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josch | minute: okay. If it's bad we can change that later. I just commented the patch command out and added a FIXME comment on top for now. | 01:47 |
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josch | minute: then i'll cut a new release, test it on my a311d and then add it to reform-tools | 01:48 |
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josch | reform-tools 1.46 is in the repos now | 04:34 |
josch | it's the largest list of changelog entries so far | 04:34 |
josch | so there will probably be bugs | 04:34 |
josch | i already have changes for 1.47 queued locally, so please report any bugs you find to me so that i can add them to the next upload, thanks! :) | 04:35 |
jfred | hm, my big reform has started shutting itself down after being unplugged for just a few minutes, and then the OLED shows 0% charge. maybe one of the cells is shot... | 05:10 |
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^alex | trying a patch out that switches off core 1 in the keyboard and in the syscon | 06:35 |
^alex | seeing how that affects overnight power drain | 06:35 |
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khm | I'm trying to build u-boot from the reform-boundary-uboot repository. I'm following the .gitlab-ci to build. I edit mntreform-config, copy it to .config, and when during build.sh the 'make flash.bin' command overwrites .config with different contents. I don't see the cp command being executed in the gitlab job traces. Is there something I'm missing here? | 06:49 |
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josch | khm: can you pastebin your git diff so that i can have a look at what is going on? | 07:32 |
josch | (it works fine over here) | 07:32 |
khm | josch: https://pastebin.com/bESqcmgq | 07:46 |
khm | (the makefile changes are to shut up errors in gcc on unstable) | 07:47 |
khm | and here's the actual build output https://pastebin.com/DyNq187Y (lines 21 through 24 are what I'm complaining about here) | 07:50 |
josch | khm: likely the issue is, that you are adding items to the config which are from modern u-boot but the boundary fork is ancient | 08:06 |
josch | khm: for nvme support on imx8mq, i think bluerise came closest by working on imx8mq support on upstream u-boot | 08:07 |
khm | the nvme and cmd_nvme code is there | 08:07 |
josch | i think this is the branch: https://github.com/bluerise/u-boot/commits/mnt | 08:07 |
khm | however, even setting that aside, CONFIG_CMD_BOOTMENU=y should work. | 08:08 |
josch | right, what i'm trying to say is that it's probably smarter to invest energy into upstream u-boot instead of into the ancient vendor fork | 08:08 |
khm | that's extremely unlikely to happen. there's about a billion ridiculous questions coming out of `make oldconfig` for that, approximately none of which I have any chance of answering correctly | 08:13 |
josch | khm: me neither but there are other people in this channel (like bluerise who might be able to help you) | 08:18 |
josch | khm: another curiosity is that according to menuconfig, "NVM Express device support" should be listed under "Device Drivers" -- but it is not | 08:19 |
khm | yeah I was told some time ago that the nvme code present in this version is more of a first draft than a fully-functioning tool | 08:21 |
khm | I only tried to turn it on when I realized my BOOTMENU flag wasn't changing | 08:22 |
khm | I was hoping for a broken build that at least followed the config, instead of just clobbering it | 08:22 |
josch | khm: my theory is, that somehow the options you added conflict with other stuff and thus the config gets regenerated. If I change other options in mntreform-config, then copy it to .config and then run ./build.sh, both files remain identical even though "scripts/kconfig/conf --syncconfig Kconfig" gets run | 08:26 |
khm | ok, thanks for testing. I'll figure out how to instrument kconfig to see what's going on there. | 08:27 |
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grimmware | anyone know the name of the antenna connector on the imx8mp module? I bought an external antenna kit but apparently it came with the wrong kind of connector (I thought it was just U.FL but I may have been naive of variants | 13:14 |
grimmware | ) | 13:14 |
minute | grimmware: the connector is MHF-1 | 13:19 |
grimmware | ah cool I just assumed the wrong thing then heh | 13:19 |
grimmware | I got a higher gain antenna that I want to try out | 13:19 |
grimmware | oh that is the same as U.FL. What the fuck did I buy then? | 13:22 |
minute | mhf4 is the tiny one and mhf1+ufl are the big ones | 13:24 |
minute | iirc the wwan module uses mhf4 | 13:24 |
grimmware | ah I've got the 4 | 13:24 |
grimmware | further proof that I only ever learn the hard way | 13:25 |
minute | i've made that mistake _a lot_ because i always can't remember | 13:25 |
josch | <= same | 13:27 |
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josch | minute: i have collected a list of five TODO items for you to carry out on source.mnt.re -- ping me whenever you think you might have some time. I will keep collecting until then. You just said that you are deep in the middle of other stuff and i know your todo list is long as usual. :) | 14:00 |
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josch | anybody upgraded to reform-tools 1.46 and found more bugs? I'm about to do the next upload and maybe i can fix a few more things? | 14:31 |
minute | josch: thank you for the list! | 14:56 |
minute | josch: do you have a link to the list? i would like to put it in my todo :D | 14:57 |
josch | minute: thank you! https://paste.debian.net/1325118/ | 15:00 |
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bkeys | So it looks like the best path to get Fedora/CentOS Stream on the Reform is to get the rk3588 adapter board | 15:30 |
minute | bkeys: i was able to boot into the fedora graphical installer using edk2, yes | 15:58 |
bkeys | That is awesome! | 15:59 |
bkeys | How much longer do you envision it being until you start shipping them out? | 16:00 |
minute | bkeys: so the final confirmation pcb should arrive tomorrow, i will test it over the weekend and pull the trigger on manufacturing on monday if all goes well | 16:03 |
bkeys | That sounds great | 16:03 |
minute | the processors, heatsinks, hdmi adapters are already in stock | 16:03 |
bkeys | Hopefully I get a job soon, within the hour I get one I will get one | 16:04 |
bkeys | It seems really nice, especially with so many community projects centering on the rk3588 | 16:04 |
bkeys | And the really good software support | 16:04 |
grimmware | minute: have you tested it with the pocket yet? | 16:17 |
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bluerise | josch, khm: yeah I had written my own pcie driver for the imx8mq | 16:44 |
bluerise | but now they added support for I think the i.MX8MM | 16:44 |
bluerise | now there's https://source.denx.de/u-boot/u-boot/-/blob/master/drivers/pci/pcie_dw_imx.c | 16:45 |
minute | grimmware: nope, still on my list | 16:45 |
bluerise | but that's only MM and MP, so MQ support will have to be added | 16:45 |
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midfavila | has anyone ever tinkered with alternative display formfactors in their reforms? | 18:13 |
midfavila | i would love to mod in a 4:3 1600x1200 panel like https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/12-1-inch-LCD-screen-LB121S03_1601026750955.html | 18:13 |
midfavila | as long as it's got an eDP driver board and can run off the existing power delivery system it should "just work", right? stupid question, i know, but i've never really done any big hardware mods before | 18:14 |
midfavila | (this one is 800x600 but the principle would be the same...) | 18:14 |
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midfavila | once it's available i would love to try my hand at sticking one of these: https://www.crowdsupply.com/modos-tech/modos-paper-monitor in the reform as well | 18:39 |
minute | midfavila: if you're using a module with hdmi->edp adapter things are quite plug and play. for mipi->edp there's some work involved | 18:41 |
midfavila | that's fair. what kind of work would be required, do you think? | 18:42 |
midfavila | if it's not going to require designing a custom pcb or something like that i would be more than willing to take a crack at it | 18:42 |
midfavila | i wouldn't mind making a pcb, i just don't have that skill :p | 18:42 |
minute | midfavila: ah also you'll need to get a custom cable in case it's not the same ipex connector on the edp panel | 18:59 |
minute | midfavila: and for mipi, you might need to set custom panel timings and dsi clocks etc in the driver/device tree | 19:00 |
midfavila | gotcha | 19:00 |
midfavila | that seems doable | 19:00 |
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midfavila | the ultimate goal would be like, a display like that and maybe cramming a reproduction F62 compact from modelfkeyboards.com in a customized chassis | 19:11 |
midfavila | because why not | 19:11 |
abortretryfail | holy crap an epaper display would be so nice. | 19:17 |
^alex | we are somewhat a fan of that one OLPC display that becomes a greyscale panel in the sunlight | 19:19 |
^alex | also an unbrick of the keyboard seems to require holding down PROG while throwing the standby switch :X | 19:19 |
^alex | so we are probably going to try and get the picotool reboot device compiled into the keyboard firmware | 19:20 |
^alex | or the double-tap-reset code | 19:21 |
^alex | or, potentially, both! | 19:21 |
minute | josch: btw i've started working on https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-rk3588-uboot, my goal is to have a real system image for rk3588 asap (actually 2, for reform and reform next, and later also for pocket (aaaaah!)) | 19:27 |
josch | nice! \o/ i think (and hope) that u-boot was the last blocker for a rk3588 system image | 19:43 |
josch | ping me once there is a gitlab CI artifact which boots your machine and then we can put it into reform-tools which can be built by reform-debian-packages which will fill the repo and make it possible to also run reform-system-images for it -- yay | 19:48 |
grimmware | Heads up I had one of the broken-off ends of the battery holder rattling around inside the case. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/PsBE7hf4/1722534917.JPG | 19:56 |
midfavila | ^alex the transflectives are great yeah | 19:58 |
midfavila | i think uhhhhh that one company that makes e-ink monitors also makes transflectives | 19:58 |
midfavila | but yeah if nothing else i would love to integrate the modos controller into the reform. they claim to support a ton of different e-paper panels and there's an hdmi input so | 20:01 |
midfavila | can use that for testing if nothing else | 20:01 |
midfavila | if i can get a little experience working with e-paper panels i would love to put one in my uconsole when it arrives as well | 20:01 |
khm | the olpc panel wasn't normal transflective. it was two layers of lcd: a 1200x900 monochrome layer under a diagonal-RGB color display | 20:21 |
khm | in the sunlight the color layer just got overwhelmed and washed out, leaving a normal reflective monochrome image | 20:21 |
midfavila | oh huh | 20:40 |
midfavila | fair enough, i didn't know that | 20:40 |
khm | its creator tried to commercialize it under the trade name Pixel Qi but it never really took off | 20:43 |
grimmware | I always found that totally bizarre that those displays didn't get more traction | 20:45 |
abortretryfail | you couldn't really buy them anywhere. I tried. | 20:45 |
grimmware | feels like the market was trying to enforce the trope that nerds like to stay inside | 20:46 |
grimmware | I'd love to do more outdoor computing | 20:46 |
grimmware | I've been particularly pleased with the pocket's screen when using it outside but I do feel like the approach of making the screen brighter is not the optimal one | 20:47 |
khm | I have several of them in various OLPC laptops | 20:49 |
khm | and they briefly sold a kit to modify a Lenovo S10 netbook. and man do I mean *briefly* | 20:49 |
khm | I only know one person who was able to get one | 20:49 |
midfavila | rip | 20:51 |
midfavila | that's sort of why i'm getting into open hardware as much as possible now | 20:51 |
midfavila | the whole "seeing something cool you want only to learn you can't buy it any more" thing sucks | 20:51 |
mhoye | khm: 3M bought all the Pixel Qi ip. From what I can tell you can still buy one today, if your intention is to fit it into the console of a fighter jet. | 21:04 |
midfavila | lame | 21:06 |
mhoye | I had a chance to play with them on the OLPC | 21:06 |
mhoye | those displays were _magic_ | 21:07 |
mhoye | just absolutely incredible, and totally wasted on that garbage machine. | 21:07 |
khm | I know 3M invested in the Pixel Qi startup but last I heard Mary Lou still owns the IP | 21:07 |
khm | the OLPC XO-4 was a pretty good machine (switched to ARM, dropped the weird hybrid touchpad) | 21:08 |
mhoye | A few weeks ago I went to see if I could convince Sharp to make their 1-bit memory displays bigger than 3" but alas. | 21:09 |
mhoye | (Those are the displays that the PlayDate uses, also excellent for both daylight readability and power consumption) | 21:10 |
mhoye | Unfortunately they have no plans for that. | 21:10 |
midfavila | oofh | 21:11 |
mhoye | "large daylight-readable displays" is apparently a weird niche market. | 21:11 |
khm | just gotta wait for some patents to expire | 21:11 |
midfavila | >patents | 21:11 |
midfavila | >expire | 21:11 |
midfavila | lmao rn | 21:11 |
midfavila | theyre just going to make minor adjustments and repatent it again ad infinitum | 21:12 |
mhoye | Those "daylight.computer" people seem to have something new? But they're trying to productize it first and I guess maybe eventually sell it later. | 21:12 |
midfavila | epaper is from like the 70s or 80s or something | 21:12 |
khm | daylight.computer, aka "rebranded android device #45,302" | 21:13 |
mhoye | khm: yeah. It _looks_ like they've got new-for-real display tech in there despite the 'yeah but otherwise this is just a crap android tablet with a new skin' thing. | 21:17 |
midfavila | just looked it up | 21:18 |
midfavila | looks like junk t b q h | 21:18 |
mhoye | But if a crap android table is the only way people can get their new thing then oh well anyway dot gif. | 21:18 |
midfavila | any time i see a company lead with granola rhetoric about "deep focus" i pretty much just write them off | 21:19 |
midfavila | same vibes as mudita stuff | 21:19 |
khm | I just go look at their privacy policy | 21:20 |
mhoye | Mudita? | 21:20 |
khm | daylight's is pretty bad | 21:20 |
midfavila | mudita is this like | 21:20 |
midfavila | i think theyre swiss? can't recall | 21:20 |
midfavila | they're like some boutique lifestyle tech company | 21:20 |
mhoye | ugh | 21:20 |
midfavila | to be clear their phone is like | 21:20 |
midfavila | conceptually good | 21:20 |
midfavila | the mudita pure | 21:20 |
khm | mudita is a grift designed to extract money by exploiting people's fears of technology | 21:21 |
khm | they advertised their first cell phone as being a low-EM device | 21:21 |
midfavila | but in terms of their implementation it just sucks | 21:21 |
midfavila | also that | 21:21 |
mhoye | oh no | 21:21 |
khm | guess what happens when you restrict electromagnetic emssions of a radio communications device | 21:21 |
midfavila | no signal ;p | 21:21 |
midfavila | common issue | 21:21 |
midfavila | just make it an epaper dumbphone and you'd be fine | 21:22 |
midfavila | but it has to have all this stupid shit | 21:22 |
midfavila | like "meditation timers" | 21:22 |
khm | they did one or two batches of that idiocy, then started selling clocks and wristwatches, and are now working on indistinguishable android device #45,304 | 21:22 |
midfavila | bro just make a clock app | 21:22 |
midfavila | with a stopwatch function | 21:22 |
midfavila | not everything has to be about promoting "digital mindfulness" | 21:22 |
midfavila | they also dont have any way to access internetworking features in-OS afaik | 21:23 |
midfavila | its like a claimed feature | 21:23 |
khm | I left out the part where their e-ink alarm clock requires a cloud connection and frequently breaks | 21:23 |
midfavila | i can respect not including a browser, but like, why cant i check my email, or get a map or something | 21:23 |
midfavila | or have an IM client | 21:24 |
midfavila | etc | 21:24 |
midfavila | as much as i don't really dig clockworkpi's marketing strategy either at least the uconsole is like | 21:25 |
midfavila | useful | 21:25 |
khm | that reminds me, I need to put some stuff on ebay | 21:25 |
midfavila | owo? | 21:25 |
khm | uconsole, devterm, pinebook pro, probably the pine note | 21:25 |
khm | all the various corpses of failed mobile devices | 21:26 |
midfavila | you're selling the uconsole and pinenote? how come? | 21:26 |
khm | mostly because they're awful | 21:26 |
mhoye | The pine people are... not to be trusted. | 21:26 |
midfavila | what makes you say that? legit question | 21:26 |
midfavila | on both accounts i suppose | 21:26 |
khm | it's the same problem with both companies | 21:26 |
midfavila | i have a pinenote and i've been using it for like a year and a half without much issue | 21:26 |
khm | they just throw shit over the wall and there is no effort put into making anything useful | 21:26 |
midfavila | hmm | 21:27 |
midfavila | i can see that yeah | 21:27 |
mhoye | They offload a _lot_ of responsibility for making commodity hardware usable onto their community | 21:27 |
mhoye | jinx | 21:27 |
khm | zero effort to upstream anything | 21:27 |
khm | just zero | 21:27 |
midfavila | i mean theyre also not software companies afaik | 21:27 |
khm | source code provided as tarballs on mega (or tarballs on github if you're lucky) | 21:27 |
midfavila | not to run apologia but theyre upfront about that | 21:27 |
midfavila | oh ew | 21:27 |
midfavila | i didn't know about the mega shit | 21:27 |
khm | in the arm world, you don't get to sell computers without also being a software company | 21:27 |
khm | if they shipped efi maybe | 21:28 |
mhoye | "tarballs on mega" is... a combination of retro and sketchy as hell that does not give me confidence. | 21:28 |
khm | but no, it's all bespoke hacked-up shit, no way to run a mainline kernel | 21:28 |
khm | anyay, I also use whatsisname's pine note debian distro | 21:28 |
khm | and it mostly works | 21:28 |
midfavila | oh yeah? is that usable now? | 21:28 |
khm | but what happens if I drop the damn thing? can't possibly replace it | 21:28 |
midfavila | i'm still stuck on the janky factory image | 21:28 |
khm | because they only exist since pine64 bought some overstick product down the street | 21:29 |
midfavila | where'd you hear that? | 21:29 |
midfavila | afaik they bought the chassis of the bigme but otherwise it's in house | 21:29 |
khm | nothing at pine64 is in house | 21:29 |
midfavila | oh? | 21:29 |
mhoye | The pine folks are integrators, not inventors. | 21:30 |
mhoye | They mostly buy existing parts off the shelf and glue them together with tape and software. Sometimes good things come of that? | 21:31 |
mhoye | Like, I've got a pinecil soldering iron and it's good. The pine laptops are... not good. | 21:31 |
khm | not good to the degree that one by one distros are dropping support for them | 21:32 |
khm | oh and I need to sell this pinephone and its keyboard too | 21:32 |
midfavila | i'm intrigued. is it the usual issues or do the pinebooks have unique issues of their own? | 21:33 |
khm | I should just make one huge listing called "mobile devices: promises abandoned" | 21:33 |
mhoye | I still have an iPod Touch on my desk, one of the weird now-ancient 4th-gen models without the rear camera. | 21:33 |
mhoye | And even today, it is _so ridiculously tiny_ but still has this amazing responsive display and interface. | 21:34 |
mhoye | It still feels like a little postcard from the future. I wish somebody pine64-like would be able to build something like that, but.... | 21:35 |
mhoye | it won't be the pine people. | 21:35 |
khm | same era as the nokia n9, which remains the last smartphone I liked | 21:37 |
grimmware | HTC Dream was my first and last smartphone love | 21:37 |
midfavila | i think the only smartphone i've ever explicitly wanted to use was my blackberry passport | 21:40 |
midfavila | amazing device | 21:40 |
midfavila | i wish it had a full keyboard instead of the mixed physical-virtual and the traditional bb trackball but aside from that, and the usual problem with phones being fused together, excellent design | 21:41 |
midfavila | used it up until earlier this year when it finally crapped out hardware-wise | 21:41 |
midfavila | then i got my first android since like 2013 and ive hated every minute of it lmao | 21:41 |
midfavila | useless piece of junk | 21:41 |
khm | the passport was ok. I didn't like how much they outsourced to the android subsystem | 21:43 |
midfavila | yeah that was kinda weird | 21:43 |
midfavila | ngl though i just used it as a portable terminal | 21:43 |
midfavila | cross compiled gnu's userspace for it too | 21:43 |
midfavila | used a bb playbook with a keeb and the same setup as a laptop in high school | 21:43 |
midfavila | like ten years after it was out of service but still | 21:44 |
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minute | ^alex: hmm, i thought the keyboard firmware already supported double-tap-reset | 21:47 |
^alex | it doesn't seem to for me | 21:55 |
^alex | maybe we're not fast enough | 21:56 |
^alex | it doesn't look like `pico_bootsel_via_double_reset` is linked in at first glance | 22:01 |
^alex | yep, it wasn't linked in, now that it's linked in, it supports the doubletap | 22:04 |
^alex | https://source.mnt.re/reform/pocket-reform/-/merge_requests/5 the proverbial "various fixes and improvements" | 22:09 |
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minute | ^alex: cool, thank you! | 22:44 |
minute | josch: rk3588 needs 2 files written to sd card to different locations, miniloader and uboot https://gitlab.collabora.com/hardware-enablement/rockchip-3588/notes-for-rockchip-3588/-/blob/main/upstream_uboot.md#writing-binaries-to-sd-card-for-booting-from-sd-card | 22:54 |
josch | oh, so the first 8 MB remain empty | 22:56 |
josch | or is idbloader.img really large? | 22:56 |
minute | i don't think it's large | 22:57 |
josch | we could just bundle-up u-boot together with the other bits that need to go in front of it into a single file as we already do it for a311d | 22:57 |
josch | then it'd be a single blob written at an offeset of 32768, starting with idbloader.img and followed by u-boot 8 MB later | 22:58 |
josch | though we will have to adjust reform-system-image because right now, the first partition for /boot starts at 4 MB | 22:58 |
minute | josch: ah | 22:59 |
minute | ok, still need to understand "boot_merger" https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-rk3588-uboot/-/jobs/5062#L2068 | 23:00 |
minute | ah i made a mistake | 23:01 |
josch | wrestling successful? :) | 23:41 |
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