| andypiper | FWIW the developer of the cpufetch tool is in the process of adding support for the iMX8MP - I just tested his patched branch and it looks good. https://github.com/Dr-Noob/cpufetch/issues/261 | 00:01 |
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| josch | hah, i wish it were easier to distingish these cpus from each other by their lscpu or /proc/cpuinfo output... | 00:53 |
| josch | here is how i detect a311d: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/blob/main/emulate.sh?ref_type=heads#L64 | 00:53 |
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| minute | hmm normally proc/devicetree should have cpu nodes in it, or no | 01:33 |
| josch | how would you use that information to determine it's an amlogic a311d? | 01:34 |
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| Twodisbetter | Is it possible to boost power to the wifi on the Pocket to improve wifi reception? I know there were some heat related concerns that might be pushing directly against that idea but I am just curious. | 15:41 |
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| Twodisbetter | minute: Is it possible to order a rk3588 by itself for the Pocket or currently only as an option with a Pocket order? | 15:43 |
| grimmware | Twodisbetter: they’ve just released the upgrade bundles on the store | 15:44 |
| grimmware | Including rk3588 | 15:44 |
| Twodisbetter | right, I see a 3 month delay on the rk by itself and a 2 month on pocket orders | 15:45 |
| Twodisbetter | I'm super keen on the rk so I'll be getting one of those for sure. | 15:45 |
| Twodisbetter | I am curious if we have any hope for suspend on it though? | 15:46 |
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| Twodisbetter | amospallo made a great low power state script that works quiet well on the imx version. We could probably adapt it to work with the RK, which would be a good interim to suspend. | 15:56 |
| Twodisbetter | minute: another reason I am asking about ordering the rk for the pocket seperately is that I see that a heatsink is mentioned for the big Reform, and I wanted to know if this meant that a solution would be included for the pocket as well. | 15:58 |
| Twodisbetter | minute: I don | 16:00 |
| Twodisbetter | minute: I don't see any mention on built in wifi or bluetooth. | 16:00 |
| Twodisbetter | perhaps that is something which could be added to the store page | 16:01 |
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| minute | Twodisbetter: i don't know anything about the state of suspend on rk3588. i would currently not get my hopes up. hibernate would be worth a shot though | 17:39 |
| minute | Twodisbetter: the pocket upgrade bundle shop page says: > RK3588 doesn't include any Wi-Fi out of the box. We recommend selecting the optional AsiaRF M27612-BU3 Wi-Fi module for 802.11ac connectivity (Mediatek MT7612U chipset with good Linux support). | 17:40 |
| minute | i have another wifi/bt solution for rk3588 in the works but it will take a while. once that is done, it will free up the wwan slot. | 17:40 |
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| kop316 | minute i preordered the rk3588 when itnforst came and i dont think i had the option for wifi...is there a way i can add it on to the order? | 18:44 |
| ch | same question here. also are the modules on the upgrade bundle page different from the cpu-module-only page? | 18:45 |
| Twodisbetter | minute: on the pocket do we have the free slot if we are using an NVME already? I too would like a bundle option for the wifi you are suggesting. I can't wait for the RK to meet my Pocket. | 19:05 |
| Twodisbetter | BTW, typing all of this from the pocket. Making good progress on being efficient with the keyboard and touch typing. | 19:05 |
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| Twodisbetter | minute: also hibernation would be preferred with me as well. Fingers crossed we can get it working! | 19:50 |
| minute | kop316: ch: did you order it as an upgrade for reform or pocket reform? | 19:53 |
| minute | Twodisbetter: yes, there is an M.2 slot for NVMe and an M.2 slot for WWAN/WLAN | 19:54 |
| Twodisbetter | minute: ok I'll order one tomorrow. Would like to get the wifi card as well. Does the one you suggested also have BT on it? | 19:55 |
| minute | in reform, you have an mPCIe slot that can take any pcie based wifi card | 19:55 |
| minute | Twodisbetter: no, no bt unfortunately. that'll have to wait for the aforementioned solution | 19:55 |
| Twodisbetter | minute: ok. I 'm accustomed to it with the Reform so I'll be fine. I will keep an eye out for the solution on the horizon. | 19:56 |
| ch | minute: i ordered it when only this page existed: https://shop.mntre.com/products/mnt-reform-rcore-rk3588-processor-module - admittedly that was possibly stupid | 19:57 |
| kop316 | minute: minute i just ordered it as a stand alone module | 19:57 |
| kop316 | I dont think there was an option to order it as an upgrade at the time | 19:58 |
| minute | ch: kop316: if these are intended to use for pocket reform only, then you can mail support@mntre.com and have the order changed to the pocket upgrade bundle | 20:02 |
| minute | ch: kop316: the pocket upgrade bundle does not include the milled copper heatsink that is needed for reform, for example | 20:02 |
| kop316 | minute: ok! yep it was | 20:02 |
| kop316 | yes it was meant for the pocket reform | 20:02 |
| minute | ok, no problem to change it then! | 20:02 |
| ch | thanks. will email! | 20:03 |
| kop316 | Just emailled support. Thanks for the help! | 20:05 |
| Twodisbetter | minute: do you use the pocket a lot? Are you getting pretty proficient with the keyboard as well? | 20:07 |
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| minute | Twodisbetter: yes, i'm typing pretty quickly on it | 20:16 |
| minute | practice helps a lot :D | 20:17 |
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| Twodisbetter | indeed. I just saw a jump in my own use of it. Messing around with word processors seemed to help a lot. | 20:17 |
| Twodisbetter | My Reform is jealous of all the time the pocket is getting. I just gel really well with the pocket. | 20:18 |
| ^alex | our brain: port the syscon firmware to FreeRTOS or something! | 20:18 |
| ^alex | (seriously, thinking about doing this and also building in deep-sleep mode _en passant_) | 20:19 |
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| ^alex | (this would effectively mandate busting up the syscon firmware into separate modules, etc) | 20:20 |
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| Twodisbetter | minute: have you, perhaps, tried running Steam on the RK3588? I'm kind of thinking that it would run a lot of indie games quite well. Luftrauser, Downwell, and maybe even Nuclear Throne. Those 3 would be so awesome to have on the Pocket. Those are the games I mainly play. hahaha. | 21:03 |
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| amospalla | is hibernation a choice nowadays with pocket? | 21:38 |
| amospalla | I've got a solid state disk unused laying somewhere. | 21:38 |
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| Twodisbetter | amospalla: I really hope we can get hibernation working on the pocket. Either with the default or the RK3588. | 22:16 |
| Twodisbetter | To me hibernation is the answer. It is the best possible power savings and also allows for a complete quick step back into your workflow. | 22:16 |
| amospalla | I am a fan of suspension, but hibernation is good enough if the former is not available. | 22:16 |
| ^alex | presently the syscon and keyboard will drain the battery after a few days of the SoC being off | 22:17 |
| ^alex | we're chewing on how to fix that | 22:17 |
| amospalla | thank you | 22:17 |
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| minute | Twodisbetter: i haven't been running steam but rather GOG games directly. i've recently played shadowrun: hong kong, and dhewm3 | 23:02 |
| Twodisbetter | minute: GOG is great. I should try running Luftrauser that way as well. | 23:03 |
| Twodisbetter | Steam is just nice because it does all of that for you. | 23:04 |
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