| * andypiper -> andypiper[afk] | 00:07 | |
| - andypiper[afk] (QUIT: Quit: My device has gone to sleep. Zzzz…) (~andypiper@45.148.12.75) | 00:07 | |
| + andypiper (~andypiper@45.148.12.75) | 00:18 | |
| - andypiper (QUIT: Client Quit) (~andypiper@45.148.12.75) | 00:21 | |
| + jacobk (~quassel@12.156.26.187) | 00:33 | |
| henesy | sevan: does steam ship arm64 binaries? I wasn't aware that was even remotely supported | 00:51 |
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| josch | henesy: it works via box86 and box64: https://community.mnt.re/t/steam-on-the-mnt-reform/684/10 | 00:55 |
| henesy | oh interesting, i had tried getting box64 up and running and hadn't succeeded and had to purge a bunch of apt garbage from my setup | 00:57 |
| henesy | ill take a peek later | 00:57 |
| josch | henesy: i played 40+ hours of stardew valley in co-op multiplayer with box64 from the debian repos | 00:58 |
| henesy | mrbcmorris: im not big for RGB but i do like a feature my keyboard had in its firmware where the faster you type the warmer the backlight color gets, then cools back down over time | 00:59 |
| henesy | cool! | 00:59 |
| henesy | stardrew on the pocket reform is actually a huge motivator <<< | 00:59 |
| - ephase (QUIT: Quit: WeeChat 4.3.1) (~ephase@2a01:e0a:2a:5300:8af3:6216:8fce:7058) | 00:59 | |
| + jacobk_ (~quassel@12.156.26.181) | 01:04 | |
| - jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 276 seconds) (~quassel@12.156.26.187) | 01:04 | |
| henesy | i see there's a new firmware update, do the power changes include the fix for starting charging while powered on? | 01:04 |
| henesy | and for firmware updates, is there a cli tool to just run and update the firmware? | 01:06 |
| josch | henesy: after unzipping, cd into scripts and run ./update-sysctl-firmware.sh | 01:12 |
| minute | henesy: yes, the shell script for that is included, see the instructions on the release page | 01:12 |
| henesy | thank yall much | 01:12 |
| ^alex | and also, in the future, syscon updates shouldn't yoink the power out from under you | 01:13 |
| ^alex | (no way to fix that with this one, the old fw doesn't know about the watchdog magic so the new one will think it's been freshly powered on) | 01:15 |
| mrbcmorris | ah henesy sounds like a fun usage of rgb | 01:21 |
| - mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 01:23 | |
| - jacobk_ (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~quassel@12.156.26.181) | 01:27 | |
| + jacobk (~quassel@12.156.26.182) | 01:31 | |
| + andypiper (~andypiper@45.148.12.75) | 01:50 | |
| - jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~quassel@12.156.26.182) | 01:56 | |
| - andypiper (QUIT: Ping timeout: 265 seconds) (~andypiper@45.148.12.75) | 01:56 | |
| - mtm (QUIT: Ping timeout: 255 seconds) (~textual@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) | 02:02 | |
| - Gooberpatrol_66 (QUIT: Quit: Konversation terminated!) (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 02:05 | |
| + mtm (~textual@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) | 02:05 | |
| + Gooberpatrol_66 (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 02:06 | |
| henesy | firmware updated! | 02:09 |
| mrbcmorris | woohoo | 02:12 |
| - mrbcmorris (QUIT: Quit: leaving) (~mrbcmorri@user/mrbcmorris) | 02:25 | |
| + mrbcmorris (~mrbcmorri@user/mrbcmorris) | 02:40 | |
| henesy | libgl1-mesa-dri:armhf : Depends: libglapi-mesa:armhf (= 24.1.6-1) but it is not going to be installed | 03:01 |
| henesy | for folks that installed box64 steam how did you circvumvent | 03:01 |
| - nsc (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~nicolas@i5C74DF4B.versanet.de) | 03:14 | |
| + nsc (~nicolas@1-99-142-46.pool.kielnet.net) | 03:16 | |
| - aloo_shu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~aloo_shu@90.166.98.247) | 03:22 | |
| henesy | sudo apt install libglapi-mesa:armhf libegl-mesa0:armhf libqt5gui5-gles:armhf libgbm1:armhf | 03:22 |
| henesy | seems to work | 03:22 |
| + aloo_shu (~aloo_shu@90.166.98.247) | 03:31 | |
| - kop316 (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (m-6f6zq6@static.138.159.90.157.clients.your-server.de) | 04:03 | |
| + kop316 (m-6f6zq6@static.138.159.90.157.clients.your-server.de) | 04:04 | |
| - kop316 (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (m-6f6zq6@static.138.159.90.157.clients.your-server.de) | 04:04 | |
| + kop316 (m-6f6zq6@static.138.159.90.157.clients.your-server.de) | 04:04 | |
| - cobra (QUIT: Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) (~cobra@user/Cobra) | 04:05 | |
| jfred | openrgb on the pocket reform is fun :D | 04:06 |
| jfred | are you planning to try and upstream support for the pocket reform keyboard in openrgb? | 04:12 |
| henesy | hmm steamwebhelper doesnt want to start even with dependencies installed | 04:24 |
| + cobra (~cobra@user/Cobra) | 04:29 | |
| + phabulosa (~phabulosa@64.186.9.81) | 04:33 | |
| phabulosa | Any MNT research guy here? | 04:35 |
| phabulosa | My Pocket Reform is DEAD. :( | 04:35 |
| ^alex | how did it die? | 04:46 |
| phabulosa | https://community.mnt.re/t/help-pocket-reform-no-longer-powers-on-not-even-the-charging-led/2439 | 04:47 |
| phabulosa | The charging LED is not even ON now. | 04:47 |
| ^alex | to turn it on, the standby switch goes towards the headphone jack | 04:49 |
| phabulosa | I put the standby switch in the ON position now, But the charging LED is still not ON. | 04:51 |
| ^alex | are you also using the topmost pot | 04:51 |
| ^alex | port* | 04:52 |
| phabulosa | Yes, top most USB-C port. | 04:53 |
| phabulosa | The strange thing was that the keyboard backlight went on and off during boot before the device died. | 04:55 |
| ^alex | hmm | 05:04 |
| - phabulosa (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~phabulosa@64.186.9.81) | 05:04 | |
| - Gooberpatrol_66 (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 05:13 | |
| + Gooberpatrol66 (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 05:13 | |
| henesy | hm i got stardew working now the speaker audio doesnt output | 05:27 |
| + phabulosa (~phabulosa@64.186.9.81) | 05:27 | |
| - phabulosa (QUIT: Ping timeout: 276 seconds) (~phabulosa@64.186.9.81) | 05:40 | |
| + phabulosa (~phabulosa@64.186.9.81) | 06:00 | |
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| - Gooberpatrol66 (QUIT: Quit: Konversation terminated!) (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 06:09 | |
| + Gooberpatrol66 (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 06:10 | |
| + Gooberpatrol_66 (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 06:53 | |
| - Gooberpatrol66 (QUIT: Ping timeout: 272 seconds) (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 06:54 | |
| henesy | josch: are you only able to start stardew once per boot? i get a segfault after the first run ;; also using the steamcmd cli, never did get gui steam running | 07:02 |
| xha | jfred, how did you manage to use the effects? i think i did everything correctly, but running the binary only allows me to change the color of the keyboard (successfully), but in the effects tab, nothing's changing. i might also just be not smart enough to use user inerfaces lol | 07:18 |
| josch | henesy: how often did you try to start it? | 08:34 |
| - mlarkin (QUIT: Ping timeout: 264 seconds) (~mlarkin@syn-047-036-115-056.res.spectrum.com) | 09:28 | |
| + mlarkin (~mlarkin@syn-047-036-115-056.res.spectrum.com) | 09:30 | |
| + phabulosa (~phabulosa@64.186.9.81) | 10:02 | |
| - phabulosa (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~phabulosa@64.186.9.81) | 10:07 | |
| + mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 10:42 | |
| grimmware | hey, I'm trying to follow instructions to flash the sysctl (whcih I've done before) and picotool is claiming that there are no devices in bootsel mode. I seem to remember there being a keybind to do this but I can't remember what it is | 11:34 |
| grimmware | never mind, I found it | 12:09 |
| minute | keybind? that's only for the keyboard | 12:14 |
| minute | grimmware: how did you solve this? | 12:14 |
| grimmware | I didn’t, just realised that’s for the keyboard | 12:15 |
| grimmware | So I’ve still got the issue that it’s not finding the sysctl | 12:16 |
| - GNUmoon (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) | 12:19 | |
| + GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) | 12:20 | |
| grimmware | Even using -f and -F I get nothing | 12:23 |
| grimmware | It’s not showing up in lsusb at all | 12:23 |
| grimmware | The keyboard is | 12:24 |
| grimmware | From my reading of the handbook the sysctl should be connected directly to the motherboard’s hub so there shouldn’t be any physical connectivity problem | 12:27 |
| grimmware | Just tried unplugging power and toggling the power slider switch off and on, no dice, still not enumerating in lsusb | 12:36 |
| gsora | minute: is there a way to associate an order i did on mntre shop to a newly registered account? | 12:38 |
| - mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 12:48 | |
| + andypiper (~andypiper@138.248.189.186) | 12:58 | |
| grimmware | Full system update and reboot, still no system controller in lsusb | 12:59 |
| andypiper | minute: fwiw your reform-waypanel sliders work nicely. Needed to install libgtk-4-dev and libgtk4-layer-shell-dev to build. | 13:03 |
| andypiper | grimmware: on my Pocket I see MNT Pocket Reform Input as one device on `lsusb` and then another Raspberry Pi Pico device in there (which I guess is the sys controller? on Bus 3) | 13:08 |
| grimmware | yeah I only have the hub on bus 3 | 13:08 |
| grimmware | which is where the sysctl should be | 13:08 |
| grimmware | Sounds like I'm probably going to have to do the dance of flashing it externally unless anyone has any better ideas | 13:09 |
| grimmware | I think imma go give that a shot now | 13:11 |
| * Guest933 -> mjw | 13:12 | |
| * andypiper -> andypiper[afk] | 13:50 | |
| * andypiper[afk] -> andypiper | 13:51 | |
| andypiper | anyone interested in using wlmaker on the Pocket (which requires Wayland to apply rotation at startup) there's an in-progress issue on this -> https://github.com/phkaeser/wlmaker/issues/97#issuecomment-2311297615 | 13:53 |
| andypiper | I'm tinkering with getting openrgb to start my preferred effect when Sway comes up without me needing to manually enable it in the menu. | 13:54 |
| - mtm (QUIT: Ping timeout: 244 seconds) (~textual@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) | 14:02 | |
| - ericsfraga (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~user@2.28.14.250) | 14:05 | |
| + mtm (~textual@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) | 14:05 | |
| + IchikaZou (~IchikaZou@27-240-202-221.adsl.fetnet.net) | 14:24 | |
| - IchikaZou (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~IchikaZou@27-240-202-221.adsl.fetnet.net) | 14:24 | |
| grimmware | minute: manual flash has fixed it | 14:28 |
| grimmware | minute: I'm guessing there weren't any further power negotiation changes since the previous revision I tested? | 14:30 |
| andypiper | the release yesterday was the one that changed from 5s to 1s for negotiation AFAIUI | 14:31 |
| grimmware | Yeah I'm wondering if that's just the first actual *release* with the change in | 14:32 |
| grimmware | Previous release I was running was PREF1SYSR120240716 this one is PREF1SYSR120240730 | 14:35 |
| grimmware | I think I'm going to have to get one of the ugreen adapters because none of my PD chargers will start charging if the system is already switched on and it's a real pain in the ass because it essentially means I have to reboot the thing if it starts running out of battery and I have to plug it in | 14:37 |
| * andypiper -> andypiper[afk] | 14:43 | |
| - colinsane (QUIT: Quit: bye) (~colinunin@97-113-95-111.tukw.qwest.net) | 15:27 | |
| + colinsane (~colinunin@97-113-95-111.tukw.qwest.net) | 15:29 | |
| minute | grimmware: yeah probably only minor changes for you | 15:31 |
| minute | grimmware: so that thing still needs fixing then | 15:31 |
| minute | grimmware: maybe it's still the same delay thing and that number could still be lower... but risky to test if you rely on pocket | 15:31 |
| * andypiper[afk] -> andypiper | 15:41 | |
| grimmware | I don’t rely on the pocket yet :) | 15:42 |
| grimmware | I can maybe have a punt at lowering it further later today - should be able to pull the last changes out of the git log and fiddle them a bit lower. You reckon half a second would be a good first try? | 15:44 |
| jfred | xha: The UI is a bit fiddly, you have to check a box to enable the effect you've added on the left and check another box on the right to apply it to the keyboard | 15:53 |
| jfred | minute: what's the purpose of the negotiation delay, out of curiosity? | 15:57 |
| minute | iirc it either didn't work with a zero delay or i needed some delay to see debug output | 15:58 |
| - eery (QUIT: Ping timeout: 276 seconds) (~eery@172.97.103.152) | 16:10 | |
| + jacobk (~quassel@47-186-105-237.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net) | 16:58 | |
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| + colinsane (~colinunin@97-113-95-111.tukw.qwest.net) | 17:59 | |
| * andypiper -> andypiper[afk] | 18:53 | |
| - andypiper[afk] (QUIT: Quit: My device has gone to sleep. Zzzz…) (~andypiper@138.248.189.186) | 18:53 | |
| - aloo_shu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~aloo_shu@90.166.98.247) | 19:08 | |
| + aloo_shu (~aloo_shu@90.166.98.247) | 19:19 | |
| - hairu (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (m-uotkmd@user/hairu) | 19:39 | |
| + hairu (m-uotkmd@user/hairu) | 19:41 | |
| + gustav28 (~gustav@c-bd37524e.019-141-67626730.bbcust.telenor.se) | 20:02 | |
| + mark_ (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 20:22 | |
| + erle (~erle@2a02:8109:da01:6400::430b) | 20:30 | |
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| + erle (~erle@user/erle) | 20:30 | |
| henesy | josch: it seems through my testing that stardew will successfully start for me about once every 10 minutes or so | 21:00 |
| henesy | i would quit and reopen in windows of a few minutes testing say audio and whatnot | 21:00 |
| henesy | do you have to kill waybar? it seems to mess with window sizing for some games | 21:01 |
| henesy | offsets, i mean | 21:01 |
| henesy | im going to compile a list of games that work for me, is there already a list somewhere? | 21:01 |
| Twodisbetter | on the forums there is a Reform gaming thread and a Pocket Reform gaming thread. Although honestly Thre Reform and the Pocket are basically the same, so what works on one works on another. | 21:08 |
| * mjw -> Guest4091 | 21:16 | |
| - Guest4091 (QUIT: Killed (copper.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))) (~mjw@2001:1c06:2488:1400:4fd:39a7:74ac:7bae) | 21:16 | |
| * mark_ -> mjw | 21:16 | |
| + Guest4091 (~mjw@2001:1c06:2488:1400:4fd:39a7:74ac:7bae) | 21:16 | |
| henesy | i think the main difference is the pocket reform screen is much smaller, i had some games/programs that wont squish to the screen size | 21:19 |
| Twodisbetter | the resolution is abou the same, so beyond scaling issues, the display shouldn't be a limiting factor between the two | 21:22 |
| henesy | ah my bad | 21:28 |
| josch | henesy: with those symptoms you are probably hitting this issue: https://github.com/ptitSeb/box64/issues/1398 | 21:39 |
| minute | interesting read looking at box64 on risc-v and ISA issues https://box86.org/2024/08/box64-and-risc-v-in-2024/ | 21:48 |
| minute | kind of inconvenient that the handbook build nowadays blocks so much build time before a kernel build (on reform-debian-packages) | 21:55 |
| josch | minute: might be solved soon: https://ftp-master.debian.org/new/reform-handbook_2024-08-19+dfsg-1.html | 21:55 |
| minute | ohhhh | 21:55 |
| minute | that's a good solution indeed :D | 21:56 |
| henesy | josch: ill take a peek after Work™ | 22:12 |
| - gustav28 (QUIT: Quit: Quit) (~gustav@c-bd37524e.019-141-67626730.bbcust.telenor.se) | 22:15 | |
| minute | digitalrayne: you have a IVO M125NWF4 display in your reform, right? and backlight control works? | 22:22 |
| minute | digitalrayne: for me the backlight turns off when below 100% and doesn't turn on again | 22:24 |
| minute | i have a feeling it needs a different pwm freq | 22:26 |
| minute | ah now it kinda works. but needs a different pwm curve | 22:28 |
| - jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~quassel@47-186-105-237.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net) | 22:31 | |
| + andypiper (~andypiper@45.148.12.75) | 22:53 | |
| * andypiper -> andypiper[afk] | 23:48 | |
| - andypiper[afk] (QUIT: Quit: My device has gone to sleep. Zzzz…) (~andypiper@45.148.12.75) | 23:48 | |
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