2024-07-24.log

+ robin (~robin@user/terpri)00:36
minutegrimmware: cool!01:15
minuteinteresting https://github.com/Troels51/dtui01:15
- digitalrayne (QUIT: Quit: じゃまたね) (~digitalra@vps-446f4f39.vps.ovh.ca)01:35
+ digitalrayne (~digitalra@vps-446f4f39.vps.ovh.ca)01:37
dozensinteresting01:45
+ ^alex (~alex@user/alex/x-9816677)01:54
^alexawooo :) we just got our Pocket Reform01:54
- mtm (QUIT: Ping timeout: 272 seconds) (~textual@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)02:04
^alexit seems to be kinda fickle about charging with the cables we have on hand :/02:04
+ mtm (~textual@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)02:06
kop316^alex: there's a system controller update that may help02:09
^alexyep, we're cloning and building the latest system controller firmware presently :)02:15
^alexhas anyone been so adventurous as to try FreeBSD?02:16
+ switchy (~switchy@mechboards/switchy)03:04
- nsc (QUIT: Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (~nicolas@64-97-142-46.pool.kielnet.net)03:47
- bluerise (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~bluerise@pc19f8d58.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)03:47
+ bluerise (~bluerise@p5b0ac923.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)03:48
+ nsc (~nicolas@68-98-142-46.pool.kielnet.net)03:48
swivelminute: do you suppose modprobe -r ath9k and modprobe -r ath9k_hw is sufficient?  i did that before leaving the office today, didn't have time to physically pull the wifi card tho04:23
- sevan (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~sevan@user/venture37)04:24
+ sevan (~sevan@2001:470:1f1d:1d6:5a55:caff:fe24:ed4)04:45
- bkeys (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~Thunderbi@45.134.140.153)05:04
^alexupdated the system controller firmware and it's still being funky about charging05:37
^alexit accepts high current for a short time and then goes to 0.1a05:40
- colinsane (QUIT: Quit: bye) (~colinunin@97-113-150-69.tukw.qwest.net)06:23
+ colinsane (~colinunin@97-113-150-69.tukw.qwest.net)06:26
switchywhat is the expected range of battery voltages?07:32
joschswitchy: "The Reform will accept DC power between 9 and 32 volts into its barrel" -- source: https://mntre.com/reform2/handbook/advanced.html#electronics-repair07:49
joschoh wait, battery voltage07:49
joschswitchy: only lifepo4 chemistry is allowed07:49
chartreuseYou could possibly mod it for other chemistries by changing some current and voltage setting resistors and modifying the LPC to account for it, but that's not a simple matter08:01
chartreuseAnd if you have the protected battery boards those are also set for lifepo408:02
joschchartreuse: the big reform motherboard absolutely needs more variable resistors you can adjust with a tiny screwdriver, don't you think? ;)08:02
chartreuselifepo4 will have a voltage of 3.65 at 100% and around 2.5v at 0%08:03
chartreuseHeh, as long as they have a safe max limit so bumping stuff doesn't mess things up08:03
chartreuseCould add a variable resistor to the one pin on the charging chip to add a max charging current fairly easilly though08:03
chartreuseI guess with protective battery boards more control could be fine, though I still lack them XD08:04
josch[insert i like to live dangerously meme]08:05
joschi never had a problem with the unprotected boards (my cells all survived) but i also never had my reform in a drawer to allow for deep discharge08:06
chartreuseYeah I killed the batts once when it was fully off but was left for a few months unplugged08:06
chartreuseReplaced the two shot ones, but really should have gotten some more as one is questionable and dies before the rest08:07
chartreuseWhichever cell corresponds to the bottom left in the battery display currently08:07
chartreuseStill lasts decently but would last a fair bit longer if I find another JGNE 1800 cell to replace that08:07
joschchartreuse: mapping of the cells: https://mntre.com/reform2/handbook/input.html#oled-menu08:12
joschchartreuse: but you do not have the protected boards, so it's the other way round08:14
joschchartreuse: for you, it should be like this: https://community.mnt.re/t/wrong-battery-mapping-on-the-handbook/1073/308:14
joschminute: somehow i'm not able to edit some of my posts on community.mnt.re -- for some it works fine but for others the edit button is just not there. Do you know what the problem could be?08:16
minute^alex: but the cells are not near their top voltage yet?09:52
grimmwareJust to check, it's currently "safe" to do an apt upgrade on the pocket, right?11:05
grimmwareI love how easy it is to use this thing wedged between my knees whilst sitting on a step and waiting for a train11:07
grimmwareAnyone got a suggestion for using Signal? Looks like they don't build signal-desktop for arm64 (still).11:34
minutegrimmware: yes, it is safe12:32
minutegrimmware: i use this, looks OK https://github.com/dennisameling/Signal-Desktop/releases12:34
grimmwareminute: nice, thank you!13:05
grimmwareuuuugh I remember this problem of the firefox multi-account containers extension dialog not rendering properly on a small screen and I can't remember what I did about it13:12
grimmwarehas anyone benchmarked io on the emmc against the nvme?13:16
grimmwaregod damn I am supposed to be working but this computer is just SO NICE TO FIDDLE WITH13:23
- mtm (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~textual@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)14:02
+ jacobk (~quassel@2601:380:837f:3520:1113:1c75:8d3b:2220)14:03
+ mtm (~textual@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)14:05
+ inhji1 (~inhji@2a01:4f8:1c0c:42e4::1)14:10
+ bkeys (~Thunderbi@45.134.140.153)14:11
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+ V (~v@ircpuzzles/2022/april/winner/V)14:13
+ sterni (~quassel@user/sterni)14:14
grimmwarehmm, I appear to be getting weird artefacts onscreen like they've burned in after showing for a long time but it'll just be things that are in heavy black and white and after showing on a previous screen for a minute or so14:36
- jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 276 seconds) (~quassel@2601:380:837f:3520:1113:1c75:8d3b:2220)14:45
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- lexik (QUIT: Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) (~lexik@93.185.97.218)15:16
+ lexik (~lexik@93.185.97.218)15:18
+ cwebber (~Christine@user/cwebber)15:29
minutegrimmware: yeah that display gets some ghosting16:21
grimmwareack, as long as it's nothing I should be worrying about16:48
minutegrimmware: no, the ghosting will go away... probably we should bring back xscreensaver :D16:58
mhoyegrimmware: you can take libreoffice, make a slideshow that's six fullscreen slides - red, green, blue, black, white, black - and run it with 10sec/slide autoscroll/repeat for a while.17:17
mhoyeworks a treat to fix lcd ghosting in 20-30 minutes.17:20
^alexminute, turns out we reflashed with trunk, not your branch, going to retry with your branch17:21
mhoyeAnyone have any experince with menus in non-gnome apps showing up as black rectangles? I'm so far unable to get openscad or freecad working.17:21
mhoyethough I suppose that if I stopped dumping stderr directly into null I'd learn something.17:22
minutemhoye: you already have QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb, yeah?17:27
^alexok so, the best luck we've had power wise is using the 20w port on a belkin adapter using a thunderbolt cable, which charges at around 1 amp for 10 seconds, drops to 0 for a moment, then goes back to 1 amp17:27
^alexbut now it appears to be charging instead of holding steady at the same voltage17:28
^alexalso: if we wanted to factory-reset to the latest system image, we could just `dd` that onto the `mmcblk` device while booted from SD, right?17:32
+ vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50)17:33
grimmwaremhoye: awesome, thanks for the share <317:36
minute^alex: that should work, although bmaptool copy can do it a bit faster18:40
minute^alex: there restore process is documented on community.mnt.re18:40
chartreusejosch: Ah yep, and makese sense that corresponds to a cell I have a ? sharpied on from when I replaced 2 of them. 18:47
+ gustav28 (~gustav@c-5234524e.019-141-67626730.bbcust.telenor.se)19:18
^alexthinking about ways to get the 2 system UARTs out to a connector on the side panel >.>19:35
^alexso we don't have to run it with the top cover off while debugging the system controller19:36
dozensseeing people on mastodon getting their pockets and feeling anxious for mine19:40
minutewe're currently finishing the last batch of crowdfunded hypers, should go out next week. then we'll make the last 68 crowdfunded non-hypers. 19:43
minutethen we'll proceed with the ones that are presold by crowd supply after the crowdfunding ended19:43
dozens\o/19:48
chartreuse^alex: Can just make a hole and have them come out to the side as female pin headers perhaps using standard ftdi ordering. Or I think I've seen someone that put a FTDI or similar ttl serial to usb port on the side for hooking up the console easilly20:57
^alexyeah, the pin-header thing on the headphone/standby side is probably what we're gonna do :)20:58
chartreuseA 2x6 female header would let you just plug in a standard ftdi type module for either port and not be too bulky, though could also just have like a 2x3 minimal one for the two ports21:00
chartreuseBetter than leaving the bottom cover open or running the cables below the keyboard21:00
^alexmostly our issue is gonna be with mounting it cleanly21:01
chartreuseMaybe some kind of panel mount mini-din connector could fit21:03
^alexuntil then we can run it with the cover off and our Bus Pirate clipped to the uart :)21:03
chartreuseCould also remove one of the side covers and run some dupont leads out the side as a temp too21:04
^alexoooh we could panel-mount a pair of TRS jacks21:05
chartreuseIf you have a trackball reform you could also worm in out one of the sides near the keycaps too, though that's more in the way than removing a side cover21:05
chartreuseThat'd work21:05
^alexwe've got the Pocket21:05
chartreuseAh21:05
chartreuseI was just thinking of the fullsized since it has much more space to route stuff out21:05
^alexnah we gotta be difficult ;)21:06
- vagrantc (QUIT: Quit: leaving) (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50)21:08
chartreuseWould look a little weird but could make a custom PCB for the lid cover and add some surface mount jacks of some kind to that and route the uarts up to the screen21:10
chartreuseThough that'd be more if you're constantly hacking on it21:10
^alexthe side-port TRS is probably gonna be our best bet21:23
^alexthough that might affect the radiation pattern of the antenna? :)21:25
mhoyeso21:25
mhoyeI've got a usb to serial adapter sitting just under my sdcard reader21:26
mhoyesparkfun thing, works grea21:26
mhoyegreat21:27
^alexyeah, we've got USB UARTs coming out our ears21:28
mhoye... and milling out side panels to add antennas is pretty easy, I've done that too.21:33
^alexyeah we're just being weird about how new metal near the existing antenna will affect things21:36
mhoyeI'm curious21:37
mhoyeI mean. I'd love a way to add a bus pirate to the inside of this thing but there's not room.21:37
^alexyeah the bus pirate was gonna be our interim solution until we got the TRS jacks wired in21:39
chartreuseMaybe if you stripped the headers off21:39
chartreuseThat's most of the height of a bus pirate21:39
chartreuseThere's probably room somewhere21:40
+ reform30426 (~nano@c-73-35-191-67.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)21:57
- reform30426 (QUIT: Client Quit) (~nano@c-73-35-191-67.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)22:02
- gustav28 (QUIT: Quit: Quit) (~gustav@c-5234524e.019-141-67626730.bbcust.telenor.se)22:15
+ gustav28 (~gustav@c-5234524e.019-141-67626730.bbcust.telenor.se)22:44

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