| chartreuse | I also found turning the DAC Deemphasis on help a little too to take off the harsh of the highs. Especially since the volume can be a bit louder now to make up for losing some. | 00:05 |
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| chartreuse | Though need to find a way to toggle it with the headphones, since it makes them sound worse | 00:05 |
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| chartreuse | Unrelated, does the stock keyboard firmware update the battery status page if left open, or am I still running one of my custom forks. I should push that change if not. | 00:27 |
| chartreuse | Wasn't there also a RP2040 version of the keyboard before the v3 now? Or was that just the trackball | 00:27 |
| chartreuse | Kinda tempted to mess with the controller there again | 00:28 |
| minute | chartreuse: the current stock fw updates the battery page. | 01:13 |
| minute | chartreuse: the rp2040 version of the kbd wasn't finished, but found its way into pocket reform, and into the reform trackball | 01:14 |
| minute | chartreuse: but i'm gonna work on a rp2040 version of the reform keyboard (for the next) with rgb backlight etc | 01:14 |
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| chartreuse | Ah okay, is the v3 keyboard using the same firmware with just a different build flag for the layout changes or such? | 02:13 |
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| photomattmills | having an issue hooking up to serial on the reform mini. The PCB/schematic seems to have one pinout and the handbook has another, but I can't get either to work | 05:52 |
| photomattmills | anybody know which is correct? | 05:53 |
| josch | chartreuse: yes, same firmware but compiled with -DKBD_VARIANT_3 instead of -DKBD_VARIANT_2 | 05:58 |
| josch | photomattmills: what usb uart adapter are you using? | 05:59 |
| photomattmills | sparkfun ftdi basic | 06:02 |
| photomattmills | I'm using jumpers to the pins on the pocket | 06:02 |
| chartreuse | Kinda an odd request, but a feature that could be a neat addition to a Next motherboard would be using some of the extra gpio pins from the CPU socket and interfacing to a micro like a RP2040 for just general purpose hacking an peripheral interfacing, with something like a 0.1" pin header for breakout from it. Kinda like how there's currently a breakout of the LPCs extra GPIOs to the "hack the | 06:19 |
| chartreuse | planet" connector. But without the risk of programming the LPC which controlls battery charging | 06:19 |
| chartreuse | Or at very least break out some of the non-connected pins that map to GPIOs or such to pads so that peripherals can be hacked on rather than soldering to the connectors pins directly | 06:19 |
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| photomattmills | in the manual, pin one is UART2_TX, on the board and schematic (and in pcbnew) it's gnd. I assume the board is the correct setup? | 06:34 |
| chartreuse | I don't have a pocket, but if you have a multimeter you can check which pin is ground and then work from there, the schematic is likely correct as it's from the sources used to build the boards | 06:37 |
| photomattmills | yeah, I think this uart adapter might be toast, I'm not getting anything. although it shows up in /dev and tio connects to it | 06:41 |
| photomattmills | ok, tried another adapter in both the board pinouts and the manual ones, still nothing. | 07:08 |
| photomattmills | 115200 baud, right? | 07:08 |
| photomattmills | checked with multimeter, pin 1 is gnd for sure. | 07:19 |
| photomattmills | ok, verified both serial adapters are working by hooking them together and opening both in different terminals, they're talking to each other fine. hrm. | 07:29 |
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| violet | having a heat wave over here at the moment and once again appreciating the low heat of an arm laptop <3 | 09:42 |
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| henesy | any ideas why a mnt reform 2 might not be charging at all? runs fine off of direct power, but doesnt put anything in/retrieve from the batteries, the little cable connector is plugged in | 09:55 |
| henesy | i sent an email to reform support 2-3 weeks ago and havent heard anything | 09:55 |
| henesy | just started doing this without any notable change or update, so i'm a little baffled | 09:55 |
| henesy | i've reseated the battery plug connector thing a few times and no dice | 09:55 |
| minute | henesy: sorry to hear! what kind of voltages do the batteries have in the oled battery status page? | 09:59 |
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| minute | heh, i have u-boot console and usb keyboard on imx8mplus... but only in reform next ^^ because i'm using HDMI->eDP via the motherboard | 18:42 |
| josch | the reform next motherboard comes with an integrated HDMI->eDP converter? o0 | 19:18 |
| midfavila | need a reform prior that's twice as heavy and has half as many features | 19:18 |
| josch | like, in preperation of all the other boards which will come with hdmi support but without mipi dsi or dp? | 19:18 |
| josch | midfavila: nah, there will not be many features that the reform next has over the original reform. :) | 19:19 |
| midfavila | :p | 19:22 |
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| henesy | minute: https://imgur.com/a/BuKGSn6 | 20:19 |
| henesy | here's the LED statuses | 20:19 |
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| minute | henesy: oh, it says cells missing: 6, i.e. something is wrong with 6 cells at least | 21:19 |
| minute | henesy: and actually all of the cells show as 5.3V which means that they're not there/faulty | 21:19 |
| minute | henesy: are these protected battery boards? | 21:20 |
| minute | josch: no not integrated. but the hdmi connector on the motherboard is exactly the same spec as the one on rcm4 and rcore. so you can route the module's regular HDMI to the internal display if you want | 21:22 |
| josch | ah funky :D | 21:26 |
| josch | midfavila: for me the big reform has the advantage of more volume for hacks as well as the trackball. The reform next, for me, has the advantage of (potentially) multi-chemistry charging (allowing li-ion cells) as well as more flexible ports on the sides (but i do not know enough to make use of this myself). usb-c charging is something i already do with the big reform -- so i think "half as many | 21:30 |
| josch | features" are a bit of an exaggeration :) | 21:30 |
| minute | hello from reform next! | 21:37 |
| vkoskiv | Hello! | 21:37 |
| minute | looks like this at the moment https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/112752552429434544 | 21:37 |
| mtm | neat! | 21:38 |
| mtm | I'm excited about the server version (I'll have a spare original SoM once my rk3588 arrives, would be perfect for a small server) | 21:40 |
| minute | nice! | 21:40 |
| mtm | will Reform Server (place holder, I'm sure you'll come up with a better name) be available without a SoM? | 21:41 |
| minute | mtm: yep! | 21:41 |
| mtm | sweet! | 21:41 |
| minute | i think one package would be just the case, and another with motherboard, and another with motherboard + module | 21:42 |
| minute | but also, i plan that we have additional "storeys" on top for mounting battery boards or a pcie card | 21:42 |
| mtm | btw, I did manage to get a scope on pin 29 on the RP2040 in my Pocket: pressing a key on row 6 (mouse keys) does not take the line to ground, but rather about half-way there (still see the pulse train but at half voltage). That would explain why that row isn't working but I haven't looked into why its behaving that way | 21:46 |
| mtm | ah, so some sort of vertical connector to support the "stories" | 21:48 |
| gsora | hi reform next!! | 22:07 |
| gsora | did you manage to troubleshoot that pcie issue? | 22:07 |
| midfavila | josch i was mostly being silly :p | 22:08 |
| josch | midfavila: :D | 22:09 |
| midfavila | i've actually considered maybe trying to make a larger version of the standard reform, myself | 22:09 |
| josch | larger than the reform? | 22:09 |
| midfavila | i saw someone on the clockworkpi forms managed to cram two extra sets of 18650s in their uconsole and that kinda made me want to take a stab at adding more batteries to the reform | 22:09 |
| midfavila | yeah | 22:10 |
| midfavila | i used to haul around an IBM A31p a few years ago when i was in high school so | 22:10 |
| midfavila | :p | 22:10 |
| midfavila | i'm used to carrying around a 12lb laptop | 22:10 |
| midfavila | helps squeeze in some gains when i can't get into the gym ig idk | 22:10 |
| midfavila | seeing if i could cram in some stuff for old SATA peripherals would be nice too but my hardware skills are like | 22:11 |
| midfavila | almost nonexistent | 22:11 |
| midfavila | one time i soldered an SD card slot on a WRT54gs and then i made a cantenna and that's about it lmao | 22:12 |
| josch | minute: huh... the rounded corners of the reform next remind me of the rounded corners of the motherboard 2.5 standalone case -- coincidence? | 22:14 |
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| josch | minute: did you put the "hacky hook" from https://community.mnt.re/t/wifi-gone-after-reboot/2232/3 somewhere? I was looking for it in reform-tools | 22:19 |
| Manis | minute: really cool to see ongoing work on the next. Looking very much forward to it! | 22:20 |
| minute | Manis: thanks! | 22:22 |
| minute | gsora: no, for pcie issue i'm gonna make another spin with more attention paid to SI, esp intra diff pair matching | 22:22 |
| gsora | minute: i see! well it’s still great to see next alive and irc’ing, hopefully you’ll be able to find the issue | 22:28 |
| chartreuse | josch: rounded corners so your palms don't get stabbed by the sharp corners of the normal reform :P | 22:51 |
| chartreuse | With the motherboard right under the palm rest port, is the reform next only going to have touchpad options? Or is it using the much smaller trackball from the pocket? | 22:52 |
| minute | chartreuse: so far only touchpad, but one could probably make a keyboard that has the tiny trackball in place of the middle space key | 22:58 |
| chartreuse | Related to the trackball, learned about ZrO2 bearings which some people use to upgrade even the ruby bearings in commerical trackballs, so got some of those on the way from aliexpress in 2.5mm size, will have to see how they compare to the 2.5mm steel ones | 23:11 |
| chartreuse | Could even get a 25mm one, but that'd be expensive and not sure how well it'd even work as the main ball. | 23:16 |
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