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| ndufresne | In case no one notice, in future (or futuristic?), there is SBC by Radxa announced to host a MediaTek Genio 1200, I have a Chromebook that host a very similar soc, the MT8195, extremely powerful, and they share a lot of HW, meaning path to upstreaming isnt too large | 00:18 |
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| minute | ndufresne: interesting, cpus look almost identical to rk3588 but smaller gpu? | 00:44 |
| minute | ah wrong, mt8195 has a78, rk3588 a76 | 00:48 |
| ndufresne | It on level up, the GPU is older but mc5 instead of 4 | 01:03 |
| ndufresne | Undocumented, but the Chromebook seems to have a boost frequency of 3ghz | 01:03 |
| swivel | minute: when do you expect to have imx8 reforms available again? | 01:04 |
| ndufresne | My impression is that imx8 is completely outperformed by other solutions out there, why do you want this? | 01:05 |
| swivel | my impression is that the imx8 has mature/stable driver support... esp. since it's the same as the librem uses | 01:07 |
| swivel | relatively comprehensive hw enablement with a minimum of binary blobs, unlike the rpi cm4 aiui | 01:07 |
| swivel | my main complaint wrt imx8 is limited ram | 01:08 |
| ndufresne | Fo | 01:10 |
| ndufresne | Sorry, just hit the keyboard by accident | 01:11 |
| ndufresne | The imx8m cpu and GPU are relatively slow, combined with low ram, plus the lack of iommu for the GPU and codecs can lead to fragmentation issues | 01:12 |
| ndufresne | Stability of A311D might not be on par, that I'm pretty sure | 01:13 |
| swivel | my use case doesn't really care all that much about gpu performance, i care more about mostly mainline and lack of proprietary garbage | 01:14 |
| ndufresne | Iirc, only CODECs needs blobs though, it is well supported upstream, and even the AI chip now have an open source stack | 01:14 |
| swivel | it'll mostly be a device for connecting to embedded shit via serial consoles and programming in vim in a tiling wm | 01:15 |
| ndufresne | I see, and stm32mp1 would even be enough | 01:15 |
| ndufresne | (would be good for battery life) | 01:16 |
| swivel | well since im also interested in the librem5 and developing stuff for it, it'd prolly be convenient to have a similar SoC in one of my dev laptops | 01:28 |
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| minute | swivel: we are not planning to bring back imx8m, but it you are serious about wanting to buy a reform with it, please write to support@mntre.com and we'll see what we can do | 01:56 |
| jfred | Has anyone tried running hyprland on an a311d reform? Curious how all the eye candy would perform | 01:58 |
| swivel | minute: will do. I would have bought one earlier in the crowdfunding phase or something, but i haven't been in a financial position to do such things for a while now | 02:03 |
| swivel | but i should be able to start buying such things within a month or so... | 02:04 |
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| josch | swivel: the reform with imx8mq was my only laptop for over a year and i did all my debian-related packaging, maintenance and programming on it plus all the other stuff like web, email, video etc. The imx8mq definitely makes for a usable computer! | 06:43 |
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| josch | sometimes, when rebasing a random patch stack, i wish that the patch hunks had more context than just three lines... | 13:02 |
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| hramrach | is that not configurable? | 15:12 |
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| minute | swivel: sorry, i forgot last night that i think crowd supply still has mnt reform imx8mq stock. | 18:11 |
| minute | swivel: at least the DIY kit that is listed in stock there (the assembled ones have kind of weird dates there) https://www.crowdsupply.com/mnt/reform#products | 18:13 |
| minute | i'm gonna check the stock info csv that i'm getting once in a while | 18:13 |
| minute | bizarrely, the stock data that i have says they have 19 (!) assembled reforms with imx8mq in stock | 18:15 |
| minute | and 14 diy kits | 18:15 |
| swivel | sweet! | 18:19 |
| swivel | minute: so would one i get from crowdsupply have the original style keyboard layout in terms of little space bar keys? I noticed elektron's replacement keyboard had wider space bar caps | 18:23 |
| minute | swivel: i believe they should have the new one by now but i can't say for sure | 18:25 |
| swivel | i see... is it the same situation WRT the battery boards? may be old vs. newer protection ones? | 18:26 |
| minute | i think on the assembled ones there is a greater chance that you'll get the newest HW | 18:29 |
| minute | (the version with trackpad is not actually in stock and never will be though, i wrote them about it now) | 18:29 |
| minute | (that it should actually be removed) | 18:29 |
| swivel | cool, thanks for the transparency / responsiveness on such things... it matters, I look forward to sending some resources your way | 18:33 |
| minute | CS will soon offer the a311d version of reform and also rcm4 upgrades | 18:34 |
| swivel | is it preferable on your end to receive direct orders vs. CS? | 18:34 |
| minute | swivel: at the moment direct orders are preferable ^^ | 18:35 |
| swivel | kk, when I'm ready to spend I'll ping you again to see what's the best route ... I do want an imx8 at least, but could end up ordering several variants, we'll see. I might try convince others at work to leave reforms on their desks as a console they'll be tempted to tinker with | 18:37 |
| swivel | should be able to at least order the imx8 one for me before end of month | 18:41 |
| minute | :D | 18:51 |
| minute | sounds good | 18:51 |
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| josch | hramrach: yes, but it needs to be configured that way from the person who created those patches :) | 21:08 |
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