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| ch | josch: what do you mean by " | 02:19 |
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| ch | josch: what do you mean by "i (you) cannot fix them"? | 02:19 |
| ch | josch: a few things are i guess already pending (like fw in NEW); other things are arguably bugs/improvements in existing packages; some things are probably issues in the shipped config files | 02:20 |
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| josch | ch: i think i took care of all of the things that i can address -- for the rest, somebody with a pocket has to do something about them. That's what i mean. | 08:31 |
| josch | ch: if you mean to say "we should have a debian stable reform team and that team needs a way to track issues" then we can absolutely find a solution to that :) | 08:31 |
| henesy | playing audio with the headphone jack connected plays audio out both the jack and the speaker and pavucontrol only shows a speaker output, is this a bug? | 08:53 |
| henesy | or just a present limitation | 08:53 |
| + gustav28 (~gustav@c-bd37524e.019-141-67626730.bbcust.telenor.se) | 10:02 | |
| minute | henesy: the issue is missing alsa ucm profiles | 10:16 |
| minute | henesy: so right now you have to manually toggle things in alsamixer (f6, select second card) | 10:16 |
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| + jjbliss (~jjbliss@1464766-static.elnsmiaa.metronetinc.net) | 10:27 | |
| henesy | oh i see that's okay then | 10:44 |
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| + GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) | 10:55 | |
| josch | ch: after the reform.d.n run today, there were still some bugs. These should be fixed now. Next try tomorrow. :) | 11:38 |
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| - amospalla (QUIT: Quit: WeeChat 4.3.6) (~jordi@user/amospalla) | 17:12 | |
| dozens | is 'upower' still the recommended workaround for the waybar battery bug? (on the pocket) | 17:30 |
| Twodisbetter | dozens: there was a frameware update that fixed the root of the issue, so I believe the default that ships with the Pocket is what is used still. | 17:34 |
| NanoCodeBug | with the lpc firmware update upower is no longer needed | 17:43 |
| + amospalla (~jordi@user/amospalla) | 17:45 | |
| Twodisbetter | boy howdy will hibernation elevate the Pocket to the next level! Really hope there is hope on that front. | 17:49 |
| - GNUmoon (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) | 18:00 | |
| + GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) | 18:01 | |
| amospalla | with the firmware update even `acpi` gives you the estimated remaining battery time. | 18:03 |
| ch | josch: ok. i'm thinking, without a list, nothing will happen :) | 18:27 |
| dozens | re: hibernation, agreed! i just power it off and on all the time presently haha | 18:29 |
| + andypiper (~andypiper@45.146.10.36) | 18:32 | |
| Twodisbetter | pain in the butt for me. Takes forever to get things all set up each time. Not the end of the world though. | 18:32 |
| dozens | is 'lpc firmware update' something i can install with a `reform` command? | 18:41 |
| dozens | oh i see lpc is the hardware | 18:42 |
| Twodisbetter | I believe it was simply a sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade | 18:42 |
| dozens | oh neat! | 18:42 |
| ch | ttps://community.mnt.re/t/mnt-pocket-reform-system-controller-firmware-update-2024-08-26/2434 | 18:42 |
| ch | https://community.mnt.re/t/mnt-pocket-reform-system-controller-firmware-update-2024-08-26/2434 | 18:43 |
| ch | explains how to install the fw update | 18:43 |
| dozens | thanks! | 18:43 |
| ch | minute: in pocket-reform.git, the 2024-08-26B tag is not on main. could you merge the branch with that tag into main? | 18:46 |
| josch | ch: true, so if you want to make a list, just make one in a way that you prefer using? :) | 19:08 |
| * andypiper -> andypiper[afk] | 19:24 | |
| - andypiper[afk] (QUIT: Quit: My device has gone to sleep. Zzzz…) (~andypiper@45.146.10.36) | 19:24 | |
| ch | surprised the backlight has at best a 250mA impact on power draw | 19:26 |
| josch | ch: do you have ideas on where to collect reform.d.n specific issues? | 19:38 |
| ch | could someone approve my gitlab account, then i'd push my (tiny) fixes for the pocket sysctl fw? | 20:03 |
| ch | josch: your salsa issues suggestion seems sensible | 20:03 |
| ch | given the source is already there | 20:03 |
| josch | ch: reform.d.n does not git pull from source.mnt.re but from salsa. Here is the git: https://salsa.debian.org/reform-team/reform-debian-packages/ | 20:08 |
| ch | josch: yes i saw that | 20:10 |
| josch | so, the source is there :) | 20:14 |
| + andypiper (~andypiper@45.146.10.36) | 20:14 | |
| ch | thats what i said, no? | 20:27 |
| ^alex | hmm, `picotool` 2 still not in apt | 20:27 |
| ch | if you enable issues there, i can see to convert my note dump into issues | 20:27 |
| dozens | can someb | 20:50 |
| dozens | can somebody link me to the default waybar config and style.css? i accidentally deleted mine and messed it all up :( | 20:51 |
| ch | https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/tree/main/etc/skel/.config/waybar | 20:54 |
| ch | should also be in /etc/skel/.config/waybar on your system | 20:54 |
| dozens | oh nice thanks | 20:54 |
| dozens | the example config+style in /etc/xdg/waybar is Hideous haha | 20:59 |
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| + Manis (01a66df340@84-73-19-122.dclient.hispeed.ch) | 21:18 | |
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| dozens | hmm, pocket seems to discharge pretty steadily when being used even when plugged in.. | 21:57 |
| ^alex | PD doesn't like to negotiate with the machine on | 22:02 |
| ^alex | with some chargers | 22:02 |
| josch | ch: aha, sorry i misunderstood :) | 22:03 |
| josch | ch: issues are enabled! | 22:04 |
| ch | dozens: yes indeed. i think ^alex were working on reducing idle draw | 22:14 |
| ch | ^alex: https://per.namespace.at/~ch/sysctl-fw.diff the sleep reduction helps with PD neg, but clearly its just papering over the actual problem | 22:15 |
| henesy | dozens -- what color is the led on the usbc port side? | 22:15 |
| dozens | i turned it off and plugged it in, and it was blinking red near the mini hdmi | 22:20 |
| ch | (sorry i misunderstood; i thought you were talking about discharging while off) | 22:22 |
| ^alex | charging is solid-red | 22:22 |
| ^alex | if it's blinking, it's unhappy with the charger | 22:23 |
| ^alex | unfortunately we're not a PD hacker, or equipped really to debug it :/ | 22:23 |
| ch | when its actually charging, the battery icon in waybar should turn into a power plug | 22:24 |
| dozens | oh okay. it's a macbook usb-c charger. | 22:31 |
| dozens | what's PD? | 22:32 |
| ch | power delivery | 22:35 |
| ch | its the protocol between the laptop and the charger | 22:35 |
| ^alex | our pocket doesn't like the apple charger either | 22:45 |
| ch | which apple chargers do you all have? | 22:47 |
| ^alex | the 61-watt brick that came with our macbook | 22:50 |
| ^alex | we're charging the pocket off of the 20W port of our partner's dual-port Belkin | 22:51 |
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| - mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 23:17 | |
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| grimmware | Oh that’s interesting I didn’t think to try the 18W port on my Anker | 23:19 |
| grimmware | That Ugreen Nexode 65W that everyone swears by is a nice piece of kit regardless | 23:19 |
| + cow321 (~deflated8@user/meow/deflated8837) | 23:21 | |
| - andypiper (QUIT: Quit: My device has gone to sleep. Zzzz…) (~andypiper@45.146.10.36) | 23:33 | |
| henesy | works great for me | 23:36 |
| + mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 23:44 | |
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