| josch | thank you, mail sent :) | 00:19 |
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| josch | lets see if we can improve the status quo maybe | 00:19 |
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| mtm | got my Pocket today, huzzah! However, having two issues: none of the mouse buttons seem to work (all other keys are fine and the trackball tracks). The other issue is less of a problem but annoying none the less: after upgrading to 6.9.7 kernel Bluetooth stopped working. It's late for me here, so I'll try to debug these issues tomorrow | 05:44 |
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| josch | minute: wow, Dirk Schulte is fast! | 08:21 |
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| gsora | good morning folks | 10:41 |
| gsora | anybody knows about documentation to implement a verified boot-style flow for the rk3588? | 10:42 |
| gsora | e.g. for some imx the tool used in https://github.com/usbarmory/usbarmory/wiki/Secure-boot-(Mk-II) should work | 10:47 |
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| gsora | uh somebody rolled their own solution for rk secure boot: https://github.com/DualTachyon/rk3588-secure-boot | 11:17 |
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| mtm | The screen on the Pocket is amazing, wasn't expecting that! I am having an issue though: from the very first power up the mouse keys have not worked. All other keys are fine and the trackball tracks. Had to plug in an external mouse to interact with the setup wizard. Ideas? | 15:13 |
| josch | minute: ^ | 15:14 |
| mtm | 'wev' is also silent when they are pressed | 15:17 |
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| mtm | one other thing: after getting things initially setup I did an update/upgrade which pulled in linux 6.9.7. After rebboting I lost Bluetooth. dmesg had this to say: "Bluetooth: hci0: Frame reassembly failed (-84)" | 15:39 |
| mtm | "Bluetooth: hci0: QCA Failed to request file: qca/rampatch_00230302.bin (-2)" | 15:41 |
| josch | mtm: that file should be part of the firmware-atheros package -- is that one installed? | 15:42 |
| mtm | guess I'll switch back to the older kernel for now. What's the cleanest way to do that? | 15:43 |
| mtm | checking... | 15:43 |
| mtm | it was not. installing... | 15:44 |
| mtm | rebooting... | 15:44 |
| mtm | slight improvement, still no bluetooth and still getting "Bluetooth: hci0: Frame | 15:47 |
| mtm | reassembly failed (-84)" but the other error went away | 15:47 |
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| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@45.134.140.153) | 16:48 | |
| bkeys | Is there an estimated ETA for the RK3588 to begin shipping? | 16:48 |
| josch | bkeys: seems there are problems with pci: https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/112712024484174267 | 16:50 |
| bkeys | It's an upgrade I'm really excited for, unfortunately I lost my job a couple months ago so who knows when I'll be able to place an order for one | 16:50 |
| bkeys | If it works out well I plan on ditching having a desktop and use the Reform as my main computer | 16:51 |
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| gsora | josch: that's for reform next though? hopefully standard reform is unaffected | 17:02 |
| josch | gsora: but the rcore module is supposed to work in the reform next as well -- does it make sense for a company as small as MNT to produce these boards now which will not function 100% in the reform next? | 17:04 |
| gsora | for sure! I wasn't implying that's a good strategy | 17:05 |
| gsora | i thought there were similar problems on full reform as well | 17:06 |
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| amospalla | josch: got usbc-usba cables, and I can confirm the image on https://reform.debian.net/images/ does not boot using a usb pendrive. | 17:32 |
| josch | amospalla: do you see anything on serial which might indicate what is going on? | 17:33 |
| josch | amospalla: you are on a pocket, right? | 17:33 |
| amospalla | it boots the internal emmc stock debian | 17:33 |
| josch | oh | 17:33 |
| amospalla | I am on pocket. | 17:33 |
| josch | okay, then maybe u-boot on the pocket is configured a bit differently | 17:33 |
| josch | amospalla: do you have a micro-sd card at hand that you could copy the image to? | 17:34 |
| amospalla | If there is anything I can do. | 17:34 |
| amospalla | I tried with a microsd, albeit a bit slow, but it didn't work either. | 17:34 |
| josch | amospalla: still booted into your emmc installation instead? | 17:34 |
| amospalla | I'm trying to boot againt it right now. | 17:35 |
| amospalla | Yesterday nothing happened, blank screen for minutes. | 17:35 |
| amospalla | But I'll try again. | 17:35 |
| josch | amospalla: do you have a uart adapter to figure out what's going on? | 17:36 |
| josch | amospalla: can you confirm that the stock images from source.mnt.re work fine? | 17:36 |
| amospalla | I've not got a uart adapter, but I'll get one, will be of help in the future and things like these. | 17:37 |
| amospalla | what do you mean by images from source.mnt.re? If they boot from usb? | 17:38 |
| amospalla | I received Pocket yesterday and I have not done anything with it besides playing a bit with its stock installed system (user space things). | 17:38 |
| amospalla | josch | 17:38 |
| josch | sorry, it's hard to keep track on who has what device since when XD | 17:39 |
| amospalla | hehe :), anyway not hoping you did either | 17:39 |
| amospalla | I should have bought the uart today with the usb cables. | 17:40 |
| josch | amospalla: so, the images behind https://mnt.re/system-image should work -- maybe we should start from a working setup | 17:40 |
| amospalla | Yes, let's try that first. | 17:40 |
| josch | amospalla: once you found an sd-card and image that works, lets change things | 17:40 |
| amospalla | +1 | 17:41 |
| amospalla | 0 | 17:58 |
| amospalla | ops | 17:59 |
| amospalla | josch: using your image with a microsd something happens, the screen shows nothing but the microsd comes back with writes (given by md5sum). I need to get a uart to usb. | 18:03 |
| amospalla | I'll mount it and see. | 18:03 |
| josch | amospalla: thank you for investigating :) | 18:03 |
| mtm | hmm, possible solder bridge on the rp2040 in my Pocket, but from where it is I would expect that to affect coulumns 3 and 4, not row 6 (mouse buttons) which where I'm having issues: https://git.sr.ht/~mtm/mnt-reform-mods/tree/master/item/images/rp2040-pocket.png | 18:04 |
| amospalla | youre welcome | 18:04 |
| mtm | I may have some time later to put a scope on things (if I can figure out a way to reliably get a probe in there, so tiny!) | 18:05 |
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| Zaba | do you have a microscope? | 18:13 |
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| Zaba | even a cheap stereo microscope is a HUGE enabler for doing things with electronics (along the lines of https://www.amazon.de/SS41-WF20-Professional-Binoculars-Microscope-Magnification/dp/B07G92FG7L/) | 18:16 |
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| amospalla | josch: https://paste.debian.net/1322114/ kernel log from your image. | 18:24 |
| amospalla | I did a chroot, but apt-get update (trying to install openssh-server) complains with https://paste.debian.net/1322115/, do you have any hint about that? I don't know where to start debugging this apt thing. | 18:26 |
| amospalla | Also learnt today, pocket does not boot from usb, only from sdcard (official image doesn't boot either, and documentation mentions sdcard and does not mention usb) | 18:27 |
| amospalla | apt-key list shows debian keys, and ends with the line "Illegal instruction" | 18:30 |
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| amospalla | josch: doing a simple `rm /foo` returns "Illegal instruction", maybe I downloaded the wrong image? | 18:33 |
| amospalla | I think it should be correct: reform-system-imx8mp-bpo.img, from https://reform.debian.net/images/ | 18:35 |
| reform12872 | @josch: after updating the repo i reran the script | 18:35 |
| reform12872 | it failed due to out of mem again | 18:35 |
| reform12872 | https://mister-muffin.de/p/c9ld.txt | 18:35 |
| reform12872 | i will try to rerun with -j2 | 18:36 |
| pandora | `the log is just the last 1000 lines | 18:43 |
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| amospalla | josch: started again, your Bookworm is running on the Pocket and I have ssh access (screen still blank). Probably the image got corrupted before due to forced shutdown, the microsd did not tolerate that good enough. | 19:08 |
| minute | mtm: so sorry for that issue! it is a case for warranty repair. are you in europe by any chance? | 19:10 |
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| mtm | nope, florida. Do want to send another keyboard pcb? I can then send back the old one | 19:14 |
| josch | amospalla: you downloaded reform-system-imx8mp-bpo.img? That's the imx8mp image for the big reform not for the pocket reform :D | 19:23 |
| amospalla | josch: oh man, yes X) | 19:25 |
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| amospalla | josch: yeah, your image boots correctly, ethernet and sway work, but wlan is not detected. | 19:38 |
| josch | amospalla: amazing, thank you!! | 19:39 |
| josch | amospalla: yes, wifi is blocked on me backporting the wifi dkms module to bookworm-backports: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/ezurio-qcacld-2.0-dkms | 19:39 |
| amospalla | thank you for all your work, I'll move to debian stable as soon as I can. | 19:39 |
| josch | amospalla: i'd like to post an announcement with a photo of a pocket reform running stable on the fediverse -- do you have an account on some instance? Otherwise I could post your photo and cite you as its author -- if you like of course. :) | 19:41 |
| amospalla | Yeah, I'll mention you and mntre :) | 19:42 |
| josch | awesome, thank you! <3 | 19:42 |
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| josch | amospalla: did you also have the issue that when logging in as root (to create your first user) you only had "dash" as a shell and not bash? | 21:55 |
| minute | mtm: yeah, do you mind sending a quick email about this to support@mntre.com? then we'll track and take care of this | 22:17 |
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| chartreuse | josch: I know you've got the main unstable image and the bookworm image, but is there an inbetween image on debian testing? Feels like it could be nicer for a daily driver since less tends to break on testing | 23:56 |
| josch | chartreuse: there is no image for testing but the script building the image supports testing | 23:58 |
| chartreuse | I guess I could start on bookworm, full-upgrade to testing, and even if the mnt repo doesn't have testing could point that at unstable | 23:58 |
| josch | chartreuse: so if you want an image for testing, you can create one | 23:58 |
| chartreuse | Ah okay | 23:58 |
| chartreuse | I assume the mnt repo itself only has unstable? | 23:59 |
| chartreuse | I guess it's just called reform as the repo name, but probably won't break stuff | 23:59 |
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