2024-06-14.log

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pocketreform2when can we order the pocket reform from the website?00:05
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violetyay the 33pin DSI cable i got works! my reform has a screen again and i am typing to you from it now :)03:52
violeti can try to PR an update to the handbook for that. but mouser did not have any 50mm cables, so i only know the part number of their 100mm 33pin which has a bit of extra slack, unlike the form-fitting 50mm cable i had previously. which i think is probably fine03:53
violetfor me thats good because i wanted a longer cable anyway. trying to get the short one to plug into the CM4 adapter is how i got into this mess in the first place lol03:54
violetnow i also need to go find my soquartz sd card so i can see if that will work with the display. i have no idea what state i even left it in...03:55
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violet--- unrelated - it seems like i can avoid the weird texture issues i have in chrome specifically by disabling gpu compositing. gpu rasterizing is fine, and its actually still there if i have software rasterization but gpu compositing too05:44
violeti need to figure out how to do mesa dev05:44
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joschviolet: nice! :D09:12
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minuteviolet: great news about the cable!11:49
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minutemjw: hey we have your reform on the table. such a nice vintage ^^ we suggest that we put in steel port covers, protected battery boards, new trackball cup as well, what do you think?15:40
minutemjw: sorry i just saw you already ordered exactly these things!15:42
mjwminute, yes, those were the parts I ordered, see ticket #3488 for what I was hoping you could do.15:42
mjwminute, :)15:42
minutemjw: we'd charge 1 work hour at 100EUR for putting everything together incl LS, do you agree? would you also want a 1TB SATA SSD perhaps? or you ok with the 128GB?15:42
mjwminute, yes agreed, thanks. If you have a 1TB SATA SSD that would be appreciated. I could only quickly find a 128GB one (which I believe sent you).15:46
mjwminute, I asked plomlompom to sent me an invoice a couple of times, but it seems he isn't interested getting paid :) Please do poke him to sent one.15:47
plomlompommjw: Can only now write an invoice with minute's decision just written above ^^15:48
mjwok :)15:48
minutemjw: yeah it was waiting for my and greta's ability to take a closer look, very sorry!15:49
minutewe're still in the weeds with pocket reform shipments :315:49
minutebut today is a day of taking-care-of-stuff15:49
mjwSaw the manual and posters! So nice.15:50
mjwStill I am missing my full sized reform, wouldn't trade it for one of those tiny ones :)15:50
minutemjw: :D15:51
plomlompomTime for REFORM MAX15:52
minuteplomlompom: that was a thing15:52
plomlompom10kg, 9cm thick.15:52
minuteplomlompom: REFORM MAX was the high end option in the original crowdfunding15:52
plomlompomminute: But too few nerds cared for it !15:53
plomlompom(I assume.)15:53
minuteplomlompom: not true15:53
minuteplomlompom: it sold well!15:53
minutebut people don't know anymore that it was called REFORM MAX. that's why i'm keeping the oral tradition alive here.15:54
plomlompomminute: Gotta infuse it with some contradictory legends and myths though. Otherwise future company folklorists gonna get bored.15:54
noamWhoa, whoa, "MAX"?15:54
noamah, that was the name for the model with a wifi card / 1TiB NVMe?15:55
mjwMNT Reform Max: the fully-loaded version with 1 TB NVMe SSD and Atheros ath9k compatible Wi-Fi card. On top, you'll get our custom black Piñatex vegan leather sleeve and a signed copy of the handbook.15:56
minuteyes!15:56
mjw^ That is what I got, but I didn't know it was called that way...15:56
minuteit's like the Hyper Pocket Reform15:56
mjwThe crowdsupply site only has a few references to the MAX. But you cannot get it. And I am almost sure it wasn't called MAX when I ordered mine... odd :)15:58
noam...huh. minute: is the original iMX module compatible iwth the Pocket? I remember seeing a compatibility graph but can't find it :/15:59
mjwO, no, I was wrong. It was called the MNT Reform Max. I see the invoice from crowdsupply now.  Actually shipped on Mar 17, 2021 PDT16:01
mjwbut it does look like that shortly after it wasn't possible anymore to buy it as a bundle, you had to get the sleeve, handbook, wifi and ssd card separately16:05
noamalso lmao > i.MX8MPlus modules are sourced from Boundary Devices (assembled in the USA), now part of Laird. < 16:10
noam > now part of Laird, now Ezurio16:10
noamAh,corporations.16:10
jncorporations, truly the dynasties of our time16:12
minutenoam: it is compatible but not tested in a longer time, not sure if the DTB is up-to-date. 16:13
mjwAlso wow, prices, the MAX back then was cheaper than a basic assembled MNT Reform without all those additions...16:13
noamminute: k, thanks :)16:13
minutemjw: how much was it?16:13
noamHow similar are the peripherals? 16:13
minutea lot of our buying prices increased too... inflation16:13
mjw$1500 (which was fully assembled with a 1TB SSD, wifi, sleeve and signed (yes!) handbook)16:14
minutenice16:14
mjwand stickers, don't forget the stickers!16:14
noamI _want_ a pocket reform but I really don't need it and so I keep having to remind myself not to get one :/16:29
minuteRCORE rev 2 pcbs are here16:54
jackhillwoo!17:04
jackhillOK, I probably at risk of being That Person™, but I see that many (but not all) things I ordered directly are now available on crowd supply. Can I ask for an ETA? I may also be interested in adding an RCORE and Camera.17:08
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minutejackhill: order number?17:18
minutewe're going through order backlog at this moment17:18
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jackhillminute: neat: R54805309917:19
minutejackhill: ah yes, sorry for the wait on that. it's first on our list for monday17:20
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jackhillminute: no worries. Anticipating is exiting17:20
noamI'm glad I have time before the rk modules ship :P17:34
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violeti keep going back and forth on whether i want the rk3588 haha. its so tempting, but i keep asking "do i really neeeeed to go that fast"19:25
violetperhaps for rack reform :D19:32
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minuteviolet: of course you need to go that fast!19:44
minute:D19:45
noamI don't :P20:11
noamTBH my dream module could be 10% the perf of the iMX if it meant 10x longer battery life lmao20:12
noamgimme 0.5W of total system consumption lol20:12
minutenoam: the screen backlight will start to become the biggest consumer :D20:30
minutehttps://community.mnt.re now has a dark theme selectable in your profile/preferences20:30
jfredminute: Potential answer there is a transflective LCD panel where you can still see it in daylight with the backlight totally off ;P20:37
jfredThey seem to be making a bit of a comeback these days among niche devices, with the Playdate and the Daylight DC120:40
jfredWell, former's only reflective I guess as it doesn't have a backlight at all20:41
minuteyeah20:43
[tj]noam: how much life do you want?20:58
grimmware[tj]: you sound like a tech CEO tying to justify not giving their employees health insurance21:08
[tj]I don't give my employees health insurance, they pay for it from their taxes (also I'm the employee)21:08
grimmware[tj]: what convinced you to get a pocket in the end?21:08
[tj]financial stability21:09
grimmwareHahah, fair21:09
[tj]leaving a job last year when the crowd funding was happening wasn't the best timing21:09
grimmwareOh yeah legit that shit was stressful and it wasn’t even happening to me21:10
[tj]things seem balanced enough now though, I'll just get to be really jealous while all the backers during the crowdsupply get theirs and I have to wait21:11
[tj]plenty of time to write drivers21:11
grimmwareDid you order the olimex imx8p?21:22
[tj]yeah21:22
[tj]I got distracted building out a better testbench21:23
[tj]I think I should me able to make it available for you if you want to try and plan9 on the imx8mp21:23
grimmwareYeah I mean if nobody’s done it already by the time you’re done with FreeBSD I’m more than happy to totally fail at it21:35
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noamminute: I'll switch to eInk23:25
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minutenoam: aha!23:50

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