2024-05-14.log

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minutehuh, qualcomm posting about mainlining https://www.qualcomm.com/developer/blog/2024/05/upstreaming-linux-kernel-support-for-the-snapdragon-x-elite09:39
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+ mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)11:38
vkoskivLittle bash snippet for quickly fuzzy-searching man pages https://pastebin.com/bgveuJhE11:51
vkoskivfzf is really quite nifty11:51
vkoskivI put this in my random scripts path directory, as `qman`11:52
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mjwminute, yeah, they are taking baby steps, but have also been upstreaming patches to gcc and glibc recently13:52
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minutemjw: now where to get a snapdragon x elite som16:33
mjwI don't know that :) But it seems Microsoft is targeting it for their next surface laptop16:38
mjwmicrosoft also just contributed arm64 support for Cygwin and MinGW to gcc16:40
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AbortRetryFailthey upstream patches but can it hibernate? :)17:15
TwodisbetterI so wish the IMX8 could hibernate. 17:17
mhoyeACTION needs to update some firmware to current.17:27
jfred-linodeall the recent news about qualcomm mainlining has been pretty exciting17:38
jfred-linodethere were a few folks from linaro who gave talks about it at FOSDEM this year17:39
jfred-linodeminute: ooh, I think I'll need to watch one of the talks linked from that page: https://eoss24.sched.com/event/1aBFy/shipping-multiple-devicetrees-how-to-identify-which-dtb-is-for-my-board-elliot-berman-qualcomm17:40
joschtoday i met people who told me that their intel i7 surivives 11 hours with display on and a full day with display off -- if an ARM SoM was similarly low energy, i wouldn't even need suspend :D17:43
jfred-linodeeven in that case, it is nice to not have to plug in every day when that's an option haha17:46
joschof course :)17:47
jfred-linodeapple's ARM laptops are particularly impressive in that regard in my experience (though it's been a bit since I've used one)17:47
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mhoyeApple's power management has been basically perfect forever.17:55
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joschpz18:21
josch 18:21
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minutejosch: question marks?19:08
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+ jacobk (~quassel@47-186-70-49.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net)22:53
joschthis was my reform typing something while it was in my backpack22:55
joschi must've forgotten to lock the screen before packing it XD22:56
joschhal-sensor addon when? ;)22:56
joscheven worse, when i came back my irssi asked me whether i really wanted to paste more than 3 lines or whether i want to cancel that22:56
joschgood my backpack didn't know how to press ctrl+k :D22:57
joschanyways, i had another interesting experience with my reform this afternoon22:57
joschi was walking around for several hours with the reform in my backpack and both times i took it out, my mouse would just not respond at all22:57
joschso i took out the trackball, cleaned it but nothing22:57
joschso i removed the sensor and re-attached its cable -- still no improvement22:58
joschwhat helped was to unplug and re-plug the usb cable of the trackball module while the reform was running22:58
joschbut why?22:58
joschif removing usb power (and resetting the module) did the trick, why does shutting the reform off and turning it on again not do it either?22:58
joschthis hasn't happened before and today it happened three times22:59
joschwas it because i now had the reform in my backpack and it didn't like the heat? cpu sensor showed 55°C only22:59
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