2024-09-04.log

chbackground setters, launcher menus, drawers/bars must be the most-often NIH things00:00
NanoCodeBugso vbus being always on while the som was on was feeding back into the charger - which while not charging, was using the current to power itself. now that vbus is being turned off unless something is plugged in, the charger has to fallback to its internal power while in battery mode, and i'm seeing what looks like an entire 2 watts of power00:03
NanoCodeBugsavings. thats so big that i'm not sure its accurate but that's what the charger circuit is reporting.00:03
joschch: but i assume you do not know of another existing wallpaper switcher that is packed in debian and respects org.gnome.desktop.background?00:04
joschi just asked in #debian-devel without success...00:04
chNanoCodeBug: ah, was just checking my pocket (which also has vbus off most of the time now) and i think in off state it seems to use less power? (just judging from it being off for a day and the resulting battery %)00:06
chjosch: no idea, no00:08
NanoCodeBugch: if this data is correct than this nearly doubles the battery life (at least with the a311d) while turned on and idle with nothing plugged in.00:08
NanoCodeBughaving vbus off that is00:09
NanoCodeBughttps://source.mnt.re/NanoCodeBug/pocket-reform/-/jobs/5824/artifacts/browse/pocket-reform-sysctl-fw/build/00:11
NanoCodeBuganyways this one is working properly with the battery driver and keyboard now, and keeps recording charger current while vbus is off.00:11
minutejosch: i'll gladly ship you wallpaper software00:18
joschreform-wallpaper?00:18
joschit doesn't have to be in PATH00:18
joschcould be in /usr/libexec00:19
joschit just has to be started by sway/wayfire00:19
minutejosch: sure00:19
minuteNanoCodeBug: that sounds... interesting to say the least00:20
joschi want it just noted that i would rather re-use something that exists and is in the debian archive -- i just spent more time looking for that than i spent writing this code...00:20
minutejosch: i couldn't find anyrhing00:21
joschwell, if we don't put it in $PATH we can throw it out at a later time when something is found00:22
NanoCodeBugminute: i don't entirely trust that number because the chip needs to power itself either way, it might just not report its idle current as a part of the discharge current when running off battery directly, and the 5v regulator is not being powered off either.00:29
NanoCodeBugi could see it doing less discharge current when the some is powered off though00:30
chjosch: do you happen to know why greetd starts /bin/sh instead of the users shell?00:31
NanoCodeBugnah it wouldn'00:32
NanoCodeBugt affect power off either, the 5v rail is turned off00:33
joschch: https://salsa.debian.org/debian/greetd/-/merge_requests/500:33
chjosch: nice (commented)00:35
minutehmm, wifi 7 cards, ath12k https://compex.com.sg/shop/wifi-module/wle7002e25d-wifi7-11be-qcn6224-qcn6274-qcn9274/00:35
minuteNanoCodeBug: ok, i will look into that tomorrow00:35
chqcacld_wlan presents two wifi interfaces, wlan0 and p2p0... i guess that needs some qcom_wlan.cfg magic00:41
^alex`qcacld` as a kernel module name throws us, we parse it as `qcacl daemon` because that's how the brain does the thing00:42
chthe name is not great, i agree00:44
minutech: i turned the p2p off in our build00:44
chminute: is that to be done in the .ini or elsewhere?00:45
minutech: i think makefile00:45
chminute: thanks, will dig00:46
minutehmmm now where did i do that00:56
minutecan't find it tonight but it was some build config option01:00
minutejosch: ah i made a typo. s/gladly ship you/gladly ship your/g01:01
joschas we are in the process of shipping, here is the script as i have it so far: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/640920a7/01:02
joschplease report bugs or missing features01:03
minutech: ooof found it https://source.mnt.re/reform/qcacld2/-/commit/880b4d447b841c3c5371b7bc821c69d71aa52147#b3f550d4cb438044b70491691c039c87cd6a0dfb_1618_161601:03
joschbut as this is a single script and architecture independent it should be easy to maintain going forward01:03
minutejosch: ok, will test now on my pocket01:03
chminute: thanks! was just staring at that CDEFINES line :)01:03
minute> ValueError: Namespace GtkLayerShell not available01:04
minuteok i need to install something01:04
minutetrying sudo apt install gir1.2-gtklayershell-0.101:05
joschyes, that should be the package01:05
minutejosch: ok, first bug: it is only the quarter of the screen's size01:05
joschoh?01:05
minutejosch: that's probably because it doesn't support the desktop scale01:05
joschaha!01:06
minute(of 2.0)01:06
minute> (reform-wallpaper.py:2435): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: 01:07:02.642: gdk_pixbuf_composite: assertion 'dest_y >= 0 && dest_y + dest_height <= dest->height' failed01:07
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minutejosch: i set a background image with gnome-tweaks but it doesn't show up in reform-wallpaper.01:08
minuteit also gives a bunch of > background style not supported: 501:08
joschminute: thank you for trying it out! I'll fix the scaling and try out gnome-tweaks tomorrow01:09
minuteoh weird, there's a picture now after exiting gnome-tweaks01:09
minutejosch: another thing, it seems to have a cyan backgrround as default. this also letterboxes the image i chose. i suggest to make the default bg black01:10
joschmaybe something is wrong because of the scaling related assertion01:10
joschminute: the cyan background is chosen by you via org.gnome.desktop.background setting primary-color01:10
minuteaha, it seems like only the mode "Scaled" is supported01:11
minutejosch: oh ok... then that's some weird default01:11
minutejosch: but it doesn't fill the screen. it fits the screen. i think the main mode one wants is to fill the screen.01:11
minutei.e. right now it fits and letterboxes01:12
minutei think instead of "not supporting" the other modes and doing nothing it should select a reasonable default mode (fill)01:12
joschi might've just mixed up the two01:13
joschi'll fix that tomorrow01:13
joschbut yes, both fit and fill should be supported01:13
minutecool, looking forward :301:13
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joschminute: this should work a bit better: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/932207df/01:23
* robin -> lispwitch01:28
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joschminute: okay, scaling issue now also fixed: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/ae4b4a3f/01:40
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henesyis the RK cpu module being only sold from mnt direct in germany or will it find its way to CS state-side?03:23
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_hramrachif the qcacld module needs to be force-loaded that means it's built incorrectly. Some downstream buildsystem problem I suppose09:24
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chfrom #debian-arm: (for rk3588) hrw | diederik: https://salsa.debian.org/kernel-team/linux/-/merge_requests/1187 and https://salsa.debian.org/kernel-team/linux/-/merge_requests/118611:36
chbleh, very loud construction work noises. thats not helping me poke at the sysctl fw more12:07
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joschminute: since i'm preparing a new reform-tools release, what color would you prefer for org.gnome.desktop.background "primary-color" attribute? black?13:19
joschthat's the color that is on the side of the wallpaper if it does not stretch across all available space13:20
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joschor the color that the image will be put on top of if alpha is not set to 10013:20
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joschthe default primary color is the cyan that you already observed: #023c8813:22
joschthat's from /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnome.desktop.background.gschema.xml13:23
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_hramrachIf you do not want to sample it from the image itself set some default that vaguely matches the default wallpaper which would be likely white in this case. My preference is something like Gray10 but that does not match the image at all.14:25
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joschyes, i think a dark gray would be nice15:04
joschbut *shrug* in the end minute is the one with the good sense of taste and idea of design :)15:05
joschminute: yet more bug fixes and more features for reform-background: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/b0eb420f/15:32
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chthe mediatek wifi card seems to fare a lot better under bad conditions18:34
chi guess i also need to get my wifi at home finally fixed :)18:35
_hramrachmy wifi at home seems to work for anything but pocket reform18:45
_hramrachand it worked OK with the shipped kernel but then I updgraded packages and it stopped18:46
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noam...is the Pocket Reform cheaper from the MNT Store than from crowdsupply? I'm assuming that's not true if shipping is accounted for...19:20
noam(Was looking at teh keyboard and noticed the price and got curious :P)19:20
henesyppretty sure CS is cheaper for if no reason but shipping19:22
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noami'm still not going to gt one19:24
noamdefinitely not19:24
noamI can look without touchign, right?19:24
noamRight?? >_<19:24
chcan you already feel it pulling you in? :D19:27
henesyjust gotta find a reform meetup near you19:33
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joschlike... this one? :) https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/11308008485389630219:45
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_hramrachtried to build qcacld2 and it completely fails20:09
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staticbunnywhats the standard timeline to expect a response from support? (biz days)20:13
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kop316staticbunny: I'm actually wondering this too, I sent something a week ago20:16
staticbunnyyup same. I get they aren't a big company or anything, but i also don't want to fall through the cracks.20:17
_hramrachhm with WLAN_OPEN_SOURCE=1 it takes much longer to fail so I suppose tuning the options can avoid the broken code20:17
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joschstaticbunny, kop316: it can take a bit (because of tiny company at all) but joining this channel and pinging minute about your issue seems to have helped others in the past20:23
jfredjosch: if only there were a US east coast meetup haha. there's been a seattle one and now this one... then again, no idea how many people have Reforms/Pocket Reforms around here XD20:24
jfredmaybe I should post on the forum and see if there's any interest20:25
joschjfred: you should organize one :)20:26
staticbunnyjosch, thanks. My issue is related a bad charge board that needs replacing. So i'll probably need to wait for support to get to my email.20:27
joschminute: bad pocket charge board ^20:30
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kop316josch: thanks! I'm not too worried, mine was to change an order of the rk3588 to a full on mnt pocket reform upgrade20:34
staticbunnyooo jealous ;-)20:34
joschkop316: last information is, that the rk3588 adapters will be done september 1920:39
joschkop316: https://mntre.com/reform-irc-logs/2024-08-24.log.html#t19:51:4820:39
_hramrachugh, given the code quality of the qcacld driver I am not surprised it randomly fails. The amount of missing function prototypes and implicit conversions is astounding. It would be surprising if none of that introduced bug even if it happens to build.20:45
_hramrachand there is a lot of  variants floating around, too. Looks like prime example of really bad quality downstream driver. If you buy bazilloin of devices they customize it to work for you but they do not want to put the effort into making the driver generally usable.20:57
jfredah, and that's the driver used for the imx8mp module's onboard wifi isn't it?21:34
jfredthat's annoying21:35
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minutestaticbunny: kop316: there's only one support person and they work part time, and it's summertime with holidays here and there of some people. sorry for the delays23:05
minutebut they do a thorough job of reminding me and coworker to take care of specific rmas etc23:06
kop316minute: no worries, i understand! just as long as it gets changed before shipping, I don't mind23:07
staticbunnyminute: no worries. thanks for responding. I've seen too many good projects die because customers didnt let the company have a good work/life balance. We're all here for the long haul.23:08
kop316josch: josch: sorry I meant I only ordered the rk3588 and wanted to change it. I wasn't worried about when it shipped, just wanted to make sure the order was changed23:08
minutejosch: yes black @ letterbox23:09
minutestaticbunny: my work/life balance is indeed pretty bad. at least there are weekends23:12
staticbunnyminute: sorry :-( ive been there. im 45 and most of my facial hair is grey. Try and get out and in nature23:15
minuteyeah...23:19
minute_hramrach: maybe it's worth a shot to look into ath10k again 23:25
minutegoogling, i found my own emails about it... https://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/ath10k/2023-June/014558.html cc _hramrach23:28
minutethis was the last state https://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/ath10k/2023-June/014561.html23:34
minuteso one could try forward porting some ancient ath10k version and using LEH firmware23:34
minutei'm really sorry the imx8mp wifi situation is such a mess. boundary devices made it sound like it's totally fine back then. and i've used qcacld on preproduction pocket for months basically23:36
minuteso possibly there's a regression somewhere that made it worse? i'll need to grab an imx8mp pocket for myself and dogfood that again for a while23:36
minuteit's kind of hard to go back from a311d (or rk3588) though ^^23:37
minutealso, i can only recommend the mediatek wifi card solution... 13 bucks23:37
minute(or bundle with antennas from our shop)23:38
staticbunnyminute: is there any documentation on the available interfaces like i2c and how to interact with them? From the little i've search it seems like the website, forum and gitlab are the only offical places with info. Are there plans to setup a wiki?23:57

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