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| ^alex | putting `sleep_ms(10)` in the keyboard firmware makes it misregister things, rip. i wonder how workable it would be to offload the key scanning to a PIO | 01:25 |
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| reform22943 | new pocket sdcard image worked great and got encrypted nvme setup! | 02:28 |
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| ^alex | keyscanning with PIO seems actually pretty feasible! hmm! | 02:37 |
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| kop316 | so i thinkk i found an error in the pocket reform user guide. it says for brightness use "hyper+f1", but thats an impossible combo since hyper+1 is f1. I think you meant "super+f1", as that works for me (hyper+super+1) | 02:41 |
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| mundane-1emantic | popping in for another pocket observation. `upower` gives a result for battery percentage that matches the oled, but right now waybar always shows 100% at the top of the screen. | 03:45 |
| mundane-1emantic | Not too worried right now since my regular daily driver laptop is a sway configuration where i dont have battery percentage displayed, and i have a habit of just running `upower` every so often to check | 03:45 |
| kop316 | mundane-1emantic: https://community.mnt.re/t/after-apt-upgrade-today-battery-in-waybar-stuck-at-100/2299/20 | 03:47 |
| kop316 | fyi | 03:47 |
| mundane-1emantic | kop316: thank you! | 04:12 |
| kop316 | mundane-1emantic: happy to help! | 04:13 |
| mundane-1emantic | also funny that its not updating firmware automatically via apt -- ubuntu has taken the opposite approach and IIRC apt updates can upgrade the firmware/microcode on your cpu (in order to patch vulnerabilities/issues) | 04:14 |
| mundane-1emantic | to be clear i like the "manually update firmware" since i like hacking and tinkering on these things, mostly just sharing the ubuntu bit since it surprised me earlier this year | 04:14 |
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| chartreuse | Hmm don't have time tonight to fix it but having an issue with the 6.10.3 kernel package on imx8mq. | 05:33 |
| chartreuse | make -j4 KERNELRELEASE=6.10.3-mnt-reform-arm64 -C /lib/modules/6.10.3-mnt-reform-arm64/build M=/var/lib/dkms/xtrx/0.0.1+git20190320.5ae3a3e-3.5/build | 05:33 |
| chartreuse | Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 6.10.3-mnt-reform-arm64 (aarch64) | 05:33 |
| chartreuse | Consult /var/lib/dkms/xtrx/0.0.1+git20190320.5ae3a3e-3.5/build/make.log for more information. | 05:33 |
| chartreuse | Seems like maybe a missing header or such in that xtrx module: make -j4 KERNELRELEASE=6.10.3-mnt-reform-arm64 -C /lib/modules/6.10.3-mnt-reform-arm64/build M=/var/lib/dkms/xtrx/0.0.1+git20190320.5ae3a3e-3.5/build | 05:34 |
| chartreuse | Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 6.10.3-mnt-reform-arm64 (aarch64) | 05:34 |
| chartreuse | Ooops | 05:34 |
| chartreuse | /var/lib/dkms/xtrx/0.0.1+git20190320.5ae3a3e-3.5/build/xtrx.c:472:28: error: ‘struct uart_state’ has no member named ‘xmit' | 05:34 |
| chartreuse | I'll look into this tomorrow night some more, might be a header change or something with that dkms module | 05:35 |
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| josch | mundane-1emantic: you found a solution for your reform system image problem from yesterday? | 06:07 |
| josch | chartreuse: don't you also have the big reform with imx8mq? :) would you be willing to try out the reform-hw-setup set -e thing for me on your unit? :D | 06:12 |
| josch | aha! mystery solved! pocket reform u-boot prints: | 06:49 |
| josch | U-Boot SPL 2022.04-gb0e908b1-dirty | 06:49 |
| josch | that git commit is from here: https://github.com/boundarydevices/u-boot/commit/b0e908b1ecbd5762e6cbab30c4c43debd273886e | 06:50 |
| mundane-1emantic | josch: yes i saw you pushed new sdcard images | 06:52 |
| mundane-1emantic | whatever happened, i re-downloaded an sdcard image and this time everything worked smoothly | 06:53 |
| josch | mundane-1emantic: there was a bug in the earlier images, full explanation here: | 06:53 |
| josch | https://community.mnt.re/t/debugging-boot-failures/2375/8 | 06:54 |
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| josch | minute: could you enable the CI for my fork of reform/reform-imx8mp-uboot for the purpose of https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-imx8mp-uboot/-/merge_requests/1? | 07:03 |
| josch | minute: instead of relying on https://github.com/boundarydevices/u-boot to exist it might also be smart to have a local clone of the correct branch of that repo on source.mnt.re just in case anything happens to the github repo | 07:04 |
| josch | that MR also makes sure to only grap the known good git commit and not arbitrary code from HEAD | 07:04 |
| josch | nice, ./include/configs/rk3588_common.h already respects CONFIG_DEFAULT_FDT_FILE | 07:10 |
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| amospalla | On Pocket, should I expect the backlight to be always under /sys/class/backlight/32e60000.dsi.0 folder? Or that could change? | 14:45 |
| amospalla | Setting backlight to zero makes the screen not showing anything, would this equal to shuting down the display in terms of power consumption? | 14:46 |
| sigrid | I'd think it would be equal to just the backlight being off | 14:58 |
| sigrid | fwiw when I tried turning off backlight completely on 9front, I could still see very faint image on the lcd | 14:59 |
| amospalla | sigrid: just checked, on pocket, I can't see anything into a dark room. Thank you :) | 15:01 |
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| josch | amospalla: on the big reform, with backlight to zero, you need a strong light source to see the content of the tft not a dark room | 15:41 |
| josch | because the image is still there -- just the light from behind it is gone | 15:41 |
| amospalla | oh thank you josch, then it is still consuming power, I need another way | 15:43 |
| josch | amospalla: what is the problem with using "swaymsg output DSI-1 disable"? | 15:48 |
| josch | amospalla: or this: "swaymsg output DSI-1 dpms off" | 15:50 |
| amospalla | josch: I want to shut down the display while not being on the computer console, say a root ssh or cron job. | 15:52 |
| josch | amospalla: the commands i pasted do not have the desired effect? | 15:52 |
| amospalla | josch: as I am not running as the user, neither on executing the command on a console session, I was trying to avoid sudoing and setting environment variables, but as last resort I can try that yeah. | 15:55 |
| amospalla | Also, the script tries to be generic, I should not assume a specific user with a sway session. | 15:55 |
| josch | ah okay, i see | 15:56 |
| amospalla | I'm trying to do a pseudo-suspend on Pocket, where it does not really suspend, but shut down or freeze almost everything. | 15:57 |
| amospalla | And root is who is executing all that behind the scenes. | 15:57 |
| amospalla | I'll measure how much current it consumes with setting brightness to zero. If that is good enough I'll just use that, if not I'll do the sudo set environment kill user swayidle dance. | 15:58 |
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| amospalla | oh yes, I'm sending a signal, it just works :D thanks again. | 17:42 |
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| NanoCodeBug | so! i'm back to working on getting the raspi-CM4 on the pocket - and i've hit an interesting snag. | 18:23 |
| NanoCodeBug | i'm using default rasbian at the moment, so the bootloader sees the sd-card, loads the config and kernel, but the kernel than fails to see the sd card | 18:24 |
| NanoCodeBug | works fine in the cm4-io-board. | 18:25 |
| NanoCodeBug | now this isn't an immediate blocker - i can do usb boot, or switch to a cm4 with onboard emmc. but its a curious failure condtion, if anyone has any ideas, i would love to hear them. | 18:25 |
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| minute | reform next prototype pix https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/112961570385827773 | 19:45 |
| NanoCodeBug | with the raspi-cm4 i have the pocket-panel display coming up, the usb devices show up - keyboard, trackball, wifi, but no audio yet | 19:51 |
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| sevan | just to follow on, though I plowed through with updates after the kernel was yanked from the webserver, I ended up with a system where the lpc driver wouldn't load. Only noticed when I opened my browser :) | 20:42 |
| sevan | no battery status, no wifi | 20:42 |
| sevan | ethernet was ok though, by that point the kernel had been published again, so after it did its dkms dance for lpc & zfs I had a working system again. | 20:43 |
| sevan | erm, so no plowing I guess | 20:44 |
| ^alex | we caught the kernel when it couldn't load the wifi module, got around that by forceloading and holding our breath >.> | 20:44 |
| sevan | for 2 days! | 20:45 |
| sevan | now there's a radiohead video I'd watch | 20:45 |
| ^alex | yeah, we held our breath until we turned blue in the tooth ;) | 20:45 |
| sevan | Radiohead - No surprises! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5CVsCnxyXg | 20:48 |
| sevan | Sevan - No Radiohead! | 20:49 |
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| sevan | josch: is it worth recommending the firmware-misc-nonfree application in reform-check utility or is just the firmware-mediatek package sufficent? former pulls in intel & nvidia graphics firmware + intel-misc | 21:06 |
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| jfred | amospalla: I would be curious to hear how much power it draws when you do that. Ubuntu Touch does something similar, it makes heavy use of SIGSTOP to pause things that aren't actively needed | 21:45 |
| amospalla | jfred: do you mean about cgroup freeze? | 21:45 |
| amospalla | or the display? | 21:45 |
| jfred | both I guess haha | 21:45 |
| jfred | oh though re: Ubuntu Touch it does the first one, it does typically power off the display on devices it runs on | 21:46 |
| jfred | not just turning off the backlight | 21:47 |
| amospalla | Regarding the display, I do use swayidle if the session on the console is a sway one, and setterm if it is a terminal one, so the screen blanks, and it shows like 70-90mA I would say. | 21:47 |
| amospalla | For the cgroups session freeze, all the processes freeze, they completely stop, no killed, not unloaded, just stop using cpu. If you do freeze the graphical user session, even the mouse doesn't move, it just freezes and stops consuming ANY mA. | 21:48 |
| amospalla | Only keep consuming the memory they have assigned, nothing else. | 21:48 |
| amospalla | I uploaded a script for the Pocket on the forums a couple of hours ago, it does it all. | 21:49 |
| amospalla | It can be easily adapted to non-pocket, I am tidying the script a bit right now. | 21:50 |
| amospalla | When everything is stopped/frozen, pocket goes down to ~470mA power draw. | 21:50 |
| amospalla | It is not a suspend, but if you plan on not using it for some minutes it is free to pseudo-suspend it like this, and you save some minutes of battery each time you do. | 21:51 |
| jfred | hmm, I wonder what's drawing the most power in that pseudo-suspend mode | 21:52 |
| amospalla | Me too, feel free to suggest anything that you may find. | 21:55 |
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