi_qp-rockchip.c | 23:11 |
| josch | minute: what's the base of that patch? | 23:11 |
| minute | josch: no, i need to first import the patches from collabora that create _qp-rockchip.c | 23:21 |
| minute | i mistakenly assumed they were already in there | 23:21 |
| josch | ah kk | 23:22 |
| josch | yeah, i see now that all the functions you patch are missing XD | 23:22 |
| minute | this stuff and related https://gitlab.collabora.com/hardware-enablement/rockchip-3588/linux/-/commit/a320500222e2ea8707d3735ac77246dcad22f6d9 | 23:23 |
| josch | we should also find a nicer way for you to manage these patch stacks | 23:23 |
| josch | do you have some ideas what would make it easier for you? | 23:24 |
| josch | minute: that commit you linked is from the rk3588 branch which is the branch that collabora already based on linux 6.11 | 23:26 |
| josch | minute: but you base your work on 6.10 | 23:26 |
| minute | josch: yeah it doesn't matter in this case, that driver should also work on 6.10 and then we'll have an easier time bringing it to 6.11 | 23:27 |
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| josch | minute: maybe we should switch to maintaining the patch stack in multiple git branches of the stable linux git -- would that make it easier for you? | 23:53 |
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