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| sevan | hmm, some time ago, I managed to break steam due to package updates, there was a dependency conflict. Since then, thing have piled up so now I'm lagg behind on things because they're not being upgraded. | 12:44 |
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| sevan | Managed to upgrade gnome-shell and there's a new button on the left hand side now & the bar is bigger along the top. progress! :) | 12:44 |
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| amospalla | Does steam work on Reforms? Not that I'll try to run it, just being curious. | 12:49 |
| sevan | amospalla: yes, it did (see the forum for how to get setup) | 12:50 |
| amospalla | thank you sevan, I might try that some day for fun :) | 12:54 |
| amospalla | If I get a rk3588 some day I'll be able to play some 2d games I like. | 12:55 |
| sevan | I'm looking forward to playing the last Monkey Island (4?) | 12:56 |
| sevan | haven't ordered anything yet though. | 12:56 |
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| minute | josch: before doing the whole deb packaging, here is the next step with firmware binary + script delivered by CI. i will test them now on my pocket https://source.mnt.re/reform/pocket-reform/-/releases/2024-08-26B#update-procedure | 14:38 |
| - mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 14:45 | |
| josch | right, looks sensible | 14:45 |
| josch | for packaging this all up as a .deb there are a few more things to bolt down like the firmware paths, script paths, script interfaces and so on | 14:45 |
| josch | for now, doing it like this makes sense so that people have an easier time charging their pocket reforms quickly :) | 14:46 |
| minute | ok cool! | 14:47 |
| josch | in the instruction, you can make this one command less to execute by replacing the last two lines by: | 14:47 |
| josch | env --chdir=scripts ./update-sysctl-firmware.sh | 14:48 |
| minute | i think that's more complicated to type in though if you're not super experienced | 14:48 |
| josch | i'd hope that everybody copypastes instead of types XD | 14:49 |
| josch | anyways, nothing of importance | 14:49 |
| minute | yeah :D | 14:52 |
| minute | ok, i've tested this twice on my personal pocket reform now | 14:52 |
| minute | the second time, it didn't reboot! | 14:52 |
| minute | (that's good) | 14:52 |
| minute | (i mean, it didn't hard shutdown) | 14:52 |
| josch | that's great, then any further updates will be much smoother :) | 14:53 |
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| sevan | Everything boils down to not being able to install libglapi-mesa:armhf because of conflicts with qt5 deps. | 15:03 |
| sevan | rambling on about my steam breakage ^^ | 15:03 |
| josch | sevan: multiarch is really tricky when you run unstable | 15:04 |
| josch | you constantly have some m-a:same version skews because something was just uploaded and didn't build on all arches yet | 15:05 |
| sevan | josch: yeah, I think it was self inflicted (broke when I installed vlc & some other things) | 15:05 |
| sevan | josch: or was it the developers fault?! (fooling around) | 15:06 |
| josch | incidentally i was about to write that i kinda enjoy not sitting on a big pile of bugs that need to be fixed in the refoorm tooling right now :) | 15:08 |
| sevan | :) | 15:11 |
| amospalla | I applied the pocket firmware, went ok. | 15:13 |
| sevan | ACTION wonders what happens if you remove libqt5gui5t64 libqt5gui5-gles | 15:18 |
| sevan | ACTION looks at long list of things no longer required & to be removed | 15:18 |
| sevan | ACTION presses y to continue | 15:19 |
| minute | amospalla: nice | 15:19 |
| amospalla | minute: not only remaining battery shows on waybar, it shows everywere now that the battery reports its remaining charge. | 15:20 |
| amospalla | like: "upower -d", "acpi", for example | 15:20 |
| minute | cool | 15:21 |
| amospalla | I wrote a script that this this weekend, based on the remaining percentage, now I don't need it anymore, but that that's ok I do these things for fun. | 15:21 |
| sevan | apt helpfully offers to uninstall most of xorg, gnome (arm64) and a bunch of other stuff if I try to install libglapi-mesa:armhf | 15:32 |
| sevan | I think that's enough gaming today | 15:33 |
| sevan | time to go and sit on a bench for a bit | 15:33 |
| josch | sevan: the reason you are experiencing is this: https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=mesa | 15:36 |
| josch | sevan: as i said, there is a multi-arch version skew right now in unstable | 15:37 |
| josch | it built everywhere except on arm674 | 15:37 |
| josch | *arm64 | 15:37 |
| josch | if you want to have multiple architectures installed via multiarch you will have a much better experience with stable or testing | 15:37 |
| josch | because all versions of all packages you are upgrading to have to be equal across all architectures | 15:38 |
| sevan | josch: thanks for the link & explanation. Based on the info in that table, I've been unlucky with timing, my system has been holding back on upgrades for some time, and in that table it states arm64 builds have been broken for 11 days. | 15:40 |
| sevan | no worries, will revisit again soon. Still going to hit the bench as today is sunny. It keeps on alternating between summer and autumn day by day here. | 15:41 |
| minute | https://mastodon.social/@hughsie/113028622558551936 | 15:47 |
| minute | cc josch | 15:47 |
| josch | minute: i know about fwupd but i'm not familiar enough with it -- somebody who is would have to contribute a way to use fwupd for the reform firmwares | 15:50 |
| josch | for starters: how would fwupd even know what firmware is installed? | 15:50 |
| josch | i cannot read my keyboard firmware version from userspace, right? | 15:51 |
| minute | good Q | 16:13 |
| minute | we could introduce that feature | 16:14 |
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| - Guest75 (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~Guest75@2600:387:f:a10::6) | 17:10 | |
| josch | minute: another question is how to reliably differentiate the lufa devices which just register as general keyboard and trackball to the os, no? | 17:40 |
| minute | josch: this can be done the same way in the usb descriptor | 17:40 |
| josch | maybe you can find somebody familiar with fwupd who can give you a list of requirements | 17:44 |
| josch | but i'm not that person :) | 17:44 |
| josch | though it would be cool to re-use fwupd for this task instead of cooking up our own scripts again... | 17:44 |
| minute | josch: richard hughes there is afaik the maintainer of fwupd? | 17:45 |
| josch | oh perfect! | 17:46 |
| josch | ah and there is the gold response on fedi :) | 17:48 |
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| minute | now i just need the energy from somewhere to deal with this additional project | 18:02 |
| josch | ACTION raises hands to send some energy | 18:18 |
| minute | thx thx | 18:19 |
| minute | or maybe someone here wants to volunteer working on usb descriptors for sysctl and keyboard? | 18:20 |
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| mrbcmorris | I'm a higher level guy normally but I'm down to learn new skills and help out if there's anyone available to give me pointers | 19:06 |
| mrbcmorris | Hoping my pocket ships this week! | 19:06 |
| mrbcmorris | crowsupply estimates shipping on Saturday | 19:13 |
| minute | mrbcmorris: order date? | 19:14 |
| mrbcmorris | 8/19 | 19:14 |
| ^alex | minute, we're hacking on the syscon, can probably make up a USB desc for it. the keyb already has one. | 19:28 |
| minute | ^alex: neat. richard wrote "using the bcdREV as the version number". could we do that? | 19:31 |
| ^alex | prrrrrobably | 19:35 |
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| shdw | are there any plans for a transparent bottom plate for the reform next, like the original reform has? | 20:01 |
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| minute | shdw: nope | 20:06 |
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| andypiper | fwiw I posted about the Pocket again today. https://andypiper.co.uk/2024/08/26/mnt-pocket-reform-a-literal-field-test/ | 20:16 |
| minute | andypiper: awesome! | 20:36 |
| minute | andypiper: about brightness slider, i have something cooking https://git.sr.ht/~minute/reform-waypanel/tree | 20:36 |
| andypiper | nice. I have something else cooking (hw / macropad). | 20:37 |
| minute | andypiper: not sure if you're aware you can hold hyper+super+1/2 to change brightness? | 20:37 |
| andypiper | I am *forever* cat'ing .config/sway/config to remind myself of keybinds! Thanks! That one is listed as XF86Brightness controls in there I think (for me right now). Appreciate the tip there though. | 20:38 |
| andypiper | I just need to spend more time with it to get the shortcuts deeper into my head. | 20:38 |
| minute | yeah, this one is a bit unintuitive also | 20:39 |
| andypiper | btw the cpufetch dev merged the support for the NXP chip. I'm going to help him with the A311D as well - he thinks it already covers the RK3588. https://github.com/Dr-Noob/cpufetch/issues/261 | 20:39 |
| andypiper | basically I have a little-used Adafruit Macropad that has a spare qwiic port, and also a qwiic slider, and I plan to print a case for this to match the Hyper Purple (sort of) and have a little companion for my machine. More to come on this. | 20:41 |
| andypiper | nice work on the system controller update, thank you all! | 20:41 |
| minute | ohh that sounds really nifty | 20:45 |
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| mrbcmorris | mnt logo ascii looks slick andypiper | 21:07 |
| andypiper | that is from mnt tools script already, I cannot take credit | 21:08 |
| andypiper | just borrowed into my little alias for fastfetch | 21:08 |
| andypiper | (I mean it is a great logo) | 21:08 |
| minute | first video of openrgb on the pocket reform https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/113029896345069946 | 21:10 |
| mrbcmorris | Posts have been fun to read, thanks for sharing andy | 21:10 |
| mrbcmorris | rgb terrifies me, though I believe I might want to write an app that makes my keyboard flash red if any of my builds break | 21:12 |
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| andypiper | ok so openrgb... | 21:33 |
| andypiper | @minute do I need to do anything to the keyboard firmware for those artifacts to work, or just grab and run them and they talk to the controller already? | 21:37 |
| minute | andypiper: the keeb fw doesn't need changing | 21:37 |
| andypiper | nice! | 21:37 |
| minute | andypiper: but you need to install that udev rules file and reboot (or reload udev somehow) | 21:37 |
| minute | it gives non root openrgb the permission to talk to the kb | 21:38 |
| minute | and the effects plugin is a .so file that can be installed in the openrgb gui under plugins | 21:39 |
| andypiper | you do however need to install libhidapi-hidraw0 which is not present by default | 21:45 |
| andypiper | :-) | 21:45 |
| andypiper | and qtwayland5 will avoid a warning when running openrgb UI | 21:49 |
| andypiper | hmm my qt app is not in dark mode, that's something to figure out. | 21:50 |
| andypiper | oh this is so cool with the RGB effects. Nice work. Ship it! :-) | 21:52 |
| minute | ahh nice, thanks for testing!! | 21:53 |
| andypiper | I think the only thing I'm not loving is the light UI, will look into that. But yeah it works nicely (running iMX8MP for today) | 21:54 |
| andypiper | Installed udev rules and restarted udev; installed libhidapi-hidraw0 and qtwayland5 for good measure; started openrgb; loaded the effects plugin; off to the races. | 21:55 |
| andypiper | for dark mode: apt install qt5-style-plugins; QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE=gtk2 openrgb | 22:04 |
| andypiper | well, it's dark but not finding adwaita so not completely matching. | 22:05 |
| andypiper | oh wait, theme is a setting. OK. | 22:11 |
| andypiper | ignore everything I said about dark mode, it's in the OpenRGB settings. Now I have a thematically pleasing version. | 22:12 |
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